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Pre season 2008/2009 refit

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#1 ·
I think most forumites would agree a few changes need to be made, cut out a bit of the dead weight and reform the squad. Suggest away people!

Liverani OUT

Vieri - all depends on wages with this one. I wouldn't mind him around in a coaching capacity for the young'uns. However, I doubt he plans to retire or downpace his career and therefore thinks he can still command a sizable pay packet. If so, OUT.

Uja OUT. Nobody wants it to happen except him. Disappointing, but thems the breaks.

Barzagli IN. More than ever do we need him in.
 
#2 · (Edited)
Liverani, Santana, Semioli, Potenza, Pasqual all out.

Vieri and Ujfalusi too if they can't find new motivation.

We have too many forwards who don't play. Bring one or too capable in and get rid of those who won't make it in the squad.

Defence obviously needs reinforcements to support Gamberini. Dainelli should stay as a backup.

It'll be a very interesting summer to see who stays and who won't.
 
#7 ·
and why not prandeli too? we didnt win the 3 most importand games of the season so it must be his fault too....:rollani:

how much ungratefulness is there in this ****ing world? How pathetic can some fans be??i really cant believe it:confused:

and liverani out so easily ? the only one in the team(at least untill montolivo started to play good) that knows how to make a decent pass
those who are looking for his contribution should start for yesterday match...he contributed 2 3 goals
 
#4 ·
absoultely Vieri out! we don't need old ppl in our team

and yeah we need great defence and Danelli has to be out too

If Ufo will move, then we should have a great player to take him place!

However, some of the players that I think we need like Frey!

If Frey goes, I don't think we will servive without him!!
 
#5 ·
Vieri - definitely OUT
Liverani - OUT. I haven't seen any contribution from him this season
Semioli - OUT. Haven't noticed he has played at all.
Santana - probably OUT. He is technically good but ...
Kroldrup - OUT. Defender has to know what is marking.
 
#6 ·
I'd keep Semioli, well he had bad injury, but some months ago he seemed an interesting guy. He will prove he was worh buying.

Out for me: Bobo, Ufo, Pasqual, Dainelli, maybe also Osvaldo and/or Papa, who knows what with Lupoli who isn't shining in Serie B.

In: Barzagli would be fine, Dossena as replacement of Pasqual, new power forward?, some skilled guy for midfield or side, maybe Jovetic that is?, Comotto as another side defender.

The lineup:

1st team:
Frey
Jorgensen, Gamberini, Barzagli, Dossena
Montolivo, Donadel
Semioli, Mutu, XXX
Pazzini (or XXX)

Reserves:
Viviano?
Comotto, Di Costa, Kroldrup/Dainelli, Gobbi
Kuzmanovic, Melo
Jovetic, Lupoli, Osvaldo
Cacia
 
#8 ·
I'm not sure about Liverani. I like the guy, not the quickest one, but indeed, he has fantastic feet. However, if the Melo* rumour is true, and we are going to play more 4-2-3-1 than 4-3-3, then I fear there wouldn't be enough space for all Montolo, Melo and Liverani.

*I actually don't know almost nothing about Melo's qualities, but once we acquire him, I believe (or rather pray...) he has to have required quality.
 
#9 ·
I dont say that he will be the n1 starter of next season...
I m just surprised from how easily is on everybody out list.

i mean ,in the topic starter post there is liverani out without excuse and he would discuss ABOUT KEEPING VIERI!!!!!!!!Τhat piece of crap .
I would personally keep him for just one reason.

If a miracle happens(wich i really dont believe) and we go on cl i would like him in a match fom 1 to 90 so i cant see how many kms will have with that nice graphic they have in cl!!!!
If the average is 8 or 9 i doubt that he will pass 3 !!!
And i m serious...the man is a pathetic indiferent walker

In general we are a slow team ,we need fast players.
Jovetic from what i read is fast

anyway how come you have gobbi out?he was the surprise of the year maybe
for me he will be a starter for sure

semioli ...hmm i dont know
we waited 5 months for him to make some decent games.
now after his injury i think he returned to september again,if we have to wait that long again...
 
#10 ·
Haha :howler:
I have Gobbi in my mind set as reserve player maybe. But honestly, it's way too clear he wasn't born a left back, I often find find him out of position. However as you say, he is having very good season this year. Still ideally, I'd prefer on form Pasqual to start on the left, unfortunately the kid wearing 23 is a fake one nowadays. On the other side Dossena impressed me for Udinese this season, so if we took him, and he kept his form, I can see him being a starter.

Semioli hard to say, I'd give him another year. Above all if Santana leaves to England, we better keep one more winger.
 
#13 ·
Ok both people have a point -

Mutu has been phenomenal but equally some of his sound-bites both on and off the pitch havent reflected all that well. He just needs a bit of competition and not to be revered as a savior/champion. Sure respect him, but the 'how are we to win without Adrian' attitude must go. How to solve it? Find another scorer. Who? who the hell knows.

IMO we gave Vieri a fair go when alot of people canned him so if anyone reading this thread think he is copping a bad rap then think about who took him in when no one else would. The penalty was unforgivable - it was at that exact moment when his experience would suddenly have the upper hand as youth goes flying out the window...that ridiculous run up was punished and so were we for condoning such cowboy tactics.

Liverani...interesting. I think he only has a left foot and praces with the ball a little too much for my liking. I havent seen the phenomenal through balls he threaded in 06. I would keep him on board for experience, but at what cost?
 
#14 ·
I really don't understand how there is more than one guy saying Liverani must go out. You must have been watching another purple team in another league. (toulouse maybe?) Liverani is the one that dictates the tempo in our team. He almost never miss a pass. I think he have to stay no mather what happens. Plus, he gives experience tosuch a young midfield. Vieri should be kicked out (i'm sorry, but I really don't see why he's playing in our team. I hopes Ujfa stays, he's our capitan an he plays just great. We really need a goalscorer striker. It is not that hard. I really like Pazzini, but as second striker; he hasn't the instinct nore the precision to be our only striker. Mutu should stay despite the last match attitude cause he's just ****ing great. Santana is a good player, but he could be a reserve player. I think Farfan could be a great winger. I would love to see this offensive sistem:

Farfán----------------Mutu
--------Cavenaghi---------
 
#15 ·
Why no Liverani?
Sure he has the potential to be a great player, but all too often this season he gets pushed off the ball or his crosses get cleared with ease. He has potential, i'm willing to keep him on board another season on the proviso his contract isnt costing us a fortune and we don't have to renew it to keep him here.
 
#16 ·
He is 32 years old. He showed his potential when playing for Perugia and Lazio but seems to me that his contribution is not very good anymore as our younger stars are better already. But if his salary is not very high why not to keep him as substitute.
 
#18 ·
I guess it's 50-50. But even if he went away, surely Corvino would us bring adequate replacement.
 
#20 · (Edited)
I will try a brief review of transfer situation...


Players almost 100% to leave:
Vieri and Ujfalusi

Players likely to leave:
Cacia, Pasqual

Could be on the way out:
Dainelli, Avramov, Potenza, Liverani, Lupoli, Santana, Papa Waigo, Osvaldo

Players almost 100% to join us:
Jovetic and Melo

Players likely to join us:
Barzagli and Vargas

Other rumours:
Gilardino, Comotto, Dossena, Aquafresca, Morreti, Raggi, Domizzi, Palladino, Rosina, Revelliere
 
#22 ·
I will try a brief review of transfer situation...


Players almost 100% to leave:
Vieri and Ujfalusi

Players likely to leave:
Cacia, Pasqual

Could be on the way out:
Dainelli, Avramov, Potenza, Liverani, Lupoli, Santana, Papa Waigo

Players almost 100% to join us:
Jovetic and Melo

Players likely to join us:
Barzagli and Vargas

Other rumours:
Comotto, Dossena, Aquafresca, Morreti, Raggi, Domizzi, Palladino, Rosina
Pavel, explain to me how Gilardino was linked in every single newspaper today as being Fiorentina's first signing and yet his name fails to appear on any of your categories?
 
#21 ·
IMO if we are to get another forward it has to be someone physically imposing to hold up the ball at times so that faster players can be played through...

Adriano anyone?

As for Gila, i thing he HAD an inflated ego...now he has to realise the way he's going to get his game back is at a smaller club.


Pavel, should we not farm some of those potential parting players out?
 
#23 ·
Pavel, should we not farm some of those potential parting players out?
Hard to say, I just put names that could be in possible "danger" of being sold. And worth a note could be that just a while ago I read that there may be 9 million offer for Osvaldo from Tottenham.


Pavel, explain to me how Gilardino was linked in every single newspaper today as being Fiorentina's first signing and yet his name fails to appear on any of your categories?
Easy explanation... I forgot to write his name, even if I had him on mind as one of first :embarass: I'll add him.

Also, to possible arrivals may be added Revelliere, right back guy from french side Lyon.
 
#27 ·
Right now I'd prefer to keep Osvaldo, unless as you say, the offer would be even higher.

As for Maggio, I think we still officialy own his half, however there is a gentleman agreement that it'll be given to Sampdoria. And we can't forget one thing, he has indeed performed miracles for Samp this season, however it was above all thanks to Mazzari's 3-4-2-1 formation, while we need for our four man defense someone, who is as brave in defending as attacking.
 
#29 ·
Well, why not :pp

Fiorentina Zemaniana:
Jorgensen - Maggio, Barzagli, Gamberini, Vargas - Montolivo, Jovetic, Melo - Pazzini, Gilardino, Mutu.

:howler:
 
#32 ·
My reccomendations of ins

Gilardino or Borriello
Rosina
De Silvestri
Grosso? or Vargas or Modesto
Cigarini
Barzagli

Then of course some other names from abroad can crop up.
 
#34 ·
We are supposedly looking at Revelleire of Lyon. Also supposed to be looking at taking back Maggio who C4 say we still co-own.

I hope we dont get Borriello to be honest, he was amazing but went back to his usually self during the latter part of the year and he might stay like that from now on.

Get Andrejev of Levedia, a regular FM legend :D
 
#35 ·
Get Andrejev of Levedia, a regular FM legend :D
Young Russian talent is doing good things in Levadia but we can't forget that he is playing in Estonian league where results like 5-0 or 6-1 are quite usual.:pp