You based this on what game the last time? Just because Gattuso has acted like an animal the last matches (which we have been saying when you all jump on us about Materazzi), doesn´t mean you should defend that by looking for someone worse.

It´s obvious you just wanted to provoke after seeing the reaction from some people after Gattuso´s idiotic tackles and punch yesterday. Get over it man. We have Materazzi as our butcher, and you have Gattuso.

Be consistent atleast in the player bashing.

 

Football should be leisurely passion and I'd hate to think that supporting Inter isn't a passion but a disease.

I'm not going to defend Prancing Horse because outright baiting Inter fans is plain stupid and pointless. Gatusso deserved his red this morning because all the praise has gone to his head, with any luck Carlo will kick his petulent silly behind and fine him a reasonable amount.

But just listen, Materazzi is an unique breed among professional footballers, can we not agree at least on that? I mean, there's a difference between tactical fouls which all serious teams adopt and what Materazzi does. It's not really all that subtle a difference either - one is arguably an unpleasant and cynical part of modern football, the other tries to hurt someone if he could get away with it. Once is an accident, twice is clumsiness and from what I remember, 6 times is just approaching criminality.

 

And you´re also describing Gattuso as he has been acting for several years.

I KNOW Materazzi is a dirty player. I admit that. But what I don´t understand how people can be so cynical and condemn us all the time, when their own team has GENNARO GATTUSO!!!!

The guy injured Maini in the first game. He had a smilir tackle against Bologna. He had one tackle yesterday where he went with hus dubs into the legs on a player, and of course the punch in the face.

So get real here a bit. Materazzi is a thug and so is Gattuso.

 

Come on Jimmy, you cant possibly compare with al the bias in teh world, Rino's way of playing (and he is a ball winner, remind you, they usually do and play teh same way) and even his last night performance with teh well deserved red card (by the way, have you noticed that all Milan fans have said that - do you remember what half of Inetr fans were saying each time we discuss Matrix ... "Well done, keep going" to name just one) with all we ahve seen from Matrix which is simply criminal as intend and is rearlyt as a result of one second frustration and stupidity (which was Rino;s case). Cant possibly compare these two ...

 

And you can´t possible say that this was a once in a lifetime thing made of Gattuso.

You think any Inter fan would say "Keep going" if Materazzi caused a red card? Of course not! But YOU Milan fans has condemned us for wanting to keep Materazzi and whatever else. So how´s this different? Should I condemn Milan for keeping a player that plays like Gattuso?

But then again, it seems you guys haven´t watched Gattuso for years and actually don´t consider him a dirty player. :wth:

POINTLESS!

 

I cant do anything else here but quote Glen from minutes ago in teh Milan forum on the same topic:

Gattuso IS a thug. Materazzi is a bastard. Not the same thing.

Pointless??? I dont think so. Quite sharp. 10 out of 10. None has argued the oppsoite here an dthere from us Milan fans. Simple "not the same thing".

 

Gattuso is hot-headed and his deeds are always blatant while on the other hand Materazzi is a more vicious player, often comitting career-threatening faults he hopes to go unoticed. That makes Materazzi worse than Gattuso, but they're both scumbags regardless!

Ciao.

 

Gattuso is hot-headed and his deeds are always blatant while on the other hand Materazzi is a more vicious player, often comitting career-threatening faults he hopes to go unoticed. That makes Materazzi worse than Gattuso, but they're both scumbags regardless!

Ciao.

funny who qoutes from two juve fans settle a milan and inter fans debate....:tongue:

 

It ain't settled till Jimmy's consent, Lav!
(But indeed and like it or not, us Juventini are always at the bottom of everything! )

Ciao.

 

I´ve never said that Materazzi isn´t a scumbag. On the contrary, I´ve been saying he is and that he is an extremely dirty player.

But do you see any Milan fans saying Gattuso is a scumbag?

 

I know Jimbo! It's hard to criticize someone who's currently forging ahead!

 

I think that Glen's quote is right. Anyhow I do not care, the only important thing is that they both stay far from our NT... and not just for their behaviour. :tongue:

 

Love Materazzi even if he's a butcher !! he's one of our best defender and just look at his performance today !! SUPERB as hell

what a formation Cuper uses today....Really perfect....4-4-2
Toldo
Zanetti-Cannavaro-Materazzi-Cordoba
VDM-Cristiano-Emre-Kily
Cruz-Martins


Forza INter !!:angel: :angel: :angel:

 

Jimmy alot of gattuso's challenges have alot to be desired for I wont argue against that,But in looking at materazzi in his aerial challenges as well it's clear with his Intent.There are several players we can name I guess who are culprits of rough play.

 

Like Nesta, the king of the abit-too-rough-but-without-anyone-noticing-it-tackle

BTW, good work even if it was you guys. Nice to see a Serie A team show one of the bookers unmotivated favourites for the UCL how the game is played.

 

But do you see any Milan fans saying Gattuso is a scumbag?

I have, but all to often fans are overprotecting of him. Now I have critisized him this year (before the red card) becuase he have had more bad tackles than he had in general last year. I agree with what Politician said about Gattusso, it seems like the praise he has recieved have got over his head. Dare I say that he has even worked less than last year...

But if I have a complaint to Inter fans it is Senna's thread where he PRAISED Materazzis attacks on players and not one single Inter fan said anything against that. I would have hit down on a Milan fan that said something like that like an sledgehammer... and I have.

 

Materazzi is often very calculative in his tackles, shoves and whatnot and this paints a very bad picture of himself. He fully deserves the flak he is getting right now because he simply refuses to change his style of play and instead, has gone on to do more each successive game. IMO, Matrix is one of us but he is a threat to any opposing player, not because of his great defensive skills, but more so because of his notorious fouls.

As for Gatusso, well we all know what he has been like all this while.

Ciao,
Tim

 

I read an interview with Thomas Helveg a few weeks ago; the reporter asked a question regarding unfair opponents.. the answer was quite surprising at least to me: Helveg said that Tacchinardi is the most dirty player he´s ever been up against.. Alessio´s reputation among colleagues is that he´d be more than happy to destroy a career as the referee looks in the other direction, but he´s very good at hiding his acts of bullying.. a juventino butcher in disguise.. isn´t that just typical?

 

I agree Laudrup Tacchinardi is one of the dirtiest players I've ever seen some of the things he's done down the years leave alot to be desired.Jimmy when a player is playing for a club you wont get that many fans really rubbishing him until he's gone.

 

Without bias and without attacking any of the Inter Milan fans here, I have to say that Materazzi is on a different level to Gattuso, as far as dirty play goes.

One only has to look at last year's Champions League semi-final against Milan to notice this. In 90 minutes, Materazzi committed 3 red cardable offences, 2 of those could have caused serious damage, as well as 2 other minor offences which could have copped a yellow. Somehow, he didn't even get a card but that isn't the point. This is the typical Materazzi that we see every week. Not someone who makes hard challenges and perhaps professional fouls, but unnecessary kicking and punching, etc...

Now on to Gattuso. Blind Freddy can see that he is no angel. He is a tough player who makes some dangerous tackles. But most of the time he wins the ball or is geniunely contesting the ball. That's the way he plays, with aggression, perhaps a bit too much. The red card against Ajax was primary school stuff for Matrix. Gattuso was being held, turned around and gave a bit of a whack out of frustration. Deserved a red card and shouldn't have been done.

But it is not nearly as bad as Matrix kicking Sheva in the nuts when the ball was 1 metres away, Matirx kicking Rui in the head when the ball was 1 metre away and Matirx punching Nesta in the stomach when the ball hadn't even arrived! All this was in the one match mind you.

In my opinion, Matrix is much, much dirtier than Gattuso and his actions are a disgrace. This isn't to say that Gattuso is an angel, but comparing him to Matrix is a no-no.

 

Materazzi has been Inter's best defender this season. He was man of the match against Modena, provided stability in Siena to a defence that would otherwise have fallen apart and against Arsenal, he was a pillar of strength.

This post is quite entertaining but rather unimportant. Materazzi, bastard or not, scumbag or not, butcher or not, is playing effective football and Inter are yet to concede a goal with him at the centre of their defence. If he can take out opponent players without being caught then so be it.

Inter havent conceded any goals, he has scored two goals, has a man of the match award and has probably been the stand out player of our season so far. Change his style of play? What for? So opposing teams and fans will think of him as being a nice fellow? Materazzi's record speaks for itself. He scored the highest amount of goals for a defender in a season in the history of Serie A and is presently our team's leading goalscorer. Nothing more needs to be said.

 

He might be playing great, but most of his actions are off the ball, very dangerous, not in the spirit of the game and are really unfair and uncalled for.

 

I give you my opinion on Materazzi in 3 hours...

FORZA SAMPDORIA!!!

 

Toni, you know better than rating a player based on one game.

I don´t think there should be any doubts about Materazzi as a football player and defender now, right? Even if he is disguising his enormously good skills with his behaviour, no one can deny that he is a very good defender.

Unless you refuse to look at his contributions of course and just look at him as a butcher.

The Shev, I can´t really see where you are coming from when you say most of his actions are off the ball. Have you seen how many balls he intercepts and stops? How many sliding tackles on the ball he does? How many aerial challenges he wins?
Be fair to him atleast.

 

Materazzi player rather well as a defender controlling Bazzani rather easily.
Where did he learn to kick the FKs in that perfect way? He has become more dangerous than Mihajlovic!