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Crazy day, Zenit came to Portugal and dropped off 100m, taking both Hulk and Witsel.

Zenit activated the 40m Euro buyout clause in Witsel's deal and off he goes.

Accoding to MF, you offered him a new deal and tried to convince him to stay today, but no luck. Seems the money of the Russians is too much for these guys.

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De acordo com o que Maisfutebol apurou, os responsáveis do Benfica tudo fizeram para tentar manter o jogador.

Luís Filipe Vieira chegou a oferecer-se a renovação, aumento de salário e subida da cláusula de rescisão. Witsel ainda hesitou, mas acabou por aceitar a oferta milionária do Zenit.


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Midfield now has no Witsel and no Javi Garcia. Carlos Martins and Matic pairing... anybody else even in the squad? JJ can't be happy!
It really sucks but there was nothing we could have done here, they paid the buy out clause and Witsel agreed to go.

Au revoir mon ami Axel and Thank you for your time at our club.
 
Too huge of a whole to make up with what is currently onthe squad. Perhaps in the winter transfer we can get Manny back. Hopefully it won't be too late.
 
So, no Garcia, Witsel or Nolito? Maybe we should sell Aimar while we're at it. :yuck:
Nolito stayed. The Nolito-Silvio swap didn't happen.

Benfica 2012/2013:

Artur Moraes
Paulo Lopes
Júlio César

LuisĂŁo
Luisinho
Maxi Pereira
Ezequiel Garay
Melgarejo
Miguel VĂ­tor
Jardel

Bruno César
Nolito
Pablo Aimar
Ola John
Carlos Martins
Salvio
Nicolás Gaitán
Matic
Enzo Peréz

Óscar Cardozo
Rodrigo
Alan Kardec
Lima
 
Javi Garcia forced out as far as we're told, "too good of a deal" to pass up for him in Man City, as for Witsel Zenit offered to pay the 40 million Euro and convinced him to go, when that happens the player can say not but the $$$$ spoke higher.

Good luck to you Axel and I'm sure we'll have new players in January, hopefully won't be too late by then.
 
Breakdown:

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Who paid the other $20M. Zenit insists they paid $40M for each player. So where did the other $20M come from? And since when is $20M 15% of $60M?

That's some fuzzy math.
 
Who paid the other $20M. Zenit insists they paid $40M for each player. So where did the other $20M come from? And since when is $20M 15% of $60M?

That's some fuzzy math.
With Russia's government having a couple of guys already bashing the transfers, it wouldn't surprise me if Zenit are just trying to save face.

Porto owned 85% of Hulk and got 40m for their 85%. The additional 20m covered the 15% from DIS, the agent comissions, player sign-on fee, and the payment to the solidary fund in Japan that facilitated his first transfer.

Anyhow, what are your thoughts on the deals Pila? Content that our clubs did good business and got good money, or disappointed that our league continues to get weaker? I've been reading and hearing so many mixed opinions on the matter. My dad, for example, says he couldn't care less about the money going into the pockets of LFV/PdC/etc., he just cares about the quality of our league and it's gone downhill this summer. Your thoughts?
 
Also, Zenit did NOT exercise Witsel's buyout clause.

Zenit said they are paying Witsel's 40m in 3 installments, which means Benfica agreed to the deal. A buyout clause is a fixed sum of money to be paid all up front to release the player from his contract, any deferring of the payments is negotiated upon.

Seems LFV is trying to save face, but the truth is he negotiated Javi Garcia and Witsel's sales both.
 
With Russia's government having a couple of guys already bashing the transfers, it wouldn't surprise me if Zenit are just trying to save face.

Porto owned 85% of Hulk and got 40m for their 85%. The additional 20m covered the 15% from DIS, the agent comissions, player sign-on fee, and the payment to the solidary fund in Japan that facilitated his first transfer.

Anyhow, what are your thoughts on the deals Pila? Content that our clubs did good business and got good money, or disappointed that our league continues to get weaker? I've been reading and hearing so many mixed opinions on the matter. My dad, for example, says he couldn't care less about the money going into the pockets of LFV/PdC/etc., he just cares about the quality of our league and it's gone downhill this summer. Your thoughts?
Pinto Of the Coast said Hulk was sold for $60M, they only got $40M, and Zenit insists they paid $40M. You can't just go around and lie about $20M.

Let's give Pinto of the Coast the benefit of the doubt here, after all, his integrity has never been questioned before, so let's get my trusty calculator and see how this 15% of a 60M pass is worth-

$60M - 15% = $51M.

So in reality Zenit either paid $51M for 85% of the pass, or there is a missing $9M somewhere, unaccounted for.

Perhaps that's what's clogging up Pinto of the Coast's arteries.
 
That's a disrespectful comment for somebody who had open heart surgery yesterday morning.

Show some class. I would never joke about somebody's serious medical health, no matter who it is.
 
That's a disrespectful comment for somebody who had open heart surgery yesterday morning.

Show some class. I would never joke about somebody's serious medical health, no matter who it is.
I was a bit disappointed he made it through his first morning, but not surprised, with black magic on his side and all.

Your feigned sense of decency to deflect the embarrassment of being a Portista trying to make sense of Pinto of the Coast's ridiculous lie was amusing, though.
 
Classless.

I hope you teach your kids better ethics than that.
 
You hope of no such thing, son.

Classless is the duplicity of self-righteous Portistas, who willingly champion a goon whose abhorrent crimes span across a large majority of any moral scale throughout the ages.

Now try to have enough self-respect to stop trolling and feigning violence of your fragile moral sense of decency and stick to the topic of real interest, filhote. You're a married man now, with responsibilities, and at some point, maybe even a family. Time will become increasingly short for you to spend on false moral indignities.
 
I asked you a question, you ignored it and went into attack mode. Don't go crying now that I replied to you and continuously expose you for the two-faced, ignorant, fat, gutless human being that you are.
 
I asked you a question, you ignored it and went into attack mode. Don't go crying now that I replied to you and continuously expose you for the two-faced, ignorant, fat, gutless human being that you are.
Well, at least now we know the real reason for your frivolous moral indignation - you got defensive over the fact that you thought I was ignoring you.

I wasn't ignoring your pointed question, I merely felt that we had to resolve the first point of the conversation before moving on.

How about you try to be honest for a change?
 
Well, at least now we know the real reason for your frivolous moral indignation - you got defensive over the fact that you thought I was ignoring you.

I wasn't ignoring your pointed question, I merely felt that we had to resolve the first point of the conversation before moving on.

How about you try to be honest for a change?
I'll take your silence as admission that Pinto of the Coast's claim of $60M for Hulk doesn't really add up to you either and he was just blowing smoke to save face on that $50M rejection lie. Fine - good of you to admit that.

Teams in our league have to perpetually sell players at profits in order to stay competitive with the giants in Europe, so taking chances on young players and raising them to future super lucrative deals is in integral part of staying competitive in Europe.

In this case, for Porto it's a good deal because the eventual move was anticipated, and doesn't necessarily leave the club with glaring weaknesses.

For Benfica, contrary to Javi's exit, the sell of Witzel was not anticipated and thus not planned for. So despite the lucrative transaction, combined with Garcia's exit, this leaves the club incredibly vulnerable in all competitions, which in the end may prove to be more costly than the 30-odd million they made on the deal. This will be very difficult to overcome.
 
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