solid thread.

I never forget that Juve 1998 team was robbed from the CL title by offside mijatovic goal, then again thats Real Madrid for you
In 1999 they were class team as well, though they suffered in league..but they could have won the cl if ancelotti didnt happen ( 2 - 0 up, cock it up and lose 3 - 2 ).

In that List I would also add Milan 2003 - 2007. I think they achieved less then they should though, they did two massive chokejobs vs deportivo and liverpool ( both ties up at one point by 3 goal difference, and cock it up ).


Real Madrid early 2000's might get there too. Ronaldo, Figo, Zidane, Roberto Carlos... they didnt win a CL title with Ronaldo..But I feel that team on paper was scary good.They won two in early 2000's tho.



When it comes to NT's. I think France 1998 - 2006 with zidane, viera, henry etc etc deserve a mention. Italy also 1990's were unluckiest team ever, losing on penalties to eventual champions always. That Italy deserved to win world cup more then 2006 team, just unlucky.

I really liked Holland team 1996 - 2000 as well.

 

I think you can also add manchester united of last couple of years. They won many premier league titles, but were just unlucky to come up against barcelona.
If not for barcelona, United would have won 3 cl titles in last 6 years.

 

Bayern Munich in the late 90s was an amazing team and an extremely unlucky one.

1999 CL final- You know what happened

2000 CL semis: Anelka makes the difference and the ref not calling many fouls in the first leg and that silly back header from Anelka,they thrashed Real 4-1,4-2 in the second group stage.

Amazing team filled with quality.

2001: CL winner

 

ManU deserves to be here more than everyone else,only Jose barely stole ManU's thunder in the middle and that last minute league they lost.

Otherwise a club under huge LBO debt thrashing all the big spenders into medicority.

 

ManU deserves to be here more than everyone else,only Jose barely stole ManU's thunder in the middle and that last minute league they lost.

Otherwise a club under huge LBO debt thrashing all the big spenders into medicority.

:howler: :howler:

 

From 1988


Milan 88-92
Sao Paulo 92-94
Barcelona 08-12
Liverpool 87-90
Corinthians 98-2000


NT

Brazil 94-2009
Spain 08-12
Germany 90-92
France 98-2000
Argentina 2001

 

From 1988


Milan 88-92
Sao Paulo 92-94
Barcelona 08-12
Liverpool 87-90
Corinthians 98-2000


NT

Brazil 94-2009
Spain 08-12
Germany 90-92
France 98-2000
Argentina 2001

lol.

 

I remember it was the invincable arsenal that Jose managed to beat.

And ze da fiel, brazil 1994 to 2009? 15 year span? lol..
you gotta trim that span.

 

Ok Mr P.

HEAT STARTS TODAY for the THIRD IN A ROW roud::wee:

 

club sides: (no order)Barcelona 2007-2010
Ajax 1995
Juventus 1993-1998
Milan 1988-1993
Bayern Munchen-current era

:thmbup:

national sides:
Holland 1998-2000
Spain 2008-
Germany 1988-1992
France 1998-2000
Denmark 1992

 

:thmbup:

national sides:
Holland 1998-2000
Spain 2008-
Germany 1988-1992
France 1998-2000
Denmark 1992

Yugoslavia's was better. I do agree with the other four though.

 

Guardiola's Barcelona and Sacchi&Capello's Milan are the 2 safest choices for clubs. After these 2, things getting hazy... There are too many good choices;
- Los Galacticos
- Lippi era Juventus (both eras)
- Hitzfeld era Bayern
- Mourinho era Chelsea (I think his Real Madrid side was good enough to make the list but their achievements fall short)
- van Gaal era Ajax
- Ferguson's United from 2006 to 2009 (or 2011)
- Ancelotti era Milan (from 2003 to 2007, mainly due to huge CL success. Otherwise their Serie A history should be much more better with that squad.)

Also it is hard to describe this generation of Bayern München. They started to win with van Gaal. In van Gaal's 1st season, they won 2 major cups. They weren't that good in 2010-11 season. In Heynckes' first season, they lost every single trophy in the last games. After that they hammered entire Europe and there was a treble. If Heynckes was still Bayern's coach, I'd call their era started with van Gaal. But Guardiola plays a considerably different approach with the exact same gen. There is a blur about that.

 

- Lippi era Juventus (both eras)
- Ancelotti era Milan (from 2003 to 2007, mainly due to huge CL success. Otherwise their Serie A history should be much more better with that squad.)

Also it is hard to describe this generation of Bayern München. They started to win with van Gaal. In van Gaal's 2st season, they won 2 major cups. They weren't that good in 2010-11 season. In Heynckes' first season, they lost every single trophy in the last games. After that they hammered entire Europe and there was a treble. If Heynckes was still Bayern's coach, I'd call their era started with van Gaal. But Guardiola plays a considerably different approach with the exact same gen. There is a blur about that.

Discount both of Lippi's team's due to drugs and ref usage, ergo Milan's failure to win more than 1 league in the mid 00's.

bayern - Surely the fact that the players have adapted to a different approach under Guardiola is even more reason to highlight them as a great team!

 

Club Teams
1) Pep's Barcelona
2) Sacchi/Capello's Milan
3) LvG/Heynckes' Bayern
4) Lippi's first era Juve
5) Cruyff's Barcelona

NT Teams
1) Spain 08-Present
2) France 98-2006
3) Brazil 98-02
4) Italy 90-94
5) Holland 94-98

 

NT Teams
1) Spain 08-Present
2) France 98-2006
3) Brazil 98-02
4) Italy 90-94
5) Holland 94-98

:howler: what?

Those team were serious rubbish. Holland actually had a stronger in the years before, they won euro 88 and were favourites for 92 and WC 1990 (lost to the eventual winners in both 90 and 92).

Also germany from 90-96 were probably better than any NT on that list except spain.

 

Why laughing, LCF? 15 years, almost your favorite age

 

I never felt with my Boquita so confident like between 98 till 2003

 

How could Pep's Barca not be number one ?

Really a team that wopped Madrid/Mourinho 5-0, beat fergie twice in a very dominating manner won 6 trophies in one year, followed by another double after it , is number 1.

 

By the way, I think that teams like Roma, Dortmund and Atletico Madrid can make it big time this season and become some of the greatest we have seen

 

lol.

 

They haven't impress me yet, in the same level as the Atletico.M, Dortmund, or Roma

 

*face palm* some of the revisionist history in here, and you guys are supposed to be the more informed football fans.

 

Holland were strong right through the late 80s to mid 00s.

 

TOP 5 Clubs
- Sacchi's/Capello's Milan
- Telé Santana's Sao Paulo
- Van Gaal's Ajax
- Ferguson's United as a long term team 1998-2010
- Guardiola's Barcelona

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- Barça's Dream team
- Bianchi's Boca
- Ancelotti's Milan
- Invincible Arsenal
- Galácticos Real Madrid
- Current-day Bayern

TOP 5 National Teams
- Germany 90-96
- Brazil 98-2002
- France 98-2000
- Holland 98-2000
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