[Krle]

I really don't care about Svilar, he's a noname who doesn't deserve a call up. Don't care if he wants to choose Belgium if Serbia doesn't want to call him to soon.

lol, the kid just broke the CL record for youngest goalkeeper and is starting at the club that helped produce Oblak (Atletico) and Ederson (Man City) in recent years. It's also a position where we've literally never had a quality player. Rajko might become one, but competition is always a good thing.

 

[SrpskiInat]

I really don't care about Svilar, he's a noname who doesn't deserve a call up. Don't care if he wants to choose Belgium if Serbia doesn't want to call him to soon.

I mean he's only the biggest goalkeeper name in Europe under 21 years of age (after Donnarumma of course ).
He's only a starting goalkeeper (who has done amazingly well apart for that one mistake against European Giant, Man United) for Benfica.
He's only been talked about in the media for years now.
He's only going to be one of the best goalkeeper's in Europe in a few years playing for a big european club and worth 40+ million.
But yeah kind of a no-name I guess

Better off reading the official site first. They're fixing his papers (he's making the switch, so that requires some paperwork) and there will be more news in the coming days. They do add that both parties want to see Svilar in the Serbia jersey.

But no Zivkovic, I get that there's an U21 game (actually I don't), but why Grujic then? A guy who isn't even playing senior football and was the most disappointing figure in last month's U21 games. Maksimovic btw is also getting more senior playing time than Grujic right now and deserves it more than he does.

I thought the U21's do have a game around the same time. Maybe the U21 coach didn't want/need Grujic for the upcoming games because he was horrible in the last game. Maybe being around the A team will give him some motivation and also give Liverpool more incentive to give him extra playing time. Otherwise, I have no idea why Zivkovic didn't get a call up.


As for Svilar, I read on FSS site about paperwork and "mutual" interest but I think it's a load of crap.
But we shall see. I guess Svilar is just buying some time to see if Belgium will call him up to the A-team. Though, I don't think they have any friendlies set up in the near future?
Either way, I want to see this kid for the NT. Period. Do what you must. It's the least we deserve as football fans.
SMS was the first step.




EDIT:

Actually, now that I think about it, I think Zivkovic might be injured. He wasn't even on the bench for Benfica's last game and hasn't played in the cup game and barely came off the bench for CL game. So, there's def something there.

 

[Nikolitch]

lol, the kid just broke the CL record for youngest goalkeeper and is starting at the club that helped produce Oblak (Atletico) and Ederson (Man City) in recent years. It's also a position where we've literally never had a quality player. Rajko might become one, but competition is always a good thing.

I mean he's only the biggest goalkeeper name in Europe under 21 years of age.
He's only a starting goalkeeper (who has done amazingly well apart for that one mistake against European Giant, Man United) for Benfica.
He's only been talked about in the media for years now.
He's only going to be one of the best goalkeeper's in Europe in a few years playing for a big european club and worth 40+ million.
But yeah kind of a no-name I guess

So stupid arguments.

Rumors about him + 4 games with Benfica, that is Svilar's perfomances.

 

[Krle]

If the part about Svilar wasn't true they would have just omitted it from their site. There are some formalities that need to be handled before we can officially call him up, same thing with Lyanco when he switched and then switched back.

Not calling up Zile to me is a crime. I mean, U21 football is nice and all that, but we need to get him familiarized with the A team set up ASAP. That's what we're building for in the first place! But I guess since Zile is a kid from Nis with no second nation options, there is no hurry in his case. :facepalm:

Also, what does Krstajic do formation wise now? Common sense says he goes on with the 3-4-3, but we'd be better off trying out some 4 at the back formations, seeing what kind of progress we're able to make that way.

 

[Krle]

So stupid arguments.

Yeah, yours are much better indeed. I must say that ch at the end of your name fits you quite nicely!

 

[zoric]

Serbia are playing Austria and Armenia away in the next couple of U21 qualifiers. Plus there's no sell-on clause which'll give Partizan any money if Živković gets sold and he's not particularly close to leaving either. Grujić on the other hand has a better chance of leaving Liverpool

 

[Nikolitch]

Krle, your argumention is based on rumors and 4 games, so yes that's stupid.

No one deserves to be call up in the NT after only 4 games.

 

[SrpskiInat]

If the part about Svilar wasn't true they would have just omitted it from their site. There are some formalities that need to be handled before we can officially call him up, same thing with Lyanco when he switched and then switched back.

Not calling up Zile to me is a crime. I mean, U21 football is nice and all that, but we need to get him familiarized with the A team set up ASAP. That's what we're building for in the first place! But I guess since Zile is a kid from Nis with no second nation options, there is no hurry in his case. :facepalm:

Also, what does Krstajic do formation wise now? Common sense says he goes on with the 3-4-3, but we'd be better off trying out some 4 at the back formations, seeing what kind of progress we're able to make that way.

We shall see about Svilar. Don't want to get my hopes up.

I think Zile is injured though at the moment. We will see if he even plays for the U21's.
I also don't think he's a major necessity at the moment in our coaches' minds because they have more experienced players like Tadic, Kostic, and Ljajic on the wings. I do think Zivkovic will be far better than each of them by the end of spring 2018. This is also around the time Tadic tends to fall off. Might see Zivkovic start a game or two at the WC. We shall see.
Kostic did well over the weekend for his club. Seems to be getting back in form slowly after a disappointing year last season. Dude is also ridiculously injury prone.

In central midfield, I think they want to test out more players alongside Matic. Don't think Grujic is a great fit but we shall see.


Like Zoric said, transfer fee's for Partizan. There's always logic behind our FA.

 

[Krle]

Krle, your argumention is based on rumors and 4 games, so yes that's stupid.

No one deserve to be call up in the NT after only 4 games.

What's the rumour exactly in my argument? Point it out please.

I agree that he shouldn't be a starter for us right now, but there's literally nothing to lose by calling him up as the third goalkeeper, in fact we can only gain by it. The bigger nations do this all the time in regards to player eligibility and yet somehow we are too big for such a move? He may or may not become a great goalkeeper in the future (although the signs are most definitely positive), but at least that way he'll be ours in the long run.

 

[Sarma Police]

FFS should hire Gavrancic. After all, they just want someone to pose on the sideline.

 

[Nikolitch]

What's the rumour exactly in my argument? Point it out please.

I agree that he shouldn't be a starter for us right now, but there's literally nothing to lose by calling him up as the third goalkeeper, in fact we can only gain by it. The bigger nations do this all the time in regards to player eligibility and yet somehow we are too big for such a move? He may or may not become a great goalkeeper in the future (although the signs are most definitely positive), but at least that way he'll be ours in the long run.

You gave me facts. But it's hard to consider him as a starting after only 4 games. Julio Cesar is old and Varela is not a wonderkid. We've got to keep this in proportion.

Nothing to lose? Not in my opinion.
FSS should not kneel and beg only because Svilar is talented and because he has belgium nationality. Let's have some dignity.

 

[sippypowder]

Ha good one sarma

 

[SrpskiInat]

You gave me facts. But it's hard to consider him as a starting after only 4 games. Julio Cesar is old and Varela is not a wonderkid. We've got to keep this in proportion.

Nothing to lose? Not in my opinion.
FSS should not kneel and beg only because Svilar is talented and because he has belgium nationality. Let's have some dignity.

Calm down dude.

Nobody is making Svilar a starter. Unless he has some crazy breakout season for Benfica, Stojkovic is most likely going to be the #1 keeper choice for the upcoming WC. After that, it's up to Rajko and Svilar to battle it out for first choice. Competition for GK is great because many times goalkeepers can become complacent and lazy because they know there's nobody better than them on the roster.

Anyhow, kid is starting for a top club in Europe.
He's better than our 3rd choice keeper whose name I can never even remember aka irrelevant.

Another good thing is if we find out that Svilar is not good enough for the WC, we have capped him already and we can demote him to the U21 team where we don't have a great selection of keepers. This is great news because the current U21 qualifications/tournament is also the qualifier for the 2020 Olympics which would be HUGE for us and this current generation for the exposure and recognition. Plus, it's arguably our most talented U21 generation that we've ever had.

So, I don't see what issues you have with calling up Svilar unless you are Aleksandar Jovanovic and by your actions you might actually be him! :surprise:


:devil2:

 

[Krle]

FFS should hire Gavrancic. After all, they just want someone to pose on the sideline.

You gave me facts. But it's hard to consider him as a starting after only 4 games. Julio Cesar is old and Varela is not a wonderkid. We've got to keep this in proportion.

Nothing to lose? Not in my opinion.
FSS should not kneel and beg only because Svilar is talented and because he has belgium nationality. Let's have some dignity.

Who's begging though? His father came out and pleaded for us to call his son up.

We lost out on guys like Arnautovic and Mirotic (basketball) because of our stubbornness. Let's not make the same mistakes now.

 

[SrpskiInat]

This is the best comment on B92:

"kolarov, ivanovic, nastasic, rukavina - ne zna se ko je veca rupa

(mance, 30. oktobar 2017 18:50)"



It has nothing to do with who our next coach is. That defense is atrocious. Absolutely appalling defense. Let us pray to god we don't get some South American or African nations. They will destroy the moral of the youngsters.

 

[voj vojo]

Already a much better squad. Muslin would not change anything and we would achieve nothing. It's better to fail with those talented players than some of the ones Muslin used in qualifiers.

I hope Zivkovic and Basta would been there instead of Gudelj and Vukovic if they wouldn't been injured. I only don't agree with the choice of Grujic over Maksimovic. I think this is the best squad we have at this moment:

Zivkovic - Mitrovic - Tadic
(Kostic) - (Prijovic) - (Ljajic)
Sergej - Maksimovic
(Gacinovic) - (Milivojevic)
Matic
(Fejsa)
Kolarov - Maksimovic - Ivanovic - Basta
(Obradovic) - (Nastasic) - (Veljkovic) - (Rukavina)
Stojkovic
(Rajkovic)
(Svilar)​

 

[Nikolitch]

Our biggest problem is the defense and it's the the most important thing in a football team so i'm not convinced about Kolarov (and Basta) playing in the 433 formation.

Calm down dude.

Nobody is making Svilar a starter. Unless he has some crazy breakout season for Benfica, Stojkovic is most likely going to be the #1 keeper choice for the upcoming WC. After that, it's up to Rajko and Svilar to battle it out for first choice. Competition for GK is great because many times goalkeepers can become complacent and lazy because they know there's nobody better than them on the roster.

Anyhow, kid is starting for a top club in Europe.
He's better than our 3rd choice keeper whose name I can never even remember aka irrelevant.

Another good thing is if we find out that Svilar is not good enough for the WC, we have capped him already and we can demote him to the U21 team where we don't have a great selection of keepers. This is great news because the current U21 qualifications/tournament is also the qualifier for the 2020 Olympics which would be HUGE for us and this current generation for the exposure and recognition. Plus, it's arguably our most talented U21 generation that we've ever had.

So, I don't see what issues you have with calling up Svilar unless you are Aleksandar Jovanovic and by your actions you might actually be him! :surprise:


:devil2:

-He's not really a starter at Benfica because he only played 4 games. Plus Benfica isn't a top club this season.
-The issue is that he doesn't deserve a call up, he didn't made impressive debuts if we don't consider him as a 18 years old kid. He seems talented, but he has a lot to learn.

Who's begging though? His father came out and pleaded for us to call his son up.

We lost out on guys like Arnautovic and Mirotic (basketball) because of our stubbornness. Let's not make the same mistakes now.

-He can play for the u21 team.
-If Svilar wants to play for us, he can wait, he's only 18.

 

[DedinjeDisciple]

What a ****ing shambles.

We qualify for a World Cup and ofcourse, the only manager who has had any sort of stability (mentally and in terms of time) since Antic, is sacked.

Pathetic decision. If you offset Muslin staying and being a bit hard-headed against best case scenario it STILL doesn't guarantee an improved WC showing. New manager, if he is an improvement at all, will have next to no time to work with these guys. Plus what will this do to squad morale? Bet guys like Matic are furious but will play along because this is the circus that is Serbian NT footy.

I don't trust them to get a better coach than Muslin. It won't happen.

 

[Gibraldo]

Bane, Vidic, Subotic and Kolarov all choked in defense and fell apart miserably.

3 goals conceded in 3 matches. It was not the defense. We had chances for a 5-2 vs. australia.

 

[Gibraldo]

We qualify for a World Cup and ofcourse, the only manager who has had any sort of stability (mentally and in terms of time) since Antic, is sacked.

Sorry to disagree. His explanations on why to reject SMS were laughable. Costacurta made fun of us propably having a line up of prodigies in midfield, if we can afford leaving out SMS. Bosnia and Montenegro drooled for "signing" him to play for them and couldn't imagine our stupidity. But the boy had a spine and rejected it.

It is ok, if Muslin has a beef with him. But he didn't mentioned that. Instead of, he miracled some phrases about 3 attributes a player must have to be called up by him. No one understood that and the funny thing is that "playing regularily at his club" is non of the criteria as we could see with both maksimovic or z. tosic. If Muslin would have had the guts to say: I don't like him. He is an egoist. He is too slow. He is too tall. He called my mother a ... or whatever, than i would have had respect for his decision. But trying to make the world believe that SMS is not even good enough for the bench is nothing else but a joke. He disarmed himself with such a stupid estimation. I am sure, he was asked by Kokeza why he does not call SMS up, and he said: because i decide and SMS will not go to Asia in November. And Kokeza ask "why" and Muslin says...because I decide.

If I were at Kokeza's place, I would have replied....no, you don't decide anymore...you are fired....I don't have trust in what you do.