So what's your point, eh? He shouldn't voice his opinion on certain matters, because of his/his team's disciplinary problems in the past?

Wenger's an honest man (most of the time: when it counts :thumbsup, who just gave an honest response to a journalist's question.

A question with the sole intention of creating this type of pointless debate. You fell for it, unless you're being ironic?

 

I didn't fall for it, Wenger did.

If Scholes has a dark side, could you name a player that suffered a serious injury from a Scholes tackle?

I too assumed that Scholes was reckless in his younger days, but the truth is that his timing is woeful, he tackles like a center forward (his original position) but he's an honest lad overall my friend.

And Wenger's not being honest here, it's one of his oldest tricks. Same thing he tried with Fletcher last season i.e. put a player under the microscope of the officials for the rest of the season. He's not a pundit or a retired professional, his comments are timed to disrupt opponents hence why Mourinho rightly outed him as Voyeur.

 

Wenger in completely true and rational comments shocker.

 

I don't buy that and I'll tell why.

I hardly recall seeing Scholes diving, that's a dark side too, right? Cheating that is.

I hardly recall Scholes committing a professional foul to stop a team with a good scoring opportunity. Cynical play shows a dark side, right?

To take one aspect of a player's game that's his main weakness to represent something about the said player - is beneath true gentleman.

Nobody but Wenger would have made those comments, not Ancelotti, not Redknapp, not Hodgson. It would not be borne out of some irreverence to Scholes but they know better than to misrepresent a true professional and servant of the game in the last 20 years.

 

He's right. Scholes shouldn't be allowed to play anymore... Man Utd mafia protected him all his career.

 

... even in the Champions league, World Cup's and Euros?

 

The point with Scholes' tackling is that it's something you would expect from an inexperienced youngster. They can get away with it because they're at an age where it's ok to be clumsy every now and then, it's all part of the process. Along the way you either learn to tackle or you learn to not do it any more because you suck at it. Scholes is 35 but he still hasn't learned and there's no way in hell it should still be called clumsy because he very well knows what he's doing.

 

That's your perception and it amounts to nothing!

He would have been receiving red cards, right, left, center but he didn't.

If your argument is: Scholes makes dirty tackles but the officials let him off because he's Paul Scholes, then this argument warrants nothing but derision.

What makes him special, or grants him this unique exemption which other other players are subjected to?

@ the video: United were losing in the final and he lost his head. (Ironic too considering that it was Peek-a-poo on the receiving end) Almost every single player has a moment like that. We're emotional creatures after all, by that token Zidane was a dirty player too?

 

Scholes is too fair (skin) to have a dark side.

 

He may not have the intention but he's reckless, which is also bad. But there's something about Scholes (or maybe it was that tackle on Busquets) which makes me think he's just a nice lad. :hopeful:

Wenger has a point but he went too far by saying he has a dark side. Way to ham it up. Get off the stage! :thmbdown:

 

Scholes does fly into tackles and he is shocking at it.

I think Scholes is a bit of a dirty player but people don't realise it with the beauty of his play with the ball.

He definetly though is one of the worst tacklers in the Premier League, and he is getting worse he gets slower

 

The Boss fires back!

Sir Alex Ferguson angered by Arsenal manager's remarks about Paul Scholes

• Oldest feud in football management resumes


Sir Alex Ferguson is unhappy with Arsène Wenger’s remarks about Paul Scholes. Sir Alex Ferguson's improved relationship with Arsène Wenger reverted back to type last night, when the Manchester United manager accused his old adversary of disrespecting Paul Scholes. The Scot is unhappy about Wenger's description of the midfielder as having "a dark side", the Arsenal manager's comments provoking the kind of withering response that used to epitomise one of the oldest feuds in football management.

"I don't know why Arsène Wenger said that," Ferguson said. "It is very easy to look into the dark side of any player. I could say the same about one of the Arsenal players in particular, but I don't need to do that. He [Wenger] should focus on the strengths and abilities [of Scholes] and the contribution he has made to English football over an 18-year period, because it is phenomenal."

He would not name the Arsenal player he was talking about, but added: "If you are talking about someone with the ability and performance levels of Paul Scholes, you know he is not the best tackler – but he has not injured anyone in his time here."

You're absolutely right, Sir Alex. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

He should name this hooligan hiding amongst Arsenal's first 11. There's no reason to extend gentlemanly curtsey with Voyeurs.

 

He should name this hooligan hiding amongst Arsenal's first 11. There's no reason to extend gentlemanly curtsey with Voyeurs.

It's Vieira! There, you happy?

Voyeurs are human, too. You're being way too Jodie Harsh.

 

Van Persie it is...

 

"Peek-a-poo"

:howler:

 

Eboue is also a thuggish ****.

 

I hate Scholes as much as the next ABU but Wenger continues to prove himself an amazing hypocrite.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/15/arsene-wenger-arsenal-abou-diaby

"I love the English game but people are more interested in controversy than protecting the players. Why should I create another story? You asked me how the tackle was and it was bad. But I don't know if my views are taken seriously. Diaby has been injured from an unfair tackle. I've watched it 10 times and it is an unfair tackle. But people just think I'm protecting my players by saying that and that I have a [vested] interest.

Wenger's players have been guilty of similarly ugly challenges, not least when Bolton's Mark Davies was seriously injured by William Gallas last season. "Don't get me wrong – sometimes my players commit bad fouls. Yet the beauty of the game is down to the fact that you play with commitment, with passion but also with the right intention. If you have a good sliding tackle where the player takes the ball, it's as good to see as a player scoring a goal. But when a guy closes his eyes and jumps with anger it's not right.

:rollani:

 

Wenger :thumbsup:

 

Wenger is a hypocritical arsehole.

 

Oh come on, don't you know 'Wenger loves the physical side of the English game'. :howler:

I think that's the usual disclaimer before he goes off on one of his rants.

 

Well in all truth he is right though. Its as if people laugh about what he says until another Arsenal player gets a broken leg and then they are all sitting there with a dreary face in shock for a couple weeks before saying Wenger is a hypocritical arsehole again.

 

The problem is he has more red cards under his stewardship than all the other teams he points fingers at, only Everton and I think it was Blackburn have had more in his era.

He hasn't really gone for tough tackling players, but he has gone for nutters who like to randomly lash out. At least the bad tackles are because they're actually trying to get the ball.

And other teams suffer injuries too, you just don't seem to account for it because they don't go around finger pointing and saying the world is against them like Wenger does. Did you see Fergie come out and point fingers after Valencia got injured? Most bad injuries are accidental, they kick each other much more in the championship yet broken legs aren't the norm. And the idea Arsenal get special treatment because they're so pure in the football arts is just ridiculous, especially with Wengers record.

 

He does go over the top though at times.

There was an instance in the Sunderland game yesterday when Sagna was taken out on the touchline. It wasn't even that bad a challenge, a bit late maybe and more a coming together of both players. Wenger marched over from the dugout and stood right over the players indicating that a really bad tackle had taken place and that wasn't really the case.

He needs to calm down a bit over all this.

 

Of course not but in 2 years Arsenal had 3 dangling broken legs. That used to not even happen once a year in the EPL. I agree Wenger goes over the top but the point is there. Arsenal do get alot of reds but mostly for stupid sh1t rather than dangerous tackles.

 

They do, they need to drink more milk.

 

Ramsey's leg snapped in 2 (for example) is nothing to be sarcastic about

 

Arsene need to stop do talking with his mouth, and start performing with his dick:thmbdown:

football players doesnt deserve bullshit from so called professionals on top of the the crap they suffer from the inbreds that always seem to seat themselves's behind the corner staffs
:thumbsup:

 

Arsene need to stop do talking with his mouth, and start performing with his dick:thmbdown:

Gaaaaaayyyyyyyyy

 

i meant to do his talking on the field through the results his team makes

 

LL, have you seen when he stamped Håkan mild? I couldn't find a youtube clip on it, but it was one of the worst attacks I seen from one player on another.

 

It's at 0:23 in this clip.

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