[VERDI]

New reports about Parma and Lazio to have agreed on a deal for Thuram. It's ***** + money. The deal would be worth $48M, but the question is, how much is ***** valued at? If the original $25M + ***** is true, ***** would be valued at $23M. Surely that can't be true? It must be something like $35M + *****.

It's not a bad deal in any way, the only problem is that it shows that we're not willing to compete with the biggest spenders in the game and that's too bad. And that we sell another of our stars to Lazio is intolerable. My patience is running out. Why strengthen Lazio of all teams? This can only be a sign that Tanzi is satisfied with being second best...

BTW, Juventus are rumoured to have offered a straight cash deal. They are willing to pay $32M for him. To me the Lazio deal sounds like a more generous proposition, of course depending on how much they value ***** at...

 

[cytyx]

Agreement Lazio-Parma for Lilian Thuram



Lazio and Parma reached an agreement for the transfer of Lilian Thuram to Lazio. In fact, Sergio Cragnotti is ready to offer cash and Paolo ***** to sign the Frenchman. After all, ***** already said that he wants to leave the reigning Italian champions. The whole transfer will cost Lazio $48m. However, the club has to reach an agreement with the player now, who has offers from Juventus, Real Madrid and Manchester United. Meanwhile, the player met Lazio's fans to discuss about racism problems.



I cannot believe that Thuram would choose Lazio over teams like Juventus, Real Madrid and Manchester United, since Thuram said he wants to win important League trophies (known as scudetto in Italy), plus of the racism of some of the Lazio fans... I don't think Lazio will win a scudetto again in a very long time because of the way Lazio won the scudetto last year: Juventus had to f**k up big time at the end so Lazio could with a last breath win it in the end, that is Lazio won it in a not very convincingly way and because the top team screwed big time, otherwise Lazio would not have won it. Were teams like Real Madrid, Juventus and Manchester United are big teams with tradition and history, teams that are very likely to win League trophies (Scudetti) in the future, unlike Lazio.

 

[Guest]

Quiz: Which is the only team challenging for Scudetto in every of last 3 years?

 

[VERDI]

Cragnotti is thinking about selling the club... You're screwed!

Lazio in Serie B!

 

[VERDI]

And now http://www.optasoccer.com reports that ManUre think that they can sign Lilian for £15M. I don't know if I should laugh or cry. That's ridiculously low. But that's how it is. British media ALWAYS sets the prices way too low, just because they never rate any player who doesn't play in the EPL. That reporter has probably just seen Thuram play twice. The World Cup final and the Euro final...

BTW, some other english crap site claimed that ManUre was going to buy Conceicao for £6M... Which IMO isn't even half of what he's worth.

 

[cam]

Verdi, wanna grab sum money & buy Lazio from Crag? We could then turn them into Parma's B side instead of us into theirs . Hope you find that you are related to the Nepalese Royal Family & inherit their vast fortune

 

[cytyx]

Quiz: Which is the only team challenging for Scudetto in every of last 3 years?

*Challenging* is something VERY different from actually WINNING it... Man U, Juventus and Real Madrid have won League Titles (Scudetti) WAY MANY MANY MANY MORE times that the 2 scudetti Lazio have won in their history and Man U, Juventus and Real Madrid will continue to win WAY MANY MANY MANY MORE Scudetti than Lazio in the future, so if Thuram leaves Parma he should go to a BIG team like Man U, Juventus and Real Madrid and NOT to a team like Lazio....

 

[VERDI]

If I had enough money I would buy Lazio, sell ALL their best players, let them drop to Serie C1 and then sell the club...

Hmmm... I think I will drop Bill Gates a call now and tell him about my cunning plan...

 

[Kafka]

That's what too many Black Adders can do...

 

[Mare]

I like both teams (Lazio and Parma)

I don't want to get involved in any argument

I just think that Thuram would be great for Lazio

And in return Parma get a good defender (*****) and some :greed:

 

[Crespo9]

So you want to stregnthen Juve then, another direct rival?
I have not heard anything about this since I have not read anything on the net today, but I have seen topics all over the place that seem serious. If this is true, I don't see what the big deal is VERDI. What is the difference if Lazio buys the Parma players each off-season or if several different teams do? It's just transfers.

If you sell players to different teams, that's business.
That's very normal. But if you continue to sell players
to the same team with very low price, that's totally
insane!

 

[Crespo9]

Actually Cragnotti-Tanzi are agreeing on good deals ....
And Obviously Tanzi (and other ppl) Don't count Parma as a Challenger for Lo SCUDDETO...(and thta's what VERDI saying)..
But let's face it Cragnotti has been doing some BIG OFFERS...And let's not forget that Tanzi is trying his best to try and Replace the players who are being sold...
HE tried Ro Bring Salas ( Cragnotti agreed ) Salas Refused ( probably for the reason I mentioned above ) .. and Who thought Cocneicao wouldn't fit in.. and who Though ( After his Great performances ) that Amoroso will turn out to be a flop...??
I realize u being PISSED OFF with Tanzi .. but Let's face it...
Cragnotti Has more Money Than Tanzi... and tanzi is doing his Best...Yes he's selling the players...But he is bringing great players too...
And IMO...
The Players who were sold + Thuram are the main reason of being sold...
and I think that Tanzi is trying to Make a squad like Deportivo's ( NO SUPERSTARS But looks at them! ) ...
and About the Rasicm....
I don't think Lazio Fans would dear to boo Thuram if he Becomes A Laziale ...
AFTERALL just opinions..

What are you saying! Tanzi is toing his best?
If Tanzi wants to get something by selling Thuram
from Lazio, why not get Nedved or Inzaghi? *****
is not only very low level but also a player as old
as Thuram. Do you think this is really an acceptable
deal for Lazio? Do you think any team like to sell
its best players only to get some bench players who
can never be trusted?

 

[IL TORO]

To make the comparison complete would be you guys lettig go of Nesta, Nedved and Crespo getting Iuliano, O'Neill and Pippo + money in return.
Hardly a nice proposition for either of you, regardless of the fact that it's "only transfers".
Ciao.

Not quite Glen, none of the Parma players we have ever bought compare anywhere near to what Nesta means to Lazio, and if we get Thuram it will still not be the same.

You saying we got Crespo for a low price Crespo9? What is your idea of big money then?

 

[VERDI]

I think Glen spoke about the quality of the players, not what they mean and don't mean to the club. Crespo was a huge favourite with the fans and actually is our all time top goalscorer. He "just" spent four seasons with us but since he came so young we really considered him a symbol of ours. He made his name at Parma. That's not too different to Signori himself. He spent 5 seasons (+ a few games) at Lazio. Only one more season to what Crespo did at Parma. So yes, I think it's safe to say that we all were very attached to Hernan. But, unlike Beppe, Crespo still had his best years in front of him when he left. We had just started to harvest our investment in him. Veron we lost after only one season. I guess you could compare that to losing Crespo to Inter this summer. That would also hurt, right? And finally losing Thuram can be considered to be for us what losing Nedved would be to you. Thuram is even our captain right now and he's given us 5 world class seasons.

So come back when Inter have bough Nedved, Veron and Crespo or something...

 

[Crespo9]

To make the comparison complete would be you guys lettig go of Nesta, Nedved and Crespo getting Iuliano, O'Neill and Pippo + money in return.
Hardly a nice proposition for either of you, regardless of the fact that it's "only transfers".
Ciao.

Not quite Glen, none of the Parma players we have ever bought compare anywhere near to what Nesta means to Lazio, and if we get Thuram it will still not be the same.

You saying we got Crespo for a low price Crespo9? What is your idea of big money then?

The deal of Crespo is an acceptable one for Parma.
But the deal of Veron and Sensini was damned stupid.
If this rumor about Thuram is true, it's definately
another stupid one. What makes me angry is other than
that. It seems that although other teams have provided
better offers for Thuram, why does Tanzi like to sell
Thuram for $25,000,000 and a ***** who is totally unuseful?

 

[Crespo9]

I think Glen spoke about the quality of the players, not what they mean and don't mean to the club. Crespo was a huge favourite with the fans and actually is our all time top goalscorer. He "just" spent four seasons with us but since he came so young we really considered him a symbol of ours. He made his name at Parma. That's not too different to Signori himself. He spent 5 seasons (+ a few games) at Lazio. Only one more season to what Crespo did at Parma. So yes, I think it's safe to say that we all were very attached to Hernan. But, unlike Beppe, Crespo still had his best years in front of him when he left. We had just started to harvest our investment in him. Veron we lost after only one season. I guess you could compare that to losing Crespo to Inter this summer. That would also hurt, right? And finally losing Thuram can be considered to be for us what losing Nedved would be to you. Thuram is even our captain right now and he's given us 5 world class seasons.

So come back when Inter have bough Nedved, Veron and Crespo or something...

I want to add some comments. For last season, Crespo
was the person who struggled all through the hard season.
Many Parma fans wished him to be the leader of Parma.
So it's very frustrating to sell him. Therefore, even
$54,000,000 was not too much.
Now Thuram is more important than Nedved. He is obvious one
of three or four best defenders in the world, and even
slightly better than Nesta. Although he is 29, that's not
too old for a defender. We all know how old Baresi was and
how old Ferrara is. Thuram can easily play excellently
until he is 33 or 34. On the contrary, ***** was always
the worst part in Lazio's defenders. We want to win
Champion with Big Three. Yet Tanzi is giving up by
GIVING Thuram to Lazio. That hurts me deeply.

 

[Guest]

I don't agree with you that Thuram is better than Nesta.
And also I don't agree ***** is totally unuseful.He wasn't a member of Azzurri Euro2000 team for nothing.Yet we keep him playing at the wrong position, he's a centre-back, not a right-back.He had one bad season, but I'm sure he'll come back, in Lazio or elsewhere.

 

[AMOROSO!]

Thuram is better than Nesta.

As for *****,he is a good player.But he is not better than Laursen and he is not even close to Thuram.

 

[Guest]

Paglia: "We have an agreement for Thuram" Posted June 9, 2001 - 12:01 by Mattias

Guido Paglia, who yesterday revealed that Cragnotti could leave Lazio, speaks again today about the situation between fans and club. The responsible of the Cirio group also reveals that Lazio and Parma have found an agreement for Thuram

Paglia: "In this moment there is some tension for the Nedved case and Cragnotti is unhappy and depressed about the reaction from a part of the fans. The problem is that Lazio is on the stock market and we have to end the season with a certain balance."

Paglia about Lazio's ideas about transfers: "We have many ideas, first we thought about selling Salas and Veron, but the offers have so far not been enough. We are evaluating the offers, also for Nedved, and neither in that case we have received an offer that is good enough."

Paglia about Thuram: "We have found an agreement with Parma for Lilian Thuram. Now the talks will start with the player, because without his approval the transfer can't go through."

 

[AMOROSO!]

Well,it was expected that Lazio would agreed with Parma as Tanzi always gives up.But convincing Thuram will be the hard part...