Late 40s (pre-list)

This provisional list considered the better South American players in each role for 1947-49 period.

Keepers
Roque MASPOLI (Uruguay) - Peñarol
BARBOSA (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Sinforiano GARCÍA (Paraguay) - Cerro Porteño / Flamengo
Julio COZZI (Argentina) - Platense
Luis SUAREZ (Peru) - Municipal
Sergio LIVINGSTONE (Chile) - U.Catolica
Vicente ARRAYA (Bolivia) - Ferroviario
Walter ORMEÑO (Peru) - Universitario
Anibal PAZ (Uruguay) - Nacional
Obdulio DIANO (Argentina) - Boca Jrs

Right Full-Backs
Raúl PINI (Uruguay) - Nacional / Millonarios
Juan Carlos COLMAN (Argentina) - Newell's
Alberto GONZALEZ (Paraguay) - Olimpia
Oscar BASSO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo / Inter Milan
Andres DA SILVA (Peru) - Universitario
AUGUSTO da Costa (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Eliseo MORALES (Peru) - Atletico Chalaco / D.Cali
Jorge "Chompi" HENRIQUES (Ecuador) - Audax / Independiente S.Fe
Higinio GARCIA (Argentina) - Racing

Left Full-Backs
Eusebio TEJERA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Jose MARANTE (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Gerardo ARCE (Peru) - Alianza Lima
JUVENAL Amarijo (Brazil) - Cruzeiro / Flamengo
Manuel MACHUCA (Chile) - Colo Colo
Juan Carlos SOBRERO (Argentina) - Newell's
Agapito PERALES (Peru) - ORO Mexico / Medellin FBC
Jose GARCIA PEREZ (Argentina) - Tigre / Racing
Eduardo "Zurdo" RODRIGUEZ (Argentina) - River

Right Half-back
Schubert GAMBETTA (Uruguay) - Nacional / Cucuta
Lorenzo PACHECO (Peru) - Sport Boys
Norberto YACONO (Argentina) - River Plate
Manuel GAVILAN (Paraguay) - Libertad
Manuel ALVAREZ (Chile) - U.Catolica
Carlos SOSA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
ELI do Amparo (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
RUI Campos (Brazil) - Sao Paulo
Juan CASTILLO (Peru) - Atletico Chalaco / Medellin FBC
Julio Cesar RAMIREZ (Paraguay) - Huracan

Attacking Centrehalf
DANILO Alvim (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Obdulio VARELA (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Carlos BAUER (Brazil) - Sao Paulo
Nestor ROSSI (Argentina) - River Plate
Angel PERUCCA (Argentina) - Newell's / San Lorenzo
Jose OCAMPOS (Paraguay) - Racing / Boca Jrs de Cali
Alejandro GONZALES (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Modesto BRIA (Paraguay) - Flamengo
Carlos TORRES (Peru) - Atletico Chalaco / Universitario
Rufino LECCA (Peru) - Veracruz
Carlos ARCE (Paraguay) - Sportivo Luqueño

Left Half-back
Miguel BUSQUETS (Chile) - U de Chile
Natalio PESCIA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Cornelio HEREDIA (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Ernesto GUTIERREZ (Argentina) - Racing
Victor RODRIGUEZ ANDRADE (Uruguay) - Central Español
Joe CALDERON (Peru) - Sport Boys
BIGODE (Brazil) - Fluminense
NORONHA (Brazil) - Sao Paulo

Right Winger
Mario BOYÉ (Argentina) - Boca Jrs / Genoa
TESOURINHA (Brazil) - Internacional
Gilberto TORRES (Peru) - Universitario
Alcides GHIGGIA (Uruguay) - Sudamerica / Peñarol
Luis Ernesto CASTRO (Uruguay) - Nacional
Santiago VERNAZZA (Argentina) - Platense
Camilo CERVINO (Argentina) - Independiente
Juan Carlos SALVINI (Argentina) - Huracan / Racing
MANECA (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Andres PRIETO (Chile) - U.Catolica

Inside Right
ZIZINHO (Brazil) - Flamengo
Jose Manuel MORENO (Argentina) - River / U.Catolica
Norberto MENDEZ (Argentina) - Huracan / Racing
Adolfo PEDERNERA (Argentina) - Atlanta / Huracan
Guillermo BARBADILLO (Peru) - Sport Boys
Atilio CREMASCHI (Chile) - Union Española
Jose "Loncha" GARCIA (Uruguay) - Defensor
Cesar LOPEZ FRETES (Paraguay) - Olimpia
Julio PEREZ (Uruguay) - Racing Mont. / River Uruguayo
Juan LECCA (Peru) - Atletico Chalaco / Medellin FBC
Vides MOSQUERA (Peru) - Municipal
Grimaldo GONZALES (Peru) - Tampico / Veracruz

Centreforward
Alfredo DI STEFANO (Argentina) - River Plate / Millonarios
Valeriano LOPEZ (Peru) - Sport Boys / D.Cali
HELENO de Freitas (Brazil) - Botafogo / Boca Jrs / Vasco da Gama
Jorge ROBLEDO (Chile) - Barnsley / Newcastle
Rubén BRAVO (Argentina) - Racing Club
Oscar MIGUEZ (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Francisco SOLANO Patiño (Paraguay) - Sol de America / Guarani
FRIAÇA (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Dionisio ARCE (Paraguay) - Sportivo Luqueño
Julio APARICIO (Peru) - Tampico / Moctezuma
Roberto "Tito" DRAGO (Peru) - D.Municipal

Inside Left
Walter GOMEZ (Uruguay) - Nacional
ADEMIR Marques (Brazil) - Fluminense / Vasco da Gama
Rinaldo MARTINO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo / Juventus
JAIR da Rosa Pinto (Brazil) - Flamengo
Angel LABRUNA (Argentina) - River Plate
Carlos GOMEZ SANCHEZ (Peru) - Alianza Lima / Boca Jrs
Juan SCHIAFFINO (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Felix CASTILLO (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Alejandrino GENES (Paraguay) - Nacional Parag. / Boca de Cali
Llamil SIMES (Argentina) - Huracan / Racing Club
Mario FERNANDEZ (Argentina) - Independiente

Left Winger
Felix LOUSTAU (Argentina) - River Plate
Manuel PELEGRINA (Argentina) - Estudiantes LP
Ezra SUED (Argentina) - Racing Club
Bibiano ZAPIRAÍN (Uruguay) - Inter Milan / Nacional
Juan Bautista VILLALBA (Paraguay) - Huracan / Boca de Cali
CHICO Aramburu (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Leongino UNZAIN (Paraguay) - Nacional / Olimpia
Ernesto VIDAL (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Fernando RIERA (Chile) - U.Catolica

 

Mid 40s (pre-list)

This provisional list considered the better South American players in each role for 1943-46 period.

Keepers
Sergio LIVINGSTONE (Chile) - Racing / U.Catolica
Jose SORIANO (Peru) - Banfield / River Plate
Roque MASPOLI (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Claudio VACCA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Anibal PAZ (Uruguay) - Nacional
Teodulo LEGARIO (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Vicente ARRAYA (Bolivia) - Ferroviario / Atlanta
Hector RICARDO (Argentina) - Rosario Central
Gabriel OGANDO (Argentina) - Estudiantes
JURANDIR (Brazil) - Flamengo

Right Full-Backs
Jose SALOMON (Argentina) - Racing
Domingos DA GUIA (Brazil) - Corinthians
Jose MARANTE (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Oscar BASSO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo
Raul PINI (Uruguay) - Nacional
Jose "Gallareta" LUNA (Peru) - Sucre FC
Armando RENGANESCHI (Argentina) - Sao Paulo
Florencio BARRERA (Chile) - Magallanes
Ricardo VAGHI (Argentina) - River Plate
AUGUSTO da Costa (Brazil) - Vasco
Nicolas PALMA (Argentina) - Estudiantes

Left Full-Backs
Eusebio TEJERA (Uruguay) - River Uruguayo / Nacional
Gerardo ARCE (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Rodolfo DE ZORZI (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Maximo GOMEZ (Peru) - Sucre FC
Eduardo RODRIGUEZ (Argentina) - Estudiantes / River
Enrique PERALES (Peru) - Municipal
Agapito PERALES (Peru) - Municipal / A.D.O.
Juan Carlos SOBRERO (Argentina) - Newell's
Andres DA SILVA (Peru) - Sport Boys / Universitario
Luis FERREIRA (Argentina) - River Plate

Right Half-back
Carlos SOSA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Schubert GAMBETTA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Norberto YACONO (Argentina) - River Plate
Francisco LAS HERAS (Chile) - U de Chile / Magallanes
Lorenzo PACHECO (Peru) - Universitario / Sport Boys
BIGUA (Brazil) - Flamengo
Julio Cesar RAMIREZ (Paraguay) - Cerro Porteño
ZEZE Procopio (Brazil) - Palmeiras / Sao Paulo
Manuel ARAGUEZ (Argentina) - Chacarita

Attacking Centrehalf
Angel PERUCCA (Argentina) - Newell's
Obdulio VARELA (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Ernesto LAZZATI (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
DANILO Alvim (Brazil) - America / Vasco
Modesto BRIA (Paraguay) - Flamengo
Rufino LECCA (Peru) - Sport Boys / Veracruz
Miguel ORTEGA (Paraguay) - Ypiranga / Dos Caminos
Leon STREMBEL (Argentina) - Lanus / Racing
RUI Campos (Brazil) - Fluminense / Sao Paulo
Guillermo ANDRADE (Peru) - Municipal / A.D.O.
Alejandro GONZALES (Peru) - Diablos Rojos / Alianza Lima

Left Half-back
Natalio PESCIA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Bartolome COLOMBO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo
Miguel BUSQUETS (Chile) - U de Chile
NORONHA (Brazil) - Sao Paulo
Jose RAMOS (Argentina) - River Plate
Jose BATTAGLIERO (Argentina) - Independiente

Right Winger
Juan Carlos MUÑOZ (Argentina) - River Plate
Mario BOYÉ (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
TESOURINHA (Brazil) - Internacional
CLAUDIO Pinho (Brazil) - Santos / Corinthians
Luis Ernesto CASTRO (Uruguay) - Nacional
LUISINHO Oliveira (Brazil) - Sao Paulo
Leopoldo QUIÑONES (Peru) - Municipal

Inside Right
Jose Manuel MORENO (Argentina) - River Plate
Antonio SASTRE (Argentina) - Sao Paulo
ZIZINHO (Brazil) - Flamengo
Norberto MENDEZ (Argentina) - Huracan
Armando FARRO (Argentina) - Banfield / San Lorenzo
Vicente DE LA MATA (Argentina) - Independiente
Atilio CREMASCHI (Chile) - Union Española
Vides MOSQUERA (Peru) - Municipal
Marcial BARRIOS (Paraguay) - Boca Jrs / Sao Paulo
Sylvio PIRILO (Brazil) - Flamengo

Centreforward
Rene PONTONI (Argentina) - Newell's / San Lorenzo
Adolfo PEDERNERA (Argentina) - River Plate
Lolo FERNANDEZ (Peru) - Universitario
HELENO de Freitas (Brazil) - Botafogo
Jaime SARLANGA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
LEONIDAS (Brazil) - Sao Paulo
Atilio GARCIA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Arsenio ERICO (Paraguay) - Independiente
Roberto "Tito" DRAGO (Peru) - D.Municipal
Leocadio MARIN (Paraguay) - Olimpia
Julio APARICIO (Peru) - Sucre FC

Inside Left
Rinaldo MARTINO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo
Roberto PORTA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Severino VARELA (Uruguay) - Boca Jrs / Peñarol
Angel LABRUNA (Argentina) - River Plate
JAIR da Rosa Pinto (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Jose "Loncha" GARCIA (Uruguay) - Defensor
Caricho GUZMAN (Peru) - Deportivo Municipal
TIM (Brazil) - Nacional SP / Sao Paulo
Carlos GOMEZ SANCHEZ (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Jose PERACIO (Brazil) - Flamengo
Alejandrino GENES (Paraguay) - Nacional

Left Winger
Felix LOUSTAU (Argentina) - River Plate
ADEMIR Marques (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Manuel PELEGRINA (Argentina) - Estudiantes LP
Enrique GARCIA (Argentina) - Racing
Bibiano ZAPIRAÍN (Uruguay) - Nacional
Juan Bautista VILLALBA (Paraguay) - Sportivo Luqueño
Eduardo FERNANDEZ (Peru) - Universitario
Jose BALBUENA (Chile) - U de Chile
CHICO (Brazil) - Vasco da Gama
Leongino UNZAIN (Paraguay) - Nacional

 

Early 40s (pre list)

This provisional list considered the better South American players in each role for 1940-42 period.

Keepers
Sergio LIVINGSTONE (Chile) - U.Catolica
Anibal PAZ (Uruguay) - Nacional
Sebastian GUALCO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo / Ferro
Obdulio DIANO (Argentina) - Colo Colo
Juan HONORES (Peru) - Universitario / Newell's
Fernando BELLO (Argentina) - Independiente
Jose SORIANO (Peru) - Diablos Rojos / Banfield
Juan ESTRADA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
JURANDIR (Brazil) - Ferro / Gimnasia / Flamengo
Roque MASPOLI (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Julio BARRIOS (Uruguay) - Peñarol / River Plate

Right Full-Backs
Jose SALOMON (Argentina) - Racing
Domingos DA GUIA (Brazil) - Flamengo
Juan QUISPE (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Jose MARANTE (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Hector ROMERO (Uruguay) - Nacional
Enrique PERALES (Peru) - Municipal
Armando RENGANESCHI (Argentina) - Fluminense
Ricardo VAGHI (Argentina) - River Plate

Left Full-Backs
Jorge ALBERTI (Argentina) - Huracan
Agenor MUÑIZ (Uruguay) - Wanderers / Peñarol
Avelino CADILLA (Uruguay) - River uruguayo / River Plate
Sabino COLETTA (Argentina) - Independiente
Gerardo ARCE (Peru) - Alianza Lima
Arthur MACHADO (Brazil) - Fluminense
Humberto ROA (Chile) - Audax Italiano

Right Half-back
Carlos SOSA (Argentina) - Atlanta / Boca Jrs
Titina CASTILLO (Peru) - Lanus / Magallanes
Erebo ZUNINO (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Gregorio ESPERON (Argentina) - Platense
Roberto SBARRA (Argentina) - Estudiantes / Huracan
Oscar MONTAÑEZ (Argentina) - Gimnasia
ZEZE Procopio (Brazil) - Botafogo
Norberto YACONO (Argentina) - River Plate
BIGUA (Brazil) - Flamengo
Teobaldo GUZMAN (Peru) - Municipal / Banfield

Centrehalf
Ernesto LAZZATI (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Eugenio GALVALISI (Uruguay) - Nacional
Angel PERUCCA (Argentina) - Newell's
Obdulio VARELA (Uruguay) - Wanderers
Pablo PASACHE (Peru) - Colo Colo / Magallanes
Oswaldo BRANDAO (Brazil) - Palestra Italia
Alejandro GONZALES (Peru) - S.Tabaco / Diablos Rojos
Jose OCAMPOS (Paraguay) - Nacional
Guillermo ANDRADE (Peru) - Municipal
Miguel ORTEGA (Paraguay) - Ypiranga
Bruno RODOLFI (Argentina) - River Plate

Left Half-back
Schubert GAMBETTA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Rodolfo COLOMBO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo
Celestino MARTINEZ (Argentina) - Independiente
Jose RAMOS (Argentina) - River Plate
AFONSINHO (Brazil) - Fluminense
Alfredo NORONHA (Brazil) - Gremio / Sao Paulo
Aaron WERGIFKER (Argentina) - River / Platense
Maximo LOBATON (Peru) - Alianza Lima / Magallanes

Right Winger
Luis Ernesto CASTRO (Uruguay) - Nacional
Enrique SORREL (Chile) - Colo Colo
Pedro AMORIM (Brazil) - Fluminense
Alberto BELEN (Argentina) - Newell's / Platense
Juan Carlos MUÑOZ (Argentina) - River Plate
Leopoldo QUIÑONES (Peru) - Municipal
Juan Jose MARIL (Argentina) - Independiente

Inside Right
Jose Manuel MORENO (Argentina) - River Plate
Anibal CIOCCA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Vicente DE LA MATA (Argentina) - Independiente
Adelfo MAGALLANES (Peru) - Alianza Lima
ZIZINHO (Brazil) - Flamengo
Oscar CHIRIMINI (Uruguay) - River uruguayo
ROMEU Pellicciari (Brazil) - Corinthians / Fluminense
Armando FARRO (Argentina) - Banfield
Cesar SOCARRAZ (Peru) - Colo Colo
Jose CANTELLI (Argentina) - Newell's

Centreforward
Atilio GARCIA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Arsenio ERICO (Paraguay) - Independiente
LEONIDAS (Brazil) - Flamengo
Herminio MASANTONIO (Argentina) - Huracan
Adolfo PEDERNERA (Argentina) - River Plate
Raul TORO (Chile) - Santiago Morning
Rene PONTONI (Argentina) - Newell's
Jaime SARLANGA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Lolo FERNANDEZ (Peru) - Universitario
Juan MARVEZZI (Argentina) - Tigre
Sylvio PIRILO (Brazil) - Peñarol / Flamengo

Inside Left
Roberto PORTA (Uruguay) - Nacional
Antonio SASTRE (Argentina) - Independiente / Sao Paulo
Severino VARELA (Uruguay) - Peñarol
Rinaldo MARTINO (Argentina) - San Lorenzo
TIM (Brazil) - Fluminense
Delfin BENITEZ CACERES (Paraguay) - Racing / Ferro
Luis "Caricho" GUZMAN (Peru) - Municipal
Emilio BALDONEDO (Argentina) - Huracan
Angel LABRUNA (Argentina) - River Plate
Bernardo GANDULLA (Argentina) - Boca Jrs
Jose PERACIO (Brazil) - Botafogo / Flamengo

Left Winger
Enrique GARCIA (Argentina) - Racing
Bibiano ZAPIRAÍN (Uruguay) - Nacional
Jose BALBUENA (Peru) - U de Chile
Aristobulo DEAMBROSI (Argentina) - River Plate
PATESKO (Brazil) - Botafogo
Gabino ARREGUI (Argentina) - Gimnasia
Raul EMEAL (Argentina) - Boca Jrs

 

Impressive work as always msioux!

Here's some suggestions/honorable mentions that could be on the list.

- Modesto Bria (Paraguay): One of the best CH in Brazil playing for Flamengo. He could be in the list, deserving as much as Rui (São Paulo).
- Oscar Basso (Argentina): Really good CB still remembered as one of the best from San Lorenzo and Botafogo's history.

If I remember more names I'll post here.

Again, superb collection of names! :smileani:

 

Thanks Maniac

The first time i read about Bria was in a post of yours in an old thread. Basso is a good call too. I'd add both.

If you or anybody feel some names are absolutely over(under)rated in certain era, please feel free to mentioned.

 

It is better to read the magazines of the time as it does Msioux, that reduce all to simple data as does Dearman.

Example for compare:

Zamorano made ​​348 goals and Salas had 249 .

For Dearman
Zamorano is better that Salas
But using the phenomenological method

Salas is better that Zamorano, because in his time was considered more technical.
That information is given by the magazines

Why Msioux method is more rigorous? because the objective is to account for the social events. We are talking about social facts no of records on plants.
And most important is take the social fact in YOUR context, clean the historical prejudices and overcome the reduction of data.
Derman makes the mistake of being reductionist

The Phenomenological method should be applied
putting the social context where the event is raised, "in parentheses" (Epoché)
and give an account objectively of expert opinion in your present with references and citations.
This is rigor
Msioux does something very good here.
He classifies each period at specific times.
This allows turning "in Parentheses" (Epoché) the contexts of each time.

Our task is to provide references and citations from experts rated each time.
This will allow us to recreate the context and sort the facts.

 

Heroe, for Dearman, he clearly mentions that he using "STATISTICS" as the primary method of judging historical players.
I agree Salas should rank higher than Zamorano or any other Chile footballers, for that matter, but if you ask most people who watch them (Zamorano in Real Madrid and Inter, Salas in River and Lazio), I believe would choose Zamorano over Salas.
Why? Maybe because Real Madrid and Inter are more popular than River and Lazio.
Most of the world only follow three European football league week in week out, Italian, English and Spanish since late 1980's.
None of use have access to cable or internet until early 2000s.
And Lazio clearly rated lower than Inter in any era, even in their Scudetto season.

Me? my reason is simple Salas actually played well and scored goals in 1998 World Cup, while Zamorano did not.
I think Salas a fraction ahead of Zamorano as the best Chile player ever.

Correction: After Figueroa!!!
So, Figueroa, Salas, Zamorano, Sanchez as my personal Chile best players.

Why I dont like Dearman ranking? He too mathematics in approach, maybe because he did not actually watch the past games.
And partly he is too snobby to respond to my asking of his comment about Thai football history.

 

Yes, great source for later projects of retconned World Cup tournaments.
We have done Uruguay 1930, I am planning for Italy 1934, France 1938, Brazil 1942 and Indonesia 1950!!!
The premise is that Brazil already get the last World Cup.
With most Europe was battered by recent war, FIFA with persuasion of Karel Lotsy (a FIFA vice president, KNVB high-rank officer and former VUVSI/ISNIS chairman) to award the tournament to the newly independent Indonesia.

Will be watching from afar, and make observations on the players.

 

In fact, i had the 1930s lists already. But don't want to post it during your retconned WC

I'm waiting for the next WC, mate

 

Will roll the tournament in a "good time" in near future.
^_^

The plan is 1950 WC is the ultimate "no-strategy" world cup, where every team played "football as it should be played" with brutish and brawn, well maybe a bit of skill and luck.

 

the best attacking formation in Argentina in the 40's were:

Pastorelli, Cucurzo, Hoff, Mendez y Estigarribia

 

The important thing is to get the impression of the people of the time.
The science of printing and consciousness as social facts is phenomenology.
I'm bored of the reductionist that believe that are right.
They summarize all at data and this is to make reduced.
Reduce is lose the rigor and deform the information
We are not talking here of plants, we are talking about social facts.
The rigor consist in to put in parentheses (Epoché) the object of study of all that is out of context. Clear all prejudice, appendage and reductionism.
Msioux do well when classified the players in times, because it allows us to put the matter in parentheses and our task is to find information and expert opinion of the time to recreate the social context to justify the classification of a list for the best of each time.
For me, work of Msioux is the best this forum.

 

Hey men, don't try to undervalue Dearman's work. He got my respect for his great job, effort, research and open minded to advice with a good backup supporting the ideas.

It just that i prefer to did something different. I listed the class players within a small range of years, to make it easy to compare them.

Dearman did the next step, trying to make comparable different eras and contexts, that's explain the formulas, but take it as an aproximation.

 

Don't get me wrong.
I think Dearman's work WAS MAGNIFICENT, I admire and envy him at the same time.

 

I do not want to devalue the Dearman work, I want that he to take intoaccount the most important qualitative issues.
The soccer is different in every culture yet always South America proposed a elaborate style. I think (for example), that he overestimate to the Eastern Europeans and devalue the Latin countries because he certainly do not realize that football in South America has a long tradition and has left more influence on modern football ... The Eastern Europeans, have never inherited "football schools", style football (this is a qualitative argument) , because they always played to physical and defensive football. The Eastern European play has less elaboration that the play of South America and this must be considerate in the time to compare, because the record is partial.

Friends, the data is not everything. the data reduces, he not make generalize.
The problem with the old positivist methods is that they can not maintain a generality.
The questions are:
How do you do to rank to Ronaldo above to Klose in WC?
To discard the record of red cards as a true source of information?
How to compare between a forward and a defender?
The Dearman method is good for ratings.
The Dearman work is a great source of information.
However, you can not believe that you can aspire to give off value judgments about facts that are the terms of the impressions.

 

Vidal>Salas/Zamorano/Sánchez/R. Toro/Caszely

 

Resume of the first places for SA leagues in the early 1940s

----------- CHAMPION ---- SECOND ---- THIRD
Arg 1940 --- Boca Jrs -- Independiente -- River
Arg 1941 ----- River ---- San Lorenzo -- Newell's
Arg 1942 ----- River ---- San Lorenzo -- Huracán
Uru 1940 --- Nacional ---- Rampla Jrs - Wanderers
Uru 1941 --- Nacional ----- Peñarol --- Rampla Jrs
Uru 1942 --- Nacional ----- Peñarol --- Wanderers
Car 1940 -- Fluminense --- Flamengo
Car 1941 -- Fluminense --- Flamengo
Car 1942 --- Flamengo ---- Botafogo
Paul 1940 --- Palestra --- Portuguesa
Paul 1941 - Corinthians --- Sao Paulo
Paul 1942 -- Palmeiras ---- Corinthians
Per 1940 --- Municipal --- Universitario
Per 1941 -- Universitario --- Municipal
Per 1942 --- Sport Boys --- Municipal
Chi 1940 --- U de Chile ---- Audax It.
Chi 1941 ---- Colo Colo -- Stgo.Morning
Chi 1942 -- Stgo.Morning -- Magallanes
Par 1940 --- Cerro Port. - Sol de América
Par 1941 --- Cerro Port. ----- Olimpia
Par 1942 -- Club Nacional -- Cerro Port.

Notes:
In 1940, Ricardo Aldao cup was shared by Nacional and Boca.
In 1941, River beat Nacional
In 1942, Nacional beat River.
http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/aldao.html

In 1941, San Lorenzo beat Peñarol for the runner-up Copa.
In 1942, Peñarol won San Lorenzo
http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/escobargerona.html

In 1942, was played the Santiago Cup: 1)Peñarol 2) River 3) Colo Colo
http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/santiago-clubtourn.html

In the 1940 Rio-Sao Paulo tournament the 1st place was shared by Fluminense and Flamengo

Some mexican tours by SA clubs
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesv/velez-mextrip40.html
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesb/botafogo-mex41.html
http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/estudiantes-mex41.HTML
http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/sucre-mex41.HTML
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesl/lorenzo-mex42.html

 

Resume of the first places for SA leagues in the mid 1940s

----------- CHAMPION -- SECOND ---- THIRD
Arg 1943 --- Boca Jrs ---- River ---- San Lorenzo
Arg 1944 ----Boca Jrs ---- River ---- Estudiantes
Arg 1945 ----- River ---- Boca Jrs - Independiente
Arg 1946 - San Lorenzo - Boca Jrs ------ River
Uru 1943 --- Nacional --- Peñarol ----- Miramar
Uru 1944 ---- Peñarol --- Nacional ---- Defensor
Uru 1945 ---- Peñarol --- Nacional ---- Defensor
Uru 1946 --- Nacional ---- Peñarol ---- River-uru-
Car 1943 --- Flamengo - Fluminense
Car 1944 --- Flamengo ---- Vasco
Car 1945 ----- Vasco ---- Botafogo
Car 1946 -- Fluminense --- Botafogo
Paul 1943 -- Sao Paulo -- Corinthians
Paul 1944 -- Palmeiras --- Sao Paulo
Paul 1945 -- Sao Paulo -- Corinthians
Paul 1946 -- Sao Paulo -- Corinthians
Per 1943 --- Municipal -- Alianza Lima
Per 1944 ----- Sucre ----- Municipal
Per 1945 -- Universitario -- Municipal
Per 1946 -- Universitario -- Municipal
Chi 1943 --- U.Española --- Colo Colo
Chi 1944 ---- Colo Colo ---- Audax It.
Chi 1945 -- Green Cross - Unión Española
Chi 1946 --- Audax Ital. ---- Magallanes
Par 1943 ---- Libertad ------- Olimpia
Par 1944 - Cerro Porteño ---- Libertad
Par 1945 ----- Libertad --- Cerro Porteño
Par 1946 -- Club Nacional - Sol de América

Notes:
In 1943, Racing beat Rosario Central, Magallanes and Colo Colo for the Santiago Cup.
In 1945, River beat Peñarol in the Ricardo Aldao cup (winners)
In 1945, Boca shared with Nacional the Escobar Gerona Copa (runner up)
In 1946, Boca beat Peñarol for the same Copa

Also a brazilian tour by Libertad (Par) in 1946
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesl/libertad-trip46.HTML

 

Resume of the first places for SA leagues in the late 1940s

----------- CHAMPION -- SECOND ---- THIRD
Arg 1947 ----- River --- Boca Jrs - Independiente
Arg 1948 Independiente -- River ---- Estudiantes
Arg 1949 -----Racing ---- River ------ Platense
Uru 1947 --- Nacional --- Peñarol ----- Rampla
Uru 1948 --- Nacional --- Peñarol ---- River-uru-
Uru 1949 ---- Peñarol --- Nacional ---- Rampla
Car 1947 ----- Vasco --- Botafogo
Car 1948 --- Botafogo ---- Vasco
Car 1949 ----- Vasco --- Fluminense
Paul 1947 -- Palmeiras -- Corinthians
Paul 1948 -- Sao Paulo ---- Santos
Paul 1949 -- Sao Paulo --- Palmeiras
Per 1947 ---- Chalaco ---- Municipal
Per 1948 - Alianza Lima ---- Chalaco
Per 1949 - Universitario ----- Sucre
Chi 1947 --- Colo Colo ---- Audax It.
Chi 1948 -- Audax Ital.- Unión Española
Chi 1949 -- U.Católica - Stgo.Wanderers
Par 1947 ---- Olimpia ------ Guaraní
Par 1948 ---- Olimpia --- Cerro Porteño
Par 1949 ---- Guaraní --- Club Nacional

Notes:
In 1947 (jan-feb) was played La Copa del Atlántico, 1)Boca and Nacional 3) Peñarol 4) River 5) Palmeiras and Vasco
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesa/atlantico47.HTML

In 1947, River beat Nacional in Aldao Cup (winners)
In 1948 was played the SA clubs championship
http://www.rsssf.com/sacups/copa48det.html

In 1947, San Lorenzo touring Spain & Portugal
http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/wiki/historica_gira_1946-1947

In 1949, River beating Torino-símbolo (in fact, Serie-A XI)
http://elfeolabruna.com.ar/tragedia-de-superga/

Some mexican tours by SA clubs (inc. Ferencvaros and Bratislava)
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fradi47tour.HTML
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesr/racing-mex47tour.html
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/independiente-mex48tour.html
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesn/nvbratislava-mex48tour.html

 

I'll tried to update the 1940s list later.

Now, i have the 1930s list with resume, stats and intl. competition

 

Late 1930s (1937-39) v.1

This personal list considers the better South American players for each role in the 1937-39 period.

Keepers
BELLO, Fernando (Arg) - Independiente
HONORES, Juan (Per) – Universitario
JAGUARÉ (Bra) – Olympique Marseille / Marítimo
ESTRADA, Juan (Arg) – Huracán / Boca Jrs.
BESUZZO, Juan (Uru) – Wanderers / River Plate
GUALCO, Sebastián (Arg) – Chacarita / San Lorenzo
YUSTRICH, Elías (Arg) – Boca Jrs. / Gimnasia
BATATAIS (Bra) - Fluminense
GARCÍA, Eduardo (Uru) – Nacional
VALDIVIESO, Juan (Per) – Alianza Lima


Right FullBacks
DA GUÍA, Domingos (Bra) – Boca / Flamengo
CORTÉS, Ascanio (Chi) – Audax Italiano / River Plate
SANGUINETTI, Manuel (Uru) – River Montevideo/Independiente
CHAPPEL, Raúl (Per) – Sport Boys
QUISPE, Juan (Per) – Alianza Lima
FAZZIO, Luis (Arg) – Independiente / Nacional
SEOANE, Arturo (Uru) - Wanderers
CÓRDOVA, Jorge (Chi) – Magallanes
INVERNIZZI, Antonio (Par) - Libertad


Left FullBacks
MUÑIZ, Agenor (Uru) – Wanderers
ALBERTI, Jorge (Arg) - Huracán
FERNÁNDEZ, Arturo (Per) – Universitario
CUELLO, Alberto (Arg) – River Plate
MASCHERONI, Ernesto (Uru) - Peñarol
COLETTA, Sabino (Arg) – Independiente
CADILLA, Avelino (Uru) – River Montevideo
MARANTE, José (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
ROA, Humberto (Chi) – Audax Italiano


Right Halfback
ZUNINO, Erebo (Uru) - Peñarol
MONTAÑEZ, Óscar (Arg) – Gimnasia
SANTAMARÍA, Carlos (Arg) - Fluminense
TOVAR, Carlos (Per) – Universitario
ZEZÉ Procopio (Bra) – At.Mineiro / Botafogo
SBARRA, Roberto (Arg) - Estudiantes
BLOTTO, Héctor (Arg) – Vélez
MONTERO, Juan (Chi) – Colo Colo
AYALA, Diego (Par) - Libertad


Attacking Centrehalf
MINELLA, José María (Arg) – River Plate
CASTILLO, Titina (Per) – Sport Boys
LAZZATTI, Ernesto (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
BRANDAO, José Augusto (Bra) – Corinthians
GALVALISI, Eugenio (Uru) – Rampla Jrs / Nacional
RIVEROS, Guillermo (Chi) – Audax Italiano
FACCIO, Ricardo (Uru) - Nacional
VILLALBA, Jacinto (Par) – Cerro Porteño
GESTIDO, Álvaro (Uru) – Peñarol
RODOLFI, Bruno (Arg) – River Plate


Left Halfback
SUÁREZ, Pedro “Arico” (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
COLOMBO, Bartolomé (Arg) – San Lorenzo
PÉREZ, Marcelino (Uru) - Vasco
WERGIFKER, Aaron (Arg) – River Plate
MARTÍNEZ, Celestino (Arg) - Independiente
JORDÁN, Orestes (Per) – Universitario
AFONSINHO (Bra) – Sao Cristovao
PORTAL, Carlos (Per) – Sport Boys
PONCE, Luis (Chi) – Magallanes


Right Winger
PORTA, Roberto (Uru) – Nacional
PEUCELLE, Carlos (Arg) – River Plate
SORREL, Enrique (Chi) – Colo Colo
LUIZINHO Oliveira (Bra) – Palestra Itália
GUAITA, Enrique (Arg) – Racing / Estudiantes
CASTRO, Braulio (Uru) – Peñarol
BARRIOS, Marcial (Par) – Olimpia / Huracán
ALCALDE, Teodoro (Per) – Sport Boys
MINISTRINHO; Pedro Sernagiotto (Bra) – Sao Paulo


Inside Right
LEÓNIDAS da Silva (Bra) – Flamengo
VARELA, Severino (Uru) - Peñarol
DE LA MATA, Vicente (Arg) – Independiente
CIOCCA, Aníbal (Uru) – Nacional
VARALLO, Francisco (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
ROMEU Pelliciari (Bra) - Fluminense
MAGALLANES, Adelfo (Per) – Alianza Lima
VALDEMAR De Brito (Bra) – Flamengo / San Lorenzo
CHIRIMINI, Óscar (Uru) – River Montevideo
AVENDAÑO, José (Chi) - Magallanes


Centreforward
ERICO, Arsenio (Par) – Independiente
FERNÁNDEZ, Teodoro "Lolo" (Per) – Universitario
GARCÍA, Atilio (Arg) – Boca Jrs. / Nacional
TORO, Raúl (Chi) – Santiago Wanderers
ALCALDE, Jorge (Per) – Sport Boys / River Plate
MASANTONIO, Herminio (Arg) - Huracán
BENÍTEZ CÁCERES, Delfín (Par) – Boca Jrs.
GONZÁLEZ, Aurelio (Par) – Olimpia
PURICELLI, Héctor (Uru) – Central Español / Bologna
CARVALHO Leite (Bra) – Botafogo
DOMÍNGUEZ, Alfonso (Chi) – Badminton/U.Española/Colo Colo


Inside Left
SASTRE, Antonio (Arg) – Independiente
MORENO, José Manuel (Arg) – River Plate
TIM (Bra) – Fluminense
VILLADÓNIGA, Segundo (Uru) – Peñarol / Vasco
PERÁCIO, José (Bra) – Botafogo
BALDONEDO, Emilio (Arg) – Huracán
FEDULLO, Francisco (Uru) – Bologna
CHERRO, Roberto (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
ORTEGA, Miguel (Par) - Libertad
ARANCIBIA, Carlos (Chi) – Colo Colo


Left Winger
GARCÍA, Enrique (Arg) – Racing
PEDERNERA, Adolfo (Arg) – River Plate
HÉRCULES (Bra) – Fluminense
CAMAITI, Adelaido (Uru) – Peñarol
PATESKO (Bra) – Botafogo
MORALES, José (Per) – Alianza Lima
EMEAL, Raúl (Arg) – Ferro / Vasco
ARREGUI, Gabino (Arg) – Gimnasia
FLOR, Martín (Par) – Cerro Porteño


Oriundi not named: Andreolo, Figliola, Filó Guarisi, Lauri, Elisio Gabardo, Duhart, Sansone

 

Most prominent clubs at late 1930s

Resume of the first places for SA leagues in the late 1930s

-------------- CHAMPION ----- SECOND ------ THIRD
Arg 1937 ------ River ----- Independiente --- Boca Jrs
Arg 1938 - Independiente ----- River ----- San Lorenzo
Arg 1939 - Independiente ----- River -------- Huracán
Uru 1937 ----- Peñarol ------ Nacional ----- Wanderers
Uru 1938 ----- Peñarol ------ Nacional -- Central Español
Uru 1939 ----- Nacional ------ Peñarol ----- Wanderers
Car 1937 --- Fluminense ---- Flamengo
Car 1938 --- Fluminense ---- Flamengo
Car 1939 ---- Flamengo ------ Botafogo
Paul 1937 -- Corinthians --- Palestra Italia
Paul 1938 -- Corinthians ----- Sao Paulo
Paul 1939 -- Corinthians --- Palestra Italia
Per 1937 ---- Sport Boys ---- Alianza Lima
Per 1938 ----- Municipal ----- Sport Boys
Per 1939 --- Universitario ----- Sucre FC
Chi 1937 ----- Colo Colo ------ Magallanes
Chi 1938 ---- Magallanes --- Audax Italiano
Chi 1939 ----- Colo Colo -- Santiago Morning
Par 1937 ------ Olimpia ----- Cerro Porteño
Par 1938 ------ Olimpia ----- Cerro Porteño
Par 1939 -- Cerro Porteño ------ Olimpia


Clubs tournaments & Tours:
-------------- CHAMPION --- SECOND
Aldao 37 ------- River ------- Peñarol
Aldao 38 - Independiente --- Peñarol
Aldao 39 - Independiente --- Nacional

4th Centenary of Cali, 1937
Talleres touring Paraguay, 1938


Countries in Intl. Tournaments
-------------- 1st ----- 2nd ----- 3rd ----- 4th
CA 1937 ---- ARG ---- BRA ---- URU ---- PAR
WC 1938 ---- BRA
CA 1939 ----- PER ---- URU ---- PAR

Argentina withdrew for the WCQ'38. Others didn't participated.
Argentina & Brazil withdrew for the CA'39


Higher NT's ELO for the period jan.1937 - dec.1939
Argentina - 2031
Uruguay - 1893
Brazil - 1868
Perú - 1764
Paraguay - 1736
Chile - 1617
Colombia - 1606
Bolivia - 1416

 

Resume for the Late-1930s

This is a resume for the late-30s list v.1


105 players listed = 9.5 players per position


Players by country:
Argentina - 34
Uruguay - 21
Brazil - 16
Perú - 14
Chile - 11
Paraguay - 9


Clubs by League:
Argentina - 10
Brazil - 9
Uruguay - 6
Chile - 6
Perú - 3
Paraguay - 3
Italy - 1
France - 1
Portugal - 1


Players by league*:
Argentina - 36
Uruguay - 18
Brazil - 17
Perú - 13
Chile - 11
Paraguay - 7
Italy - 2
France - 1
Portugal - 1


Clubs with more players:
River Plate - 10
Boca Jrs - 9
Independiente - 8
Peñarol - 7
Nacional - 7
Universitario - 5
Fluminense - 5
Huracán - 5
Botafogo - 4
Colo Colo - 4
......
Others: Flamengo(3), Magallanes(3), San Lorenzo(3), Olimpia(2), Cerro Porteño(2), Corinthians(1), Palestra Italia(1)


* Note: To determinate which league had been more represented, i follow this criteria.
A player who stay all 3 years in one club = 1; in other cases count as 0.5

 

Mid 1930s (1933-36) v.1

This personal list considers the better South American players for each role in the 1933-36 period.

Keepers
VALDIVIESO, Juan (Per) – Alianza Lima
BELLO, Fernando (Arg) - Independiente
GUALCO, Sebastián (Arg) – Platense / San Lorenzo
JAGUARÉ (Bra) – Corinthians / Barcelona / Sporting Lisboa
BALLESTEROS, Enrique (Uru) – Rampla Jrs / Peñarol
YUSTRICH, Elías (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
BESUZZO, Juan (Uru) – Wanderers
GARCÍA, Eduardo (Uru) - Nacional
CORTÉS, Roberto (Chi) – Colo Colo


Right FullBacks
NASAZZI, José (Uru) – Nacional
TARRÍO, Óscar (Arg) – Newell’s / San Lorenzo
IRIBARREN, Juan Carlos (Arg) – Chacarita
FERNÁNDEZ, Arturo (Per) – Universitario
CORTÉS, Ascanio (Chi) – Sport.Tocopilla / Audax Italiano
GONZÁLEZ, José María (Arg) - Racing
WILSON, Carlos (Arg) – Talleres/Unión
SYLVIO Hofmann (Bra) – Peñarol / Sao Paulo / Botafogo
CÓRDOVA, Jorge (Chi) – Magallanes


Left FullBacks
DA GUÍA, Domingos (Bra) – Nacional / Vasco / Boca
MUÑIZ, Agenor (Uru) – Wanderers
CUELLO, Alberto (Arg) – River Plate
JUNQUEIRA, José (Bra) – Palestra Italia
DE SAA, Manuel (Arg) – Vélez / América Río
COLETTA, Sabino (Arg) – Lanús / Talleres
LAVALLE, Víctor Guarderas (Per) – Alianza Lima
OLMEDO, Quiterio (Par) – Club Nacional
CAZENAVE, Héctor (Uru) – Def.Sporting / Peñarol / Sochaux


Right Halfback
ZUNINO, Erebo (Uru) - Peñarol
TOVAR, Carlos (Per) – Universitario
DE JONGE, Rodolfo (Arg) - Independiente
SANTAMARÍA, Carlos (Arg) – River Plate
SBARRA, Roberto (Arg) - Estudiantes
MONTERO, Juan (Chi) – Colo Colo
LÓPEZ, Arcadio (Arg) – Sportivo Bs.As./Ferro
TUNGA (Bra) – Palestra Itália
ARANEDA, Enrique (Chi) –Audax Italiano


Attacking Centrehalf
MINELLA, José María (Arg) – Gimnasia / River Plate
LAZZATTI, Ernesto (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
FAUSTO dos Santos (Bra) – Young Fellow/Nacional/Vasco
ANDREOLO, Miguel (Uru) – Nacional / Bologna
TORRES, Arturo (Chi) – Magallanes / Colo Colo
MARTIM da Silveira (Bra) – Boca Jrs. / Botafogo
CASTILLO, Titina (Per) – Sport Boys
FERNÁNDEZ, Lorenzo (Uru) – Peñarol
CORAZZO, Juan Carlos (Uru) - Independiente
RIVEROS, Guillermo (Chi) – La Cruz / Audax Italiano
BRANDAO, José Augusto (Bra) – Portuguesa / Corinthians


Left Halfback
GESTIDO, Álvaro (Uru) - Peñarol
SUÁREZ, Arico (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
WERGIFKER, Aaron (Arg) – River Plate
PÉREZ, Marcelino (Uru) - Nacional
JORDÁN, Orestes (Per) – Universitario
GORNALL, Guillermo (Chi) – Audax Italiano
DE MARE, Antonio (Arg) - Racing
CANALLI, Heitor (Bra) – Flamengo / Torino / Botafogo
DENIS, Luis (Uru) – Wanderers


Right Winger
PEUCELLE, Carlos (Arg) – River Plate
PORTA, Roberto (Uru) – Independiente / Ambrosiana
LAVALLE, José María (Per) – Alianza Lima
LAURI, Miguel Ángel (Arg) - Estudiantes
FRIONE, Francisco (Uru) – Ambrosiana
SORREL, Enrique (Chi) – Audax Italiano / Colo Colo
LUIZINHO Oliveira (Bra) – Sao Paulo / Estudiantes SP / Palestra It.
PIRIZ, Juan Emilio (Uru) – Defensor Sporting
CAVADINI, Rubén (Arg) – San Lorenzo


Inside Right
VARALLO, Francisco (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
SASTRE, Antonio (Arg) – Independiente
CASTRO, Héctor (Uru) – Estudiantes / Nacional
ZITO, Vicente (Arg) - Racing
DUHART, Pedro (Uru) – Nacional / Sochaux
CIOCCA, Aníbal (Uru) – Nacional
WALDEMAR de Brito (Bra) – Sao Paulo / Botafogo / San Lorenzo
NILO Braga (Bra) - Botafogo
ANSELMO, Peregrino (Uru) - Peñarol
MAYO, Iván (Chi) – Colo Colo / Vélez Sarsfield
MAGALLANES, Adelfo (Per) – Alianza Lima


Centreforward
FERREYRA, Bernabé (Arg) – River Plate
MASANTONIO, Herminio (Arg) – Huracán
VILLANUEVA, Alejandro (Per) – Alianza Lima
BENÍTEZ CÁCERES, Delfín (Par) – Boca Jrs
ZOZAYA, Alberto (Arg) – Estudiantes
CARVALHO LEITE (Bra) - Botafogo
PETRONILO de Brito (Bra) – San Lorenzo
FERNÁNDEZ, Teodoro (Per) – Universitario
ERICO, Arsenio (Par) – Club Nacional / Independiente
FEITICO (Bra) – Peñarol / Vasco
ALCALDE, Jorge (Per) – Sport Boys


Inside Left
CHERRO, Roberto (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
LEÓNIDAS da Silva (Bra) – Peñarol / Vasco / Botafogo / Flamengo
FEDULLO, Francisco (Uru) – Bologna
FERNÁNDEZ, Enrique (Uru) – Nacional / Barcelona
SCOPELLI, Alejandro (Arg) – Estudiantes / AS Roma / Racing
VARELA, Severino (Uru) – River-Uru / Peñarol
GIÚDICE, Carlos (Chi) – Audax Italiano
GARCÍA, Diego (Arg) – San Lorenzo
DEVINCENZI, Alfredo (Arg) – Estudiantil Porteño / Ambrosiana
VILLADÓNIGA, Segundo (Uru) - Peñarol
CARMONA, Arturo (Chi) - Magallanes


Left Winger
GARCÍA, Enrique (Arg) – Rosario Central /Racing
CASTRO, Braulio (Uru) - Peñarol
PATESKO (Bra) – Nacional / Peñarol / Botafogo
HÉRCULES (Bra) – Sao Paulo Floresta / Fluminense
MORALES, José (Per) – Alianza Lima
ARRIETA, Arturo (Arg) – San Lorenzo
AVILÉS, Moisés (Chi) – Audax Italiano
SCHENËEBERGER, Carlos (Chi) – Colo Colo
FIGUEROA, Roberto (Uru) – Wanderers


Oriundi not named: Mascheroni, Octavio Fantoni, Monti, Uslenghi, Faccio, Guaita, Filó Guarisi, Sernagiotto, Cesarini, Libonatti, Arturo Ludueña, Atila Sallustro, Sansone, Demaría, Orsi

 

Most prominent sides at mid-30s

Resume of the first places for SA leagues in the mid 1930s

-------------- CHAMPION ----- SECOND ------ THIRD
Arg 1933 --San Lorenzo --- Boca Jrs ------- Racing
Arg 1934 --- Boca Jrs ---Independiente - San Lorenzo
Arg 1935 ----Boca Jrs --- Independiente - San Lorenzo
Arg 1936 ----- River ------ San Lorenzo ----- Racing
Uru 1933 --- Nacional------- Peñarol ------ Rampla Jrs
Uru 1934 --- Nacional------- Peñarol ------ Wanderers
Uru 1935 ---- Peñarol------ Nacional ----- Rampla Jrs
Uru 1936 ---- Peñarol---- Rampla Jrs ----- Nacional
Car 1933 ---- Botafogo ----- Bangú
Car 1934 ---- Botafogo ------ Vasco
Car 1935 ---- Botafogo ----- América
Car 1936 ------ Vasco ---- Fluminense
Paul 1933 -- Palestra It. ----Sao Paulo
Paul 1934 ---Palestra It. --- Sao Paulo
Paul 1935 ----- Santos ----- Portuguesa
Paul 1936 --- Palestra It. ---Portuguesa
Per 1933 --Alianza Lima --Universitario
Per 1934 -- Universitario --Alianza Lima
Per 1935 --- Sport Boys --- Alianza Lima
Per 1936 -----------not played
Chi 1933 --- Magallanes ----- Colo Colo
Chi 1934 --- Magallanes --Audax Italiano
Chi 1935 --- Magallanes - Audax Italiano
Chi 1936 ---- Audax Ital. --- Magallanes
Par 1933 ---------- not played
Par 1934 ---------- not played
Par 1935 --- Cerro Porteño --Sol América
Par 1936 ------ Olimpia ------- Atlántida

In 1933-34, Paraguayan leagues weren't played due to war.
In 1936, peruvian league was cancelled due to Olympic Games participation



Clubs tournaments & Tours:

------------- CHAMPION --- SECOND -------- THIRD -------- FOURTH
Becar 33 ----- Racing --- Central Cba. -- Independiente -- Gimnasia
Aldao 36 ------ River ------- Peñarol
Bs.As 36 ---- Bs.As.XI --- Rosario XI ----- Uruguay XI

Combinado del Pacífico touring Europe, 1933-34



Countries in Intl. Tournaments
-------------- 1st ----- 2nd ----- 3rd
WC 1934 --- BRA ---- ARG
CA 1935 ---- URU ---- ARG ---- PER
OG 1936 ---- PER

Perú & Chile withdrew for the WCQ'34. Others didn't participated.
Brazil & Paraguay withdrew for the CA'35
Perú didn't allowed to play SF in the OG'36. Others SA didn't participated


Higher NT's ELO for the period jan.1933 - dec.1936
Argentina - 1994
Uruguay - 1970
Brazil - 1794
Paraguay - 1674 (before war)
Perú - 1615
Chile - 1592

 

Resume for mid 30s

This is a resume for the mid-30s list v.1


107 players listed = 9.7 players per position


Players by country:
Argentina - 34
Uruguay - 26
Brazil - 18
Chile - 14
Perú - 12
Paraguay - 3


Clubs by League:
Argentina - 18
Brazil - 9
Uruguay - 6
Chile - 5
Italy - 4
Perú - 3
Paraguay - 1


Players by league*:
Argentina - 38
Uruguay - 23
Brazil - 15
Chile - 15
Perú - 12
Italy - 5
Paraguay - 2


Clubs with more players:
Peñarol - 13
Nacional - 11
Boca Jrs - 8
Botafogo - 8
Audax Italiano - 7
San Lorenzo - 7
Alianza Lima - 6
Independiente - 6
Colo Colo - 6
River Plate - 5
Estudiantes - 5
Racing - 5
Montevideo Wanderers - 4
Universitario - 4
Sao Paulo - 4
Vasco - 4
......


* Note: To determinate which league had been more represented, i follow this criteria.
A player who stay all 3 years in one club = 1; in other cases count as 0.5

 

Please, you make the specification is not Wanderers of Valparaíso or Bolton Wanderers is of Montevideo Wanderers.

Very great work, true :thumbsup:

 

Early 1930s (1930-32) v.1

This personal list considers the better South American players for each role in the 1930-32 period.

Keepers
BALLESTEROS, Enrique (Uru) – Rampla Jrs
VALDIVIESO, Juan (Per) – Alianza Lima
JAGUARÉ Bezerra (Bra) – Vasco / Corinthians
BOSSIO, Ángel (Arg) – Talleres Escalada
DENIS, Modesto (Par) – Club Nacional
BOTASSO, Juan (Arg) - Racing
PARDÓN, Jorge (Per) – Sporting Tabaco
VELLOSO, Oswaldo (Bra) - Fluminense
BENÍTEZ, Pedro (Par) – Libertad / Atlanta


Right FullBacks
NASAZZI, José (Uru) - Bellavista
DELLATORRE, José (Arg) - Racing
DA GUÍA, Domingos (Bra) – Bangú
TARRÍO, Óscar (Arg) – San Lorenzo / Newell’s
SALDARRIAGA, Alfonso (Per) – Hidroaviación / Frigorífico
MORALES, Víctor (Chi) – Colo Colo
IRIBARREN, Juan Carlos (Arg) – River Plate
GRANÉ, Pedro (Bra) - Corinthians
OLMEDO, Quiterio (Par) – Club Nacional
FERNÁNDEZ, Arturo (Per) – Fed. Universitaria


Left FullBacks
PATERNÓSTER, Fernando (Arg) – Racing / Vélez
MASCHERONI, Ernesto (Uru) – Peñarol
ARISPE, Pedro (Uru) – Rampla Jrs.
MAQUILÓN, Antonio (Per) – Chalaco / Frigorífico
MUTIS, Ramón (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
TEJERA, Domingo (Uru) - Wanderers
CUELLO, Alberto (Arg) – Tigre / River Plate
RIVEROS, Guillermo (Chi) – La Cruz
ITÁLIA; Luis Gervasoni (Bra) - Vasco
SORIA, Alberto (Per) – Alianza Lima


Right Halfback
EVARISTO, Juan (Arg) – Sportivo Palermo / Boca Jrs
ANDRADE, José Leandro (Uru) – Nacional / Peñarol
CHIVIDINI, Alberto (Arg) – Estudiantil Porteño / Vélez
TORRES, Arturo (Chi) – Colo Colo
ETCHEVERRY, Romildo (Par) - Olimpia
DE JONGE, Rodolfo (Arg) – San Telmo / Independiente
LÓPEZ, Arcadio (Arg) – Lanús
HERMÓGENES Fonseca (Bra) – América Río
DENEGRI, Alberto (Per) – Fed. Universitaria


Attacking Centrehalf
MONTI, Luis (Arg) – San Lorenzo / Juventus
CORAZZO, Juan Carlos (Uru) – Sudamérica / Racing
FAUSTO dos Santos (Bra) – Vasco / Barcelona
SAAVEDRA, Guillermo (Chi) – Colo Colo
FERNÁNDEZ, Lorenzo (Uru) – Peñarol
OCCHIUZZI, Francisco (Uru) - Wanderers
ZUMELZÚ, Adolfo (Arg) – Sportivo Palermo / Tigre
MINELLA, José María (Arg) – Gimnasia
FLEITAS SOLICH, Manuel (Par) – Boca Jrs / Platense
URBIETA SOSA, Constantino (Par) – Club Nacional / Tigre


Left Halfback
GESTIDO, Álvaro (Uru) – Peñarol
FACCIO, Ricardo (Uru) – Wanderers / Nacional
SUÁREZ, Pedro “Arico” (Arg) – Ferro / Boca Jrs.
ORLANDINI, Rodolfo (Arg) – Estudiantil Porteño / Genoa
BRIZUELA, Bartolomé (Par) - Chacarita
GARCÍA, Domingo (Per) – Alianza Lima
SERAFINI, Enrique (Bra) – Palestra Italia / Lazio
ASTENGO, Eduardo (Per) – Fed. Universitaria
GARCETE, Tranquilino (Par) – Pdte Hayes / Libertad


Right Winger
PEUCELLE, Carlos (Arg) – Sportivo Bs.As./River Plate
PORTA, Roberto (Uru) – Nacional / Independiente
LAVALLE, José María (Per) – Alianza Lima
LAURI, Miguel Ángel (Arg) – Estudiantes
FILÓ; Anfilógino Guarisi (Bra) – Corinthians / Lazio
DORADO, Pablo (Uru) – Bellavista / River PLate
FRIONE, Francisco (Uru) – Wanderers
CARRICABERRY, Alfredo (Arg) – San Lorenzo / Huracán
NESSI, Lino (Par) - Libertad
PERINETTI, Natalio (Arg) – Racing Club


Inside Right
VARALLO, Francisco (Arg) – Gimnasia / Boca Jrs.
CASTRO, Héctor (Uru) – Nacional / Estudiantes
SCOPELLI, Alejandro (Arg) – Estudiantes
SCARONE, Héctor (Uru) – Nacional / Ambrosiana
FEITIÇO; Luis Matoso (Bra) – Santos
SASTRE, Antonio (Arg) - Independiente
ROMEU Pelliciari (Bra) – Palestra Italia
NILO Murtinho Braga (Bra) – Botafogo
LAGO, Pedro (Uru) – Peñarol / River
MONTELLANOS, Alberto (Per) – Alianza Lima
SUBIABRE, Guillermo (Chi) – Colo Colo


Centreforward
STÁBILE, Guillermo (Arg) – Genoa
PETRONE, Pedro (Uru) – Nacional / Fiorentina
FERREYRA, Bernabé (Arg) – Tigre / River Plate
VILLANUEVA, Alejandro (Per) – Alianza Lima
GONZÁLEZ, Aurelio (Par) - Olimpia
RUSSINHO; Moacir Siqueira (Bra) - Vasco
BENÍTEZ CÁCERES, Delfín (Par) - Libertad
ZOZAYA, Alberto (Arg) – Estudiantes
DUHART, Pedro (Uru) – Nacional
CARVALHO Leite (Bra) – Botafogo
FRIEDENREICH, Artur (Bra) – Sao Paulo


Inside Left
CHERRO, Roberto (Arg) – Boca Jrs.
FERREIRA, Manuel "Nolo" (Arg) - Estudiantes
FEDULLO, Francisco (Uru) – Bologna
ANSELMO, Peregrino (Uru) – Peñarol
PREGUINHO; Joao Coelho (Bra) - Fluminense
DEMARÍA, Atilio (Arg) – Gimnasia / Ambrosiana
GIUDICE, Carlos (Chi) – Audax Italiano / Peñarol
CEA, Pedro (Uru) - Nacional
ZITO, Vicente (Arg) – Racing
ARAKEN Patusca (Bra) – Sao Paulo


Left Winger
FIGUEROA, Roberto (Uru) – Wanderers
GUAITA, Enrique (Arg) - Estudiantes
SCHENËEBERGER, Carlos (Chi) – Colo Colo
EVARISTO, Mario (Arg) – Boca Jrs / Sportivo Barracas
IRIARTE, Santos (Uru) – Racing Montevideo / Peñarol
AVILÉS, Moisés (Chi) – Audax Italiano
SALDOMBIDE, Zoilo (Uru) - Nacional
VARGAS PEÑA, Luis (Par) - Olimpia
SPADARO, Carlos (Arg) – Estudiantil Porteño / Lanús


Oriundi not named: Del Debbio, Paulo Innocenti, Octavio Fantoni, Cesarini, Libonatti, Arturo Ludueña, Atila Sallustro, Orsi, Alexandre De Maria, Sagi Barba