a CROSS????

 

My stupid hunch would be:
Real means royal, from the royal family. A status which by many was believed to be god given.
Throw Jesus in the equation, since its traditionally a christian country and you get a cross

 

But I still see no cross!!!

Unless you mean the little thing at the top. Which would be part of the crown, that stands for the Real part.

 

a CROSS????

look at the top, a cross is there, if it is because of christ ... I don't know why non christians support real madrid.

 

you don't have to be so polarized, it is just a logo that was picked over 100 years ago
if it would be sociedad cristiana real madrid I would understand, but it is just real madrid
I am sure that Mallorca, Sociedad and Numancia might have it there also

 

I see it now, and it is part of the crown.

 

As you know there are many Spanish clubs that have the title of "Real" (Espanyol, Betis, Valladolid, Mallorca, Deportivo, Real Sociedad,...). To have this title, the club have to ask for permission to the Spanish King and he gives it to the club. The crown is the same crown that appears in the symbol of the monarchy and they're Catholics. The crown is the same for any club that has this symbol in the logo.

Should the non-Catholics support Real Madrid? It's up to them, but personally, I wouldn't be bothered for a religious symbol that has more to do with tradition than religion itself. Even if you are not Christian, I think that you shouldn't be bothered for the religion of others.

Spain is not more religious than any other country. We don't have an official religion, but it's silly to deny the Catholic tradition of this country. I'm not Christian nor is my family, but we still celebrate X-mas, because it's a tradition in Spain. The cross in the crown or the St. George cross in Barça's badge just incorporate old symbols of our history. It's not an offense, it's simply part of our history, independently of how religious you're.

 

quite a lot of clubs in the Premiera and Segunda Division have the crown with the cross in their logo:

Depor

Betis

mallorca

Saragoza

Sociedad

Espanyol

Santander

Numancia

Getafe, and so on

or crosses itself like:

Celta

Racing de Ferrol

many symbols also include churches like

Pontevedra

so the cross in the logo is nothing unusual in spain.

 

it is just a logo that was picked over 100 years ago

thats not quite true. RM was honored with the Royal title in 1920 by King Alfonso XIII, thats the first time the crown appears in the logo. The cross is part of the crown. But as you see the RM logo has developed quite a lot during the 103 years.

1902-1908 for official games

1920 for official games

http://www.realmadridfans.net/escudo.htm

 

lol u posted like 50 copies of the same picture. dude one pic of all logos were enough.

and the cross is symbolic, not literal. symbolic of royalty according to spanish culture.

which makes that american team stupid. real salt lake?

 

lol u posted like 50 copies of the same picture. dude one pic of all logos were enough.

and the cross is symbolic, not literal. symbolic of royalty according to spanish culture.

which makes that american team stupid. real salt lake?

yeah i realized that and edited. didnt see that it was only one pic together. And yes i know that the cross is symbolic. Just wanted to show how many clubs have it in their logo.

 

which makes that american team stupid. real salt lake?

It is... it doesn't make sense, but it's all marketing. They pretend to link themselves with a club that has a lot of tradition in Europe. Football is quite new in the US, they still have a long way to create rivalry, traditions and football culture and they have to create it by themselves, they can't import all this from here.

IMO, they should push to enter in Copa Libertadores in club level and Copa América in NT level. They would learn a lot facing international clubs and NTs.

 

Do USA teams get to play in Copa Libertadores? That is a first for me :googly:

 

Do USA teams get to play in Copa Libertadores? That is a first for me :googly:

No, as far as I know, but they should and considering the power of the US, if they want they can do it. Mexican clubs already play it.

 

look at the top, a cross is there, if it is because of christ ... I don't know why non christians support real madrid.

hahah..wat an idiot.. i cant believe he just said that.. dude u gotta get out a bit more..stop being so one dimensional

 

Funny, I was out drinking last night and saw highlights of the Real Salt lake match, there uniforms look like the Spanish National Team, make me wonder if Antonio Banderas ownes them

 

As you know there are many Spanish clubs that have the title of "Real" (Espanyol, Betis, Valladolid, Mallorca, Deportivo, Real Sociedad,...). To have this title, the club have to ask for permission to the Spanish King and he gives it to the club. The crown is the same crown that appears in the symbol of the monarchy and they're Catholics. The crown is the same for any club that has this symbol in the logo.

Should the non-Catholics support Real Madrid? It's up to them, but personally, I wouldn't be bothered for a religious symbol that has more to do with tradition than religion itself. Even if you are not Christian, I think that you shouldn't be bothered for the religion of others.

Spain is not more religious than any other country. We don't have an official religion, but it's silly to deny the Catholic tradition of this country. I'm not Christian nor is my family, but we still celebrate X-mas, because it's a tradition in Spain. The cross in the crown or the St. George cross in Barça's badge just incorporate old symbols of our history. It's not an offense, it's simply part of our history, independently of how religious you're.

nice post

even if it is a christrian symbol, how many of the players are christian? Does it really matter then?

 

even if it is a christrian symbol, how many of the players are christian?

most of them are christian ..... except zidane ..... then again didn't he marry a christian girl? :eekani:

 

I think Zidane is a muslim, but in Islam you can marry believing women from the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians). So it isn't controversial at all.

About the symbol on the club badge, I am not so sure. It's rather a cultural symbol than a religious sign, so it isn't really a big deal although I don't think people from other faiths are allowed to wear items that display the cross.

 

nice post

even if it is a christrian symbol, how many of the players are christian? Does it really matter then?

I guess that most of them are Christians, but I never thought that this little cross were a problem for anyone.

Many badges of the football clubs have added local and/or regional symbols to them. Most of these symbols have centuries of history and they get the old Catholic tradition of Spain. As I've said, I'm not Christian, but it would be idiot to deny our history and traditions and I think that noone should be offended by this.

 

thats not quite true. RM was honored with the Royal title in 1920 by King Alfonso XIII, thats the first time the crown appears in the logo. The cross is part of the crown. But as you see the RM logo has developed quite a lot during the 103 years.

Notice that the crown dissapears in the 1931 badge, during the Republic

 

Notice that the crown dissapears in the 1931 badge, during the Republic

roud:

 

Funny, I was out drinking last night and saw highlights of the Real Salt lake match, there uniforms look like the Spanish National Team, make me wonder if Antonio Banderas ownes them

I would have chosen a Brazilian jersey, the Spanish NT's shirt doesn't scare anyone. :wallbang:

Let me guess... did they pass 1/4 finals?

 

The cross on a royal crown is a commonly symbol and is present almost on every king's crown in european kingdoms. It shows the bound between the royal sovereigns and the Church and has absolutely nothing to do with catolicism in football.

 

religion is the root of all evils.. to me that is.. not tryin to enforce my view on others.. i cant believe people are tryin to discuss why theres a friggin cross on the madrid logo.. religion is the cause of all wars and deestructions..