beckham generates attention because he is fashionable, married to extremely famous singer and is higly marketable in this country. naturally he probably wouldn't get as much attention in italy or spain because he is truly an icon of english football.

on the pitch, he is committed, dedicated to training, friendly and a great leader. he is one of the best passers in the world, is the best crosser of the ball in the world and takes some of the best free kicks in the world. he also has a great ability to score goals from long distance and gives 110% most games. the goals he scored against west ham and deportivo were out of this world and there have been plenty more like that.

 

he is one of the best passers in the world, is the best crosser of the ball in the world and takes some of the best free kicks in the world.

I've seen him play before and I have to disagree
his free kicks are good i'll give you that
but his passes are not impressive and I highly doubt that he is the best crosser in the world
the greatest thing about beckham? he is highly marketable...
he is a good player, but he is overrated in my opinion

 

Agree with everything beefy has said. His Free-Kicks, Crossing, leadership and physical presence are immense. Admittedly he cannot head, tackle or beat people, but who cares when he is as good as he is at the things he's good at.

Guess you gotta watch him as much as beefy and myself and live in England to appreciate him

Different people from different nations and different styles of football will appreciate different things.

Beckham is more than just a footballer,he is a born leader

 

Beckham is a born leader? :rollani: I wonder what that makes of the truly great footballers who were the inspiration of their teams.

 

Beckham is England. Without Beckham, England would not have reached 2002 World Cup, he is a player all England looks too. Luckily we did and he played despite an Argentinian's (Duscher) attempts to 'do him'

 

if the beckham that was playing during and around that westham match and the matches afterwards was playing in the wolrdcup then England w/o doubt would have been in the semi-final ,he was unstoppable

 

if the beckham that was playing during and around that westham match and the matches afterwards was playing in the wolrdcup then England w/o doubt would have been in the semi-final ,he was unstoppable

I can say the same about ronaldo, zidane, figo and many others
the truth is that he was playing a world cup and it is harder than any european championship....
and btw, with beckham or without beckham, brazil was superior and i doubt that beckham could have decided that match by himself

 

Beckham folded under pressure - the whole world saw it!

if the beckham that was playing during and around that westham match and the matches afterwards was playing in the wolrdcup then England w/o doubt would have been in the semi-final ,he was unstoppable

The problem, of course, is that West Ham doesn't play the World Cup. Becks played two World Cups, and twice he folded under the pressure. He may be hot stuff against Middlesbrough but the biggest stage of all proved to be too demanding for the Spice Boy.

He wasn't very impressive throughout the WC, but against Brazil he simply wimped out, I' sorry to say. Watch Brazil's 1st goal: Its play began on a ball that was between Beckham and Roberto Carlos, and Beckham leaped away to avoid contact. Roberto Carlos was completely free and unmarked to set up the counterattack that equalised the score. It wasn't the only time on the game when Beckham escaped from the hustle; maybe the pressure was too much, he wasn't up to the job. He is a leader, yes, but not a hero. Take Owen for example - he's smaller than Beckham but goes for every ball. But of course, the cameras love the Spice Boy.

Sure, he's a good player, great at freekicks and a competent crosser. But placing him alongside Zidane and Rivaldo is a joke.

 

I wouldn't judge Beckham on his WC performances as he had just returned from an injury. In the previous WC he did chocke but he was supposedly put that behind him.

Anyway, he is a good player as far as crossing and passing is concerned and his free kicks and corners are great, but he offers little to the team apart from that. Leadership? Please.

He is very usefull player at creating chances but this is where his contribution stops and the odd goal he scores doesn't mean much, there are plenty of midfielders who score much more than Beckham and noone considers him one of the best players in the world.

He is a very good player, but the best or even close to that, he is not. Nor he will ever be cause he is not complete.

 

Hes a great crosser, corner taker and free kick taker. One of the elite few in these areas.


Cant run and cant head

A truly inspirational player, he lifts his teammates through his effort whether hes playing for MU or England, so in that regard hes a fantastic leader by deed.

A marquee player, hes a clubs marketing wet dream.




In regards to that carlos challenge at the WC, lets not forget beckhams foot was still recovering. His courage cannot be questioned I think

For mine all things considered strengths and weaknesses, Id place him somewhere up the top echelon without being in the very elite.

 

In regards to that carlos challenge at the WC, lets not forget beckhams foot was still recovering. His courage cannot be questioned I think

That's a sore-loser excuse for a player of Beckham's supposed class! Many players were still recovering or just got injured from this WC. Kahn for example, injured his finger during the final but refused to use that as an excuse for his mistake. That's true class. Also if Beckham truly wasnt fit, why on earth was he playing? Rui Costa, for example, asked to be dropped from the starting lineup in the Poland-Portugal match because he believed wasnt fit to play. That's courage.

 

Whose a sore loser?

He never made the excuse, I merely pointed out that I believe he pulled out of the challenge b/c of a ginger foot, hes not the type of player to EVER pull out of a 50/50 challenge and if any1 thinks this is not the case then they obviously dont see him play................. he had a broken foot 6 weeks earlier u understand? thats not a lack of fitness, or a muscle strain but a bone that is barely healed, now thats courage and if u cant appreciate it thats ure opinion but its pretty unrealistic.

 

...Guess you gotta watch him as much as beefy and myself and live in England to appreciate him...

Guess you gotta watch football, both English AND non-English, as much as some of us and get out more to realize Beckham really isn't all that great!!! :howler:

 

But as people have said, don't judge a team/player on a WC or you'd believe that Germany were decent (I don't call Group E, Paraguay, USA and Korea decent)

Oh and we get Italian, Spanish, German and French footie (Mainly on satellite here) and quite frankly the German league is boring (apart from Leverkusen) so you can hardly throw that in.

I bet if one of your sides bought Becks today, you'd be well happy or if he was Italian/Brazilian this thread wouldn't have even started.

Oh and Brazil won the WC, they were the best team, but let's be honest, it was the poorest quality WC ever.

 

...I bet if one of your sides bought Becks today, you'd be well happy or if he was Italian/Brazilian this thread wouldn't have even started...

I bet if one of my sides had Beckham and he wasn't English, you'd have never known him! :howler::howler::howler:

 

? How can you judge someone you don't know. I follow World Football on all levels, but then i have nothing to prove to you.

 

? How can you judge someone you don't know. I follow World Football on all levels, but then i have nothing to prove to you.

Sure, I'll take your word for it. :howler:

 

My My, your a judgemental litte charachter aren't ya

 

Whose a sore loser?

He never made the excuse, I merely pointed out that I believe he pulled out of the challenge b/c of a ginger foot, hes not the type of player to EVER pull out of a 50/50 challenge and if any1 thinks this is not the case then they obviously dont see him play................. he had a broken foot 6 weeks earlier u understand? thats not a lack of fitness, or a muscle strain but a bone that is barely healed, now thats courage and if u cant appreciate it thats ure opinion but its pretty unrealistic.

"Sore-loser" might be too harsh - I appologize However, my point was only that I believe everyone including Beckham himself thought he was *fit enough* to play. Now, in my mind, hardly any world-class players can ever be 100% fit because of the pressure and the number of games they have to play. But a fit enough world-class player should still be able to shine compared to the rest of the squad. And if one doesn't, like in the case of Beckham in the WC, then I think it's a good indication that he doesn't quite deserve the ravings he gets all the time. Finally, IF Beckham truly wasn't fit enough but still insisted to play, I don't think that's courage. On the contrary, that's reckless.

 

Steven Gerrard said that he could have played in the WC but he didnt want to be so selfish

 

beckham only started half of the games in the frabce'98. he scored as amazing free kick against the columbian keeper mondragon and he was great against argentina, but a stupid mistake, for which he was unfairly sent off. but hey, that's football.:depress:

if you're going to blame anyone for rivaldo's goal against england in the world cup, blame scholes, as he lost the ball foolishly to ronaldinho in the centre circle.

beckham may not be the most vocal of captains, but he leads by example and leads extremely well IMO. the ammount of time he voluntarily soends on the training pitch is highly commendable and his in-game committment is virtually second to none.

there aren't many other players in the world that can consistantly score goals like beckham does, play as many matches, maintain a high standard of play, cross the ball on a sixpence and play cross-field balls with pin-point accuracy. name me a player that can do all of these consistantly and to the same high standard.

admittedly beckham can't head very well and he's not an outstanding dribbler, but he excels as several major skills and performs them to a consistantly high standard week in, week out, and that's why IMO he is undoubtedly world class.

 

i don't know a whole lot about this soccer game but heard about all the jive b.s. go on about this beckham guy from a buddy of mine over in the orient. now i don't now how in the hell anyone can be so caught about some finger-painting ****** - no matters how good he can kick some ball around. and it just don't make no sense to me why this kind of wussy can get hitched with some fine looking spice girl. seem to me she have no problem finding a real man.

 

hey beefy like your name man. one of my roamies is named beefy - big bro though i tell u what!

 

Beckham is a fantastic passer and crosser of of the ball, both long and short. Possessed with a ferocious shot, he is a set piece expert and scorer of spectacular goals, His skills are the result of long hours spent honing his free-kicks and crossing to perfection.

Beckham has created a new type of wing play, no running and dribbling is necessary for he can bypass defenders with a lethal cross into the box


Passing/Creativity - Beckham is probably the best in the world at hitting long, defence-splitting passes. From the centre of midfield or out on the wings, his pinpoint crosses are deadly ammo for United's forwards. The variety and range of his passing is quite phenomenal.


Shooting - The fact he once scored from the half way line shows his shooting accuracy. Beckham is probably the best taker of a free kick in the world.

Stamina - In the world of football, few players can equal Beckham's exceptional reserves of stamina and physical fitness. He is constantly running and moving, full of tireless energy right to the final whistle.

Can be neutralised - Clever deployment of wing backs with left-sided midfielders can sometimes prevent him getting those crosses in and stop his passing game




he is world class

 

OK, fellas, really no need for these long-winded comments. Everybody knows Beckham is second to none. Why? Here goes...

As a player, Beckham is the best since Pele. As a person, he is the purest since Mother Teresa. As a businessman, he is the most astute since Jack Welch.

Oh, I almost forgot... he can walk on water too!

So, Ant, does this answer your question now?

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