Having seen the last couple of games I think we lack of creativity upfront. All attacks go through the middle and the opponents defence is very much aware of that fact.
In a lot of games we had the advantage in possesion but weren't able to create something out of this. Also in my opinion Diego holds the ball a way to long without any idea were to pass the ball. I've barley seen a deadly pass from him. I don't know if he had this ability with Werder...
We need at least one winger in midfield, so Camo is really needed to add some pressure from the flanks and add more offensive flexibility to our game.
What I've seen our centre defence is OK at the moment, Canna is in good form and could be an asset to the world cup squad if he continous playing like he is right now. The full backs are our problem as usual but I can't see how to improve this department for the reminder of the season so our current players have to step up.

I can't see us winning this one but I'm hoping for it.

 

Well let's say Diego has the ball, who does he pass it to?

There are very few decisive players in our team, i can only think of him and Candreva, and Del Piero when he plays. He really has no one else to play off of and get into the situation were he himself has enough space to make an incisive pass or assist.

Everyone else struggles to make an impact in terms of creating something upfront. All our other midfielders are pretty limited in this aspect, and our wingbacks are terrible. It makes for very blunted attacking options.

As for the game, playing Napoli at home has always been a difficult game, for us right now in our state of turmoil it'll be practically impossible. A draw would be great, but our defense is not good enough to hold out, and our offense is not good enough to make up a deficient. Basicially, if they score they win which will most likely be the case.

Sigh, what a depressing f*cking team to support at the moment.

 

But overtaking defenders is apparently also not his cup of coffee.

Btw, Napoli's chief on the forthcoming game
"I am sure Mazzarri knows the best formation to play, he is a great strategist and he will have played on his computer game to see what will be best." :howler:

Maybe Zac should also take a shot with the products of EA just to see if using Camo and Gio would provide some width to keep the wings busy and maybe take off some pressure from Zebina and Grosso.

 

It really boggles the mind why Gio hasn't played more.

Okay, yes defensively he's not very sound given his build, but who cares? Check out Barca's assortment of talented midgets, does that ever stop them from dominating proceedings?

Has he really been that bad in training? I just don't get it.

 

It really boggles the mind why Gio hasn't played more.

Okay, yes defensively he's not very sound given his build, but who cares? Check out Barca's assortment of talented midgets, does that ever stop them from dominating proceedings?

Has he really been that bad in training? I just don't get it.

Have you totally missed all the young players that have ruined their careers? :kiss:

It's funny how oblivious Juve fans are...

 

guys, he is injured.

 

Yeah, been injured for a while now.

 

I was speak for the course of this season, i realize he's been injured recently. Which just makes it all the more annoying that he wasn't utilized when he was fit.

 

Its not recently, been injured for 3 months. And prior to that, was weirdly going between minor injuries that are harder to notice (and the injury that kept him out this long is a mystery too). But yeah under Ferrara he was benched, under Zac, not fit even once in 2010.

 

Time passes so fast, i forgot Zac's been in charge for as long as he has.

We haven't looked much better under him, unfortunately.

And we really need to check out our medical staff and what they're doing, this is the second season we've been plagued by injuries to a ridiculous degree.

 

Criscito?

 

Oh and Henry , but you meant recent history prob?

 

I think Criscito is hyped beyond belief, he's a decent player but he sucked with us. We wanted him back last season, and he didn't want to come, which is fine. But you can't really categorize that under screwing him up. He wasn't ready to play for us at the time he got a chance to.

Henry sucked in the position he was supposed to play for us, Wenger was the one who transformed him into the forward he is today. Besides, he was a French international when he got here, hardly a young talent we squandered.

 

Rocchi? Miccoli? Rocchi is a stretch...lol but I name him for the sake of naming and who knows he could have been awesome for Juve.:tongue:

I thought Palladino did well for Juve in B and in the end Juve opted to buy Amauri...:rollani:

I could understand if Juve got a big player but Amauri? hardly an upgrade if you ask me. I definately bracket that as Juve buying into hype of a player.

For the most part though I take issue with the use of players being used as bargaining chip in transfers...I think we've all heard how players felt forced sometimes to accept offers...e.g. Nocerino, Brighi, Miccoli and Maresca the list is long and wide and they have all spoken about Juve strong arming them to accept moves.

I admire Poulsen...he stood his ground. He has a contract and the onus is on Juve to do something about their situation not himself.

 

I thought Palladino did well for Juve in B and in the end Juve opted to buy Amauri...:rollani:

You GOTTA be kidding me. If anything, he got TOO much chances, utterly useless as heck.


One thing to complain about Giovinco not having enough chance, and the likes of scrubs you are mentionning...

 

I wish some other big club buy Palladino so we can all see how shitty he is again.

I think Nocerino said he was pretty happy to join Palermo, btw. And yeah, forza Poulsen. He has a great mentality.

 

IIRC I heard Juve were looking to bring him back... or have I heard wrong?

Also I don't think your in a position to call anyone a scrub...here in England Juve is a laughing stock...and is being seen as atrue representation of how Serie A has fallen and how much better the EPL is...

LOL

 

Mirante- Cassani -Gastaldello, Masiello- Criscito-Nocerino, Brighi- Palladino-Sculli- Rocchi
a nice team of juve rejects, only form players currently in serie a

 

I add Bentivoglio so we make them 11 :smileani:

And if we move to Spain there is Konko.

 

The scrubs I mean are likes of Palladino, Nocerino and the army of hacks you mentionned, whom I'm utterly glad they are out. Ok if they were average AND content with squad role like De Ceglie, but those two were pretty clearly asking for starting spots, while showing little for it.


I'm no Amauri fan, but its laughable to bring up someone like Palladino, total joke.

In general, Criscito could have been given more chance, but its still up for debate how he will fare, but defenitely worthy enough to be in the squad at least. Giovinco is a special talent we should take care of, and for those we got rid of, even if not our youth product (so not sure why you mentionned him, bought him in his mid 20s), only Miccoli has shown enough quality to be actually be of this level, while how and why he left was 100% understandable, considering we signed Zlatan and had top strikers, while he had semi-dissapointed that season.

But atleast he is a very good player and of clear talent, even if he didnt make it at this level (too inconsistent). The rest you mention though, sure little no regret.

But I agree 100& Juve should utilize its youth production more. But I prefer them to be of Marchisio, Giovinco and Criscito kinda talents before one cries wolf over wasting them. They are Juve rejects for a reason. Or whats next, you going to mention Gasbarroni? Even if your own Parma rejected him.

 

Or whats next, you going to mention Gasbarroni? Even if your own Parma rejected him.

Actually he wanted to leave as we got relegated.:smileani:

Also I never said the likes of Nocerino etc deserved better chances. I said they didn't deserve to be used as transfer pawns big difference.

The only players who I would have attributed probably not getting fair cracks were Palla, Maresca and Miccoli...

You may not agree but I never saw the value that Amauri brought to Juve over Palla and you know what even Moggi calls him a bidone ffs!

 

I dont care what Moggi calls him. And you call him bidone if you like, he is still BETTER then useless frigging Palladino. He got toooooooo many chances, that I can frigging assure you.

Miccoli you have a point (to a degree, he is quality, but as I said, we got Zlatan and as soon as he heard, he wanted out), and we all liked Maresca quite a bit, but lets not pretend he was anything more then a decent player at best, especially at the time he left, he was litterally not good enough with the kind of signings we we were making.

And regarding transfer pawns, thats how the mercato in this league works, penny pinching and trying to take as little risk as possible with the meagre signings. Thats usually what the bidders prefer, wealing and dealing.

 

foza juve

 

I completely agree with you Glen, thats also why I said I 100% agree with Gaga saying we mishandle our youth production routinely. I just didnt agree with the kind of conclusions he drew from that.

 

Nocerino is not more talented than anyone we currently have stacking midfield, and nor is Palladino in attack.

It's one thing to say we don't foster talent well, but it's another to compare guys like Busquet the averages likes that have come through our ranks recently. And i know that was not the main purpose, but what i'm saying is it's far easier to assimilate players who are outstanding by nature, than with those who are mediocre.

 

Nocerino is not more talented than anyone we currently have stacking midfield, and nor is Palladino in attack.

It's one thing to say we don't foster talent well, but it's another to compare guys like Busquet the averages likes that have come through our ranks recently. And i know that was not the main purpose, but what i'm saying is it's far easier to assimilate players who are outstanding by nature, as to those who are mediocre.

Ah, but then the question is how many would have noticed Busquets if he'd played for whatever the Spanish equivalents of Avellino, Messina and Piacenza are?

 

Whats all the fuss about?

Nocerino had a full season to prove his value, made 32 apps in one season, largely thanks to injury problems of others. From what i remember, he was bashed in these boards, as he didnt add anything special to this side. Especially compared to the likes of CZ.

Palladino is one very overrated player. When he got his chance, i remember tv commentators saying as he is the one to take over DP mantle. Oh and he got his chance, when we where in B.

Wiki:Although he is mainly a striker, with the presence of Alessandro Del Piero, Vincenzo Iaquinta, and especially David Trezeguet, Palladino had a hard time finding a spot as a striker. He mainly played as a left winger during the 2007-2008 season, although he is predominately right footed.

Its also nonsense to discuss if he is better than Amauri. Amauri had a good first season.

 

Palladino is one very overrated player. When he got his chance, i remember tv commentators saying as he is the one to take over DP mantle. Oh and he got his chance, when we where in B.



Its also nonsense to discuss if he is better than Amauri. Amauri had a good first season.

This proves my point exactly. Palladino is obviously a forward and you guys used him as a winger AND on the wrong side too.:wth:

Look at this season. You guys tried to get Giovinco to track back and play like Nedved...:howler: You have De Ceglie in defense and you ridicule him for it when he is a left midfielder.

Seriously...I mean seriously where the hell has common sense gone? :wth:

 

Well, he didnt had room to play in Juve. And at the time, Amauri&Trez were hot and running. So again whats all the fuss? I am not sad at all that Palladino is not around here right now.

Ranieri played him for 2 reason, to give him a chance, and to use him for injury crisis.

BTW, not the first time this happens. Remember when Capello used Mutu in the wing when Nedved was out or injured.

 

Thats the kind of conclusions I'm talking about. Common sense? Common sense was that Palladino was played as a winger, position he can somewhat play because he is a wingforward, because he was too useless and ineffective to compete in attack (his career goals says enough, and when loaned out years ago to Livorno, could score fvck all). You complain about not getting chances, but he was played as a winger specifically just for that, to get playing time (because the injury crisis).

And he played left winger way more then right, and thats as close as it can get to his natural position, despite being little further back. He had zeeeeeero end product in either, but atleast did less damage in midfield, because never scoring in attack is hardly acceptable (especially when you have duo who were 1-2 and in goalscoring chart, plus Iaquinta being a super sub scoring whenever he played).

DC is even more useless in midfield, so dont even start that. And Giovinco wasnt played like Nedved this season, the times he played this season been in a 4-3-1-2 or 4-2-3-1, in the hole or LW in both. You may be thinking of Ranieri's and his obbession to have De Ceglie like qualities as a LW then finding proper room for likes of Giovinco.

 

:howler:

Your questioning Palladino's goal record but Amauri's whole career he has suffered with record dry goal spells...one lasting nearly a year iirc ffs!

Also Amauri's goal record is only slightly better then Palladino's tbf...if you consider age and the amount of chop and change.:smileani: