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Conclusion of The Most Overrated and Underrated Footballers In The History

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As I have been studying and researching of players and legends' level of status in football history, I'd like to list the most overrated and underrated players in accordance with these items ;

1) Reputation
2) Awards
3) Regard of Rating



The Most Overrated Players of All-Time

1. Stanley Matthews (Award and Regard of Rating) :

His name has usually been appeared in top 20 best ever. He is not overrated in term of reputation as his remakable characteristic in football history as the greatest-oldest footballer of all-time after recovery a status of footballer from the WW II. In term of ability, he is one of the greatest dribblers and crossers ever but these level of potential finally could be not very highly performed in high standard of competition like major international tournament. His scoring ability is failed for winger role as the secondary responsibility. So many times that winger has a chance to do score in the side area in the appropiated situtation to be better in decision of shooting than crossing. During the 3 seasons between 1949 - 1952, he scored just a goal in 87 domestic club competition games and scored no goal for 21 games in row in seven years with England between 1949 - 1955. It is argue that his best period was the first half 1950s but he was between 35 - 40 years old in referred period that his speed must be much reduced and there were too many world-class candidates for him to be properly considered as the best player of the World in any year. Among top legendary players in the World, he is by far out of standard in term of achievement. 1956 Ballon'Dor give to him for his honor not the best performance in that year. He won his second FWA footballer of the year at 38 years old. This is really suspect that players could reach level the best player of the league in that age.


2. Roger Milla (Regard of Rating)

He is regarded by so many as the third best African players of all-time to Weah and Eto'o and was even appeared in IFFHS World top 50 players of the century. It is as if performance in World Cup is everything for footballer and club career is nothing for this rating. His performance in World Cup was so great but was done against a same level team. I can list at least 10 African players in recent generations better than him in reality, are Weah, Eto'o, Drogba, Yeboah, Essein, Abedi Pele, Okocha, Adebayor, Kanu, Yaya Toure.



3. Arthur Friedenreich (Reputation, Regard of Rating)

The large number of goalscoring statistic in amatuer era is possibly far to be accepted to compare with the professional standard. Friedenreich was too slim for being beleived as a great sporstman. His weight around 52 kg with 170 cm can be imagined that he was not ready to stand the distance in the heavy game. In reality, he may not be good enough in top 50 striker of all-time. The reason I rate him in top 30 because I have no evidence to see his footage to support my idea from assumption to be tangible matter.



4. Carlos Valderrama (Reputation and Regard of Rating)

You can imagine if he would have played football in England. His too bad physical option is a main obstacle for his status level as athlete. His style of play is too limited just base on central midfield area to create short passing. He could not much help the team in defensive game and also not capable to support to score in second attacking line. He was only so good in vision and pass accuracy. Valderrama was also not successful enough in club career to be reasonably regarded in high status. His worldwide reputation is a lot over than his real ability and also acheivement.



5. Kevin Keegan (Award)

I can list at least 50 players having never won Ballon'Dor but better than him and Keegan even won twice and one runner-up. Keegan was a good player but his prime ability is not spectacular as most Ballon'Dor winners posssesses. In 1978, it was not one of his best years but he won Ballon'Dor that is arguable being to compensate 1977 which he finish second place.


Reserved Group

Dino Zoff
Eric Cantona
George Best
Gyula Grosics



The Most Underrated Footballers of All-Time

1) Gaetano Scirea (Award, Reputation)

One of the most popular discussions in history group is "Scirea is better than Baresi". Scirea is close to Baresi in defensive level of ability but is significantly better in offensive skill. However, Scirea never reached any top ten Ballon'Dor and never been selected in any World Cup All-Stars team. Baresi is seemingly a must in top 50 best ever for many while Scirea doesn't get a place.



2) Rivelino (Award)

Rivelino is one of the best technical players of all-time. His level of ability even can raise to be among the best ever. Contrary to his skill, he increadibly won just few trophy in his club career that is a main reason why he never won South American footballer of the year and never been selected in any World Cup all-stars team.



3) Dragan Dzajic (Regard of Rating, Reputation)

If yous have ever seen him played in some record of matches at his prime, there would be so many spectacular scence performed by him. A superb technique and all-round wingers, was one of the best crossers ever and close to be one of the best driblblers ever and also a prolific scorer as a winger, could be considered as a contemporary player with Garrincha as the most completed winger of all-time. Beckenbauer ever said it is unfair selection that Dzajic didn't win Ballon'Dor in 1968, On the other hand, So many football fan in the worldwide even never heard about his name.



4) Michael Laudrup (Award, Regard of Rating)

He is well-known as one of most talent playmakers of all-time but being not fulfilled his supreme level of potential. His performance in Italian Series A seems to fail to international-class for most seasons according to Guerin Sportivo rating. It is partly because of his style of play, was too wide mind to do passing in many situations that can score himself. He reached World-Class performance in la liga during the early 1990s and the level of class should be good enough to be rated in top 3 Ballon D'or in 1992 that he was also great in European Cup. Unfortunately, he didn't play in the 92 Euro which Denmark win the trophy. Otherwise, he would win Ballon'Dor easily.



5. Uwe Seeler (Reputation, Regard of Rating)

He is one of the best examples as one of the least decorative top-class footballers. His performance in Domestic German Competition was rated in around 7 World-Class seasons plus 7 international-class seasons. However, he played many regional games that the standard of competition is a lot lower than Bundesliga. Due to the few trophy in his overall club career, Seeler is always underrated in legendary status.


Reserved Group

Omar Corbatta
Luis Suarez Miramontes
Willem Van Hanegem
Paul Scholes
 
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I had never heard of Barnes... probably because of the ban on Liverpool. Going to check him on youtube. I've already learned something today :)

My chosen one is Rui Costa. He had it all. The most elegant player I have ever seen. Great passes, great technique, great vision, and most of all, great love for every club that he played for. He could have gone to Barcelona but he chose Fiorentina because Benfica would get more money. And I remember Rui Costa crying when he scored against Benfica in a friendly match.

He played for Fiorentina for 8 years (where he was known as the Prince of Florence, and, alonside with Batistuta, he was the fan's favourite), despite of the very low odds fiorentina had of ever winning the Serie A. He left for Milan, where he finally won the title and the UCL. At 34 he returned to Benfica, playing another 2 years with great class. When he returned to San Siro for a UCL match against Milan, all of the stadium stood up and gave him a great ovation, with banners and songs showing support and respect for him.

He is one of the most loved players in every club he has played for.

I think that if he had played for a world known team sooner than he did (he joined milan in 2001 with 29 years old) he woul eventually won the ballon d'or or the world player of the year.
 
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Ivan de la Pena...

Anyone who's seen him play has to agree that this guy oozes class... If he'd stuck with Barcelona and not had that disastrous spell at Lazio, he certainly would have played more than 5 times for Spain... Very underrated because of the club he plays in, where he is their go-to guy... Even in his twilight years, he still manages to come up with flashes of brilliance now and then...
 
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John Barnes.

According to quite a few Liverpool fans, he was the greatest player to play for Liverpool, even better than Kenny Daglish and that's saying something.

Sadly he didn't play in Europe because English clubs were banned . There's also the fact that he didn't bring his Liverpool form to England, so that didn't help in him getting the recognition he deserved.
Just seen a video. Looks like he was a great player. Very fast, excellent assists, great technique, the guy seemed to form a great duo with Rush.
 
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Quite shocking you haven't heard of him. Shows how underrated he is. He had everything a winger could ask for, skill, pace, technique, goals and a brain.

I do wonder if him being black may also be another reason why he was underrated.

He scored a brilliant solo goal against Brazil as well. Check it out on youtube if you haven't already.
 
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I do wonder if him being black may also be another reason why he was underrated.
Yeah, that certainly works against Pele. ;)


I think Johnny Haynes isn't as appreciated as he should be, outside of England no one seems to know about one of the best passers of the ball to have ever played the game.
 
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I would say Redondo is far from underrated. He had enough exposure in his career to showcase his abilities for several years and as a result is quite highly rated.


Barnes not exceptional?? lol i give up.

Cerezo and Falcao have always been known to be exceptional players. They may not be talked of as much as the likes of Pele or Maradona, but anyone who knows their football know that they were legendary players.

The rest of the players you mention, i admit to being ignorant of them.

Yep very much agreed. No one can honestly say Cerezo and Falcao are underrated. Even people who have never seen them play 90 minutes know of their ability. The '82 selecao launched them into legendary status alone.

Bochini and Houseman are better examples, which have already been stated. I would also say Enzo Francescoli. Many people have not even heard of him and ones that have can give few details as to what they know about him ("uhhh he's a forward? Argentinian..?").

Someone said Dejan Savicevic, I think his time at Milan and games like the 1994 Champions League final skyrocketed his rating. Robert Prosinecki is a much more underrated player IMO.



(prediction: someone will mention Le Tissier and then a youtube vid of his will follow with some comments like "wow amazing goals")
 
#11 ·
But Barnes and Ivan de La Pena are not really expcetional.
Do you guys remember Cerezo? Falcao? Or Eder? Maybe Ademir da Guia? Rodolfo Rodriguez ?Marzukiewicz? Pedro Rocha? Dario Pereyra? Pepe ?Coutinho? Cubillas? Coluna?
 
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Barnes not exceptional?? lol i give up.

Cerezo and Falcao have always been known to be exceptional players. They may not be talked of as much as the likes of Pele or Maradona, but anyone who knows their football know that they were legendary players.

The rest of the players you mention, i admit to being ignorant of them.
 
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Toninho Cerezo, Falcao and Eder were all great players, but are not talked of as much because they played in the same team as Zico and Socrates...

Teofilo Cubillas and Mario Coluna are certainly underrated... Cubillas was the star of the 70s Peru team and was truly a world class player, but again he himself overshadows Hector Chumpitaz... Coluna played in the 1960s Benfica team alongside Eusebio, that also featured Jose Augusto and Jose Aguas...

The other names Joao mentioned I've heard in passing, so if they were that good, then they are surely underrated...

Johnny Haynes I've heard a lot of because he's featured almost every time Fulham play a decent team, about how he faced the likes of Liverpool, United etc in the 1960s... :D
 
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#21 ·
Diego Lugano
 
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#23 ·
I've always been a big fan of de la Pena. Felt he's gotten treated rather harshly by NT managers, but you could say that about a lot of players, Yeste being the most prominent (another underrated player who I admire).
 
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You generally have a hard time making it to the NT in Spain as a midfielder. Too much competition. At least DLP got some 5 caps under Aragones (not enough for a player of his quality I reckon, but just imagine him ebding up as not being an international at all).
As for Yeste, it's tough to become recognised by the rest of Spain when you're playing for Bilbao, considering their chosen handicap. There's always a bunch of players with the qualities to keep them in top-flight though, which speaks for them in return. Yeste surely is one of them. Unfortunately he never got capped for the senior team of Spain as far as I know. But then again the question would be: where should he play? Whom to take out for him to come in?
 
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#25 ·
I'm not saying as a regular, but he would have certainly made a good addition to the squad.. Especially at his peak 4-5 years ago, he should have been selected.. The same goes for Iraola, who is a very good backup RB and Amorebieta who is a consistent CB, but I can't see them becoming regulars or even regularly picked squad players..
 
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Entirely agree, mate! I'm always stunned by seeing how many quality players the Euskadi still produces. Just hope they keep it coming in times where others spent 'escandalosamente escandalosas' amounts of money to bring in new players. Was happy to see them in the cup-final, albeit as a culer I naturally couldn't root for them. Maybe they gather the Supercup, Barça could live well without it and it would be great to see some silverware go to Bilbao again. ;)
Talking about Athletic and underrated players. I rate Iraizoz as one of the best goalies in Spain, hope he'll get capped one day. The Euskadi has a good tradition with outstanding goalkeepers. Just think of Iribar, Zubizarreta or Arconada. :star: Up to a certain degree also the legendary Ricardo Zamora can be counted in that line, he wasn't Basque, though, but before he came to football he was a star player in the Basque game 'Pelota', which had trained his reflexes to such a remarkable level.
 
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Edmundo. Folks who only saw him play at Europe have no idea how good he was. At his prime, he was one of the best players in the world.

Of course he always had sh!t for brains, but what a player he was.
 
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Conclusion of the most overrated and underrated players in the history

A cool vid from el Bocha, who weren't a prolific goalscorer, but that everytime he faced the keeper, he was like the best striker avaiable...notice his goals are against Boca, River, Estudiantes, Peñarol, Racing, Juve or whomever, the bigger the game, the better he played...against Fillol, Gatti and cia...Bocha pulled the strings of the team, but when that team needed him to score, he made extraordinary ones...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORdPkP55rYk
 
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A cool vid from el Bocha, who weren't a prolific goalscorer, but that everytime he faced the keeper, he was like the best striker avaiable...notice his goals are against Boca, River, Estudiantes, Peñarol, Racing, Juve or whomever, the bigger the game, the better he played...against Fillol, Gatti and cia...Bocha pulled the strings of the team, but when that team needed him to score, he made extraordinary ones...
Only 11 caps for NT, why so few? 78 or 82 wasn't even in the squad. I can understand not starting with Diego around but what about before or even just being on the bench as the no.10 reserve. WC 1978 maybe tactical reasons (Ardiles and Gallego from memory was the midfield pair) because Kempes and Diego both played in 82.
 
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its funny that Bochini, a four time Copa Libertadores champion when South American club football was massive, doesn't get as much recognition as some peripheral players (let alone the best players from the winning teams) that have won multiple CL tropies
 
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Overal, South American defenders are lowered down unless they are some weird of attacking kind, like Brazil full backs or Passarella. And we had quite a lot of good defenders (Would be ridiculous to think our teams would not develop good defenders, having to deal with great attacks for decades and with all sucess we have). And not just Uruguay-Brasil-Argentina, Figueroa is easily head to head with Baresi or Moore, but who will say that?

Mostly because you have some monsters ala Pele or Diego who just cannt be denied and lots of great players that are almost all in same level, but exposure or timing meant something different to them. Pedro Rocha or Ademir da Guia for example, what players, watch Zidane, and watch them. It is all there.
 
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well the best was Bochini, closely followed by Alonso
Valencia was a tricky player, i think he was more like a support forward than a playmaker.
I always liked Trobbiani, but he didn't feature that often in national team, ditto Sabella.
Ramon Rocha, i heard, was pretty good. He has quite a few caps two, more than 20.
Zanabria was also a prominent player, but didn't get capped too often either.

I don't know other reasons for Bochini's exclusion. Maybe Fangio can help

Also, Brindisi was a fine player, someone comparable to the likes of Bochini and Kempes. Don't know why he suddenly stopped playing for the national team after mid-70s
 
#41 ·
Also, Brindisi was a fine player, someone comparable to the likes of Bochini and Kempes. Don't know why he suddenly stopped playing for the national team after mid-70s
He was transfer to Spain league by late 70s and had a few of great seasons there.

But the only one "expatried" player called up was Kempes.

Soooooo different at current times, when everybody knows players who played at Euro leagues.
 
#42 ·
also, the phrase "pase bochinesco" is still used by many Argentineans. few Argentineans with whom i play the game always yell Bocha pass or the Spanish term whenever they see a sublime pass being played.
A friend of mine yelled "pase bochinesco" when Riquelme made the pass to Saviola in the Ivory Coast game in WC 2006.
When Riquelme seems as a periphery passer in comparison, you know you are talking about a special footballer
 
#43 ·
I think everything began to change since early 80s:
- WC increased participants, massifying football all over the world
- Italian Serie A, reopened his market to foreign players
- Spain market increased his # of foreign players too.
- Modern tactics has been developing
- Science applied to football training was developed too

PS: It's not a critical point of view. Just opinions
 
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