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#1 ·
I like Edmílson, but to keep Iniesta on the bench during next season would be an absolute travesty. He has really grown in last few months and shown that he can get stuck in and play rough when necessary. In terms of technique, the guy is on another level, in the same league as Xavi and Guardiola.

He's shown he can handle big pressure games and play intelligently, so inexperience and/or age is not an issue.

Edmílson is better defensively, but I wouldn't say it's by a big margin. Offensively, there is no contest whatsoever.

Iniesta has to be a regular next season. He's ready.
 
#3 ·
I´d give Iniesta the nod over both Edmilson and Deco, enough said ! :stuckup:

Possession football should always be the main priority and in this case its very obvious although i have a feeling it wont happen. :lala:

Edmilson has done very good for us but its time to let Iniesta shine and theres always rotation for him. In other words, agreed.
 
#4 ·
I've never liked Edmilson and i always thought he wasn't as good as some people here make him out to be.
It's really a no contest between him and Iniesta. If our trio is fit then they ALWAYS be our starting midfield. It would really be an absolute crime if Andres isn't given a starting position in our line-up next year.
 
#6 ·
Iniesta should get some more starts, but there will be many games where Edmilson's defensive skills will be needed more. In the home games where we will be playing against ultra defensive teams, Deco-Xavi-Iniesta is the way to go.
 
#7 ·
I don't get the whole "Edmilson is better defensively" or " we need Edmilson's defensive abilities for this game or that". I can see arguing his height and physical play in contrast to that of Iniesta. Still if Iniesta were to play as he finished the season, then that's all that Edmilson has on him.

I'd definately like to see Iniesta replace Edmilson to start out with. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
 
#8 ·
What i have noticed about Iniestas improvement the most is this newlyfound tactical awareness on the field, that he seemed to pick out of nowhere and a certain aggressiveness on the pitch that he lacked before.
He went from being a scared kid, at times, to a man that doesnt pull out of 50/50 situations. Tackle hard and clean without overdoing it, always in control. Besides that, hes always available to recieve the ball and finds the right solutions, which benefits the team. Iniesta as the starter, for sure.
 
#9 ·
sonic07 said:
I´d give Iniesta the nod over both Edmilson and Deco, enough said ! :stuckup:
:howler: :howler: :howler:

I would think a Barcelona fan would know how essential Deco is in the team. He's far more important than Iniesta is for Rijkaard's squad.
 
#10 · (Edited)
FigoIsGod said:
:howler: :howler: :howler:

I would think a Barcelona fan would know how essential Deco is in the team. He's far more important than Iniesta is for Rijkaard's squad.
:happy:

Have you seen any of our games in the last couple of months? Iniesta has been far better than Deco and yes i do appreciate his work for our team. Based on current form id choose Iniesta, whats funny again ? And i agreed with a midtfield containing both of them.

Hide in shame el pesetero :thumbsup:
 
#11 ·
FigoIsGod said:
:howler: :howler: :howler:

I would think a Barcelona fan would know how essential Deco is in the team. He's far more important than Iniesta is for Rijkaard's squad.
Pure bollocks. At the place where I was watching the final, some of the Arsenal fans actually started cheering everytime Deco got the ball, he was so ****ing useless with it. He's been like that what seems like forever now.
He's a winner and he (generally) works hard but so is/does Iniesta now, and Andres isn't nearly as infuriating with the ball. Until he decides to shoot on goal, that is.
 
#13 ·
FigoIsGod said:
Deco > Xavi >> Iniesta.
Deco cannot do what Xavi and Iniesta can,I am not giving up Deco for anyone but Iniesta will certainly replace him in 2years.

Xavi slightly better than Iniesta and Deco is nowhere in the comparison because hs is supposed to do a whole different job.
 
#14 ·
iniesta has more vision than xavi imo.
If one of these 3 were taller and cud win headers in midfield, there wudnt have been any talk abt edmilson. Deco and inesta do enuf ball winning with feet.
 
#15 ·
Funny that if Deco wasnt playing for that national team across the Iberia FIG wouldnt even be in this thread.

IMO, Iniesta cannot replace Deco as he doesnt have the workrate there. I do see him being able to replace Xavi in the future and at the current moment the DMC spot can be his.
 
#16 ·
La Parka said:
Funny that if Deco wasnt playing for that national team across the Iberia FIG wouldnt even be in this thread.
Well, Deco's Brazilian so; no. :pp

I am not a big fan of this player and detest his lack of sportsmanship, but cannot deny his importance to a team.

He sees the entire field, provides energy and running for the whole 90 minutes, and can defend just as well as he attacks. Let's also not ignore how many free-kicks this player gets for Barca.

By the way, I was cleaning some old VHS tapes from my room and had an old WCW PPV, I think it was Bash at the Beach. Anyways, La Parka was dancing and stuff... great entertainment. I miss him!
 
#17 ·
FigoIsGod said:
Well, Deco's Brazilian so; no. :pp

I am not a big fan of this player and detest his lack of sportsmanship, but cannot deny his importance to a team.

He sees the entire field, provides energy and running for the whole 90 minutes, and can defend just as well as he attacks. Let's also not ignore how many free-kicks this player gets for Barca.

By the way, I was cleaning some old VHS tapes from my room and had an old WCW PPV, I think it was Bash at the Beach. Anyways, La Parka was dancing and stuff... great entertainment. I miss him!
Yeah but when a player puts on your national shirt I guess it gives you a divine right to defend them:pp . Geez look at the nationalized Brazilians, you get Deco and we get... Senna and Catanha.:yuck:

The second part is exactly why I dont think Iniesta can replace Deco. Iniesta is great and will be fantastic but if you watch him off the ball he doesnt have the hustle and continious running of Deco, instead he runs when needed. THis is why he worked will in DMC because he could keep a great field position and easily run and try to dispossess the attacking when there coming- there always coming straight to him. IN CM on the other hand you have to go left, right, up, down. Its a much harder defensive task despite being further up the pitch.

La Parka, hes in some Mexican promotion now known as L.A. Park due to legal reasons with the name La Parka (hey, I had to do something to get my name changed to this:D). His ring antics where fantastic entertainment.
 
#21 ·
Every summer it´s this "next year´s starting 11"-talk. It´s not that easy. The reason Barca won titles this year was mainly because we had options depending on the opposition. I say no-one would have done better than Edmilson vs. Milan at San Siro when it comes to make Kaká look like a nobody. I say there is no point saying this or that shall be the starting line-up for next season. It all depends on the opposition. We have a great squad with options - that´s enough for me!
 
#23 ·
I've been following Iniesta since his days as the star player at the Mini Estadi. Great vision and someone who can transform a game by himself with those clever passas based on his vision. Better than Deco? Hold your horses! Deco's the engine of the midfield and a playmaker combined with a hardworking midfielder. A midfield including Xavi and Iniesta togheter with Edmilson as an example wouldn't be able to produce the same amount of pressure as one would if Deco played. I'm not either convinced that Xavi, Iniesta and Deco can play togheter. There's need for someone to cover up behind them. It might work against teams on the lower half of the table, but not against stronger ones. It reminds me of Real Mierda's midfield some years ago when they had Redondo and Seedorf playing toghter which worked the best against poorer teams. Inista might be able to fill the shoes of Deco in the future, but he still got a long way to go.
 
#25 ·
Madridista10 said:
You didn't make Kaka look like a nobody.

What happened was that Iniesta destroyed his main supply (Pirlo).

Without the ball it's much easier to take Kaka out of the game, which Edmilson exploited.
You cant measure a player's performance apart from the whole team assistance, its pointless to say: without ronie eto cant become a pichichi, without puyol valdes cannot shine, etc...

The whole midfield is GREAT, and there is nothing like a "season startets", there is something called "match starters", and having Deco, Xavi, Iniesta, Edmilosn, MVB, and Motta is a bless for Rijkaard, he will pick depending on the opponent stength and weaknesses, edmilson is a great player with quality, iniesta is pure class, each one has his style, and i feel they will get equal share of matches next season...
 
#26 ·
I don't know why but Rijkaard doesn't rate Iniesta so high. He played this season because Xavi got injured, but still it wasn't easy for him to play regularly. Until Motta and vBommel got injured he didn't get some proper chances. And still after being one of the best players in the last couple of months, Van Bommel started in the CL final.

I don't expect Iniesta to be a starter next season. Maybe in a couple of seasons.. But I'm sure next year we'll have the same question because he'll manage to impress us once again. He always does.