Your opinion mate. I'd say their qualities are different, but they make for a world class duo together. They compliment eachother well.

Overall though, Vidic is the better defender. Many people on these boards seem to think Rio got Vidic to his current level and yet they don't realise that he was already close to being world class at age 20, still playing for Red Star. Made his debut for the NT in a qualifier away to Italy and actually pretty easily shut down Inzaghi and Del Piero in that match and has been doing the same ever since, without Rio.

The man has been a leader wherever he went. Scored important headers, always took penalties for his sides (something most don't know) and acted like a true pro on and off the pitch.

Now onto Man Utd this season, I don't think you can argue that Rio was more important than Vida, who was the backbone of the not conceded run Man Utd made earlier this year. Also, he's scored important headers and as a defender is actually topping the bookie charts for being this years' best player in the Premier League. So I believe a few people agree with me.

Not taking anything away from Rio, who is world class and has been on this level for a while now, Vida is better at positioning, heading, making interceptions, tackling, is the more aggressive defender, is an attacking threat as well and is stronger. Now I'll go onto why the compliment eachother, Rio is a better passer (although Vida's not as bad as many make him out to be), is better on the ball, quicker and is good in dropping behind Vida, acting as a sweeper, allowing Nemanja to battle it out.

Overall, this season Vida is better, Rio has of course had a more impressive career so far and wins it if we look at the long run. But age is also on Nemanja's side, so there's room for even more success. At the end of the day though, this defensive duo is the best on the planet and we can all envy Man Utd for it.

 

They're totally different to each other, Rio's laid back, never really slides in for a tackle, hardly ever gets booked

Vidic clears the ball into row-Z, most of the time, a no-nonsense defender

great to have them both at United.

 

Do leave off Rio orchestrates that defence. He is the conductor. Without him it is ****ed :smileani:

Very good duo together though.

 

He does and he does it well, but so does Nemanja.

Nemanja's been orchestrating defensive set ups since he got started in this beautiful game. Captain at Red Star, leader at Spartak and the most commanding defender the Serbian NT has had in decades and look at our group standings, we're doing it without Rio so far. p

Also, in that 14 match run, I believe Vida did a reasonable job of orchestrating, wouldn't you say?

 

Gary

 

Yeah he's done well but Rio is still top dog in there reckon.

 

Anyone that says Rio/Vidic by a mile is a fool and should not be taken seriously. They are both great players that compliment each other perfectly. Without Vidic, Rio can look shakey (it's no coincidence he played like crap from 2004-2005 and since then has regained his status as one of the world's best since Vidic has been his partner), and without Rio, Vidic is not the same player either.


Vidic has had a monster year and should be a leading candidate for EPL POTY.

 

Both are great defenders though but this season Vidic has been immense and despite one bad game vs Liverpool has been the best player in the league.

He also marshalls the Serbian defence brilliantly and has played with 5 different partners since September. Once he has a stable partner next to him (this is key to any defence) then he'll probably look even better in defence.

It's no coincidence that we went from conceding 1 goal in 10 games with Vidic to 10 goals in 3 games without him during the WC 2006 campaign.

 

I think you berate Vidic when you say "Rio by a mile" -

Vidic isn't a leader just yet, but he has the attributes to become one in the future. Okay he has his moments - but at the end of the day this is all part of experience. I still think him and Rio are the top defenders in the world right now.

 

Vidic isn't a leader just yet, but he has the attributes to become one in the future. Okay he has his moments - but at the end of the day this is all part of experience. I still think him and Rio are the top defenders in the world right now.

Vidic is 27 years old. If he isn't a leader now, he will never be. Having said that, I'll probably slightly edge towards Vidic as the better defender, there isn't much in it though.

 

So you are saying Vidic is more important?

mmm interesting.

 

Actually that's not what I said (or meant).

But I'd like to ask you something, why is this question important to you? What are you trying to prove or conclude here?

To answer your question, if I had to choose, I'd say Rio is more important - he's the captain, has alot of experience, is a real leader and fighter on the pitch, and someone who's presence on the pitch is important in the Man United lineup

 

Rio, more of a leader.

I love those classy defenders like him and Nesta.

 

As a player, I think Vidic is the better defender. More ability. Rio is more of an organizer and has great importance, but I love Nemanja's natural ability. Great athlete.

 

How do you rate Vidic in comparison to Pepe?

 

Rio is more important, but the whole point here is that they compliment each other very well.

 

For another thread. Money would be on Vidic to win any poll against Pepe :tongue:

 

I agree, Vidic would likely win a poll. Given the level of football intelligence on this board, that wouldn't really mean much though. p

 

They are both great together. But individually i'd rather have Vidic on my team.

 

poll

 

Why this is in the World football forum?

like we don't have EPL already all over tv, radio and now even the internet. :ass:

 

Why not? There's plenty of these kinda threads about, just so happens these two play for the same club.

 

Missed this thread completely but Krle basically summed the whole thing up.

Whoever thinks that Vidic isn't a leader is blind, he lead the United defence almost single-handedly for 14 games in a row with as Dule mentioned many different defensive partners.

A guy on another forum made this interpretation:

Here is a simple analogy: A CAR!

A car has an engine, it is very important. It also has a tire, which it also can't go without.
HOWEVER, one would much more easily replace a tire, than the engine. Rio being the tire, of course.

 

Missed this thread completely but Krle basically summed the whole thing up.

Whoever thinks that Vidic isn't a leader is blind, he lead the United defence almost single-handedly for 14 games in a row with as Dule mentioned many different defensive partners.

A guy on another forum made this interpretation:

Oh come on. I know you Serbs like to talk your players up but all this "Vidic did this single handedly, Vidic did that single handedly etc etc blah, blah, blah"...

I'm always for talking up Manchester United players, but there comes a point when it just gets silly. During that 14 game run, United did not have a particularly tough schedule. For the most part we played teams which like to sit back and defend in the hope of getting a draw. Did Vidic do well during that run? Yes. Did he do it single handedly or lead the defence single handedly? No.

That record belongs to the likes of Ronaldo, Berbatov, Rooney, Tevez, Giggs, Fletcher, etc as much as it does to Vidic. They were the ones defending from the front, they were the ones making the opposition scared of coming out of their own half in case they gave too much space to the United attackers. So while Vidic does deserve praise let's not go over the top about it.

And that utter drivel you've quoted from another forum... "Vidic is the engine and Rio is a tire that can easily be replaced" Not only am I embarrassed for you that you've taken the time to quote and post it, I'm quite embarrassed for you that you've taken it in.

 

They compliment eachother perfectly. There aren't many players in the world in the air like he does. He is also very smart and flies into tackles. Top defender who only lacks pace. Ferdinand is a very smart footballer. He likes to intercept the ball before having to make a tackle and is speed lets him do this. He doesn't know like to make crunching tackles which is what Vidic is all about. Great pairing.

 

Vidic isn't slow though. He's not as quick as Rio or Cannavaro but he's no slouch. His distribution is also very underrated. Some of his passse were brilliant last night.

 

Hilarious nonsense about Vidic singlehandedly leading United's defense to the 14 game record.

They are great together, but both have glaring weaknesses apart. I'd rather have Vidic because i think Rio would be easier to replace.

Pure comedy above as someone mentions Pepe in a discussion about great defenders!

 

Pure comedy above as someone mentions Pepe in a discussion about great defenders!

Pepe=Portuguese, Poster=Portuguese.

and there you have it.

 

Vidic is a better defender. Rio reads the game better and is quicker but he's a lot easier to replace the Vidic.

 

I think you can play Rio and Evans. You can't play Vidic and Evans though. That says it all.

EDIT: See Porto @ OT (Vidic / Evans), United @ Inter (Rio / Evans)

 

Ferdinand, easy.

 

Simply put, Ferdinand.

 

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