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When will Macedonia play Greece?

2.3K views 44 replies 17 participants last post by  Poland-Cement  
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Ok this has been bothering me for a while now, notice how Macedonia NT has been playing under FIFA for 14 years now and yet we havent played even one friendly game with our southern neighbour Greece. Yeah i know people will say its coz of the "name issue dispute" but honestly, i dont think this name issue can be much of a problem for a simple soccer game, can it??

Id really like to see MK play GR, i believe that on paper we are even teams, they might have a better midfield but we have a better defense.. cant wait to play them one day.
 
#2 ·
Se plasat od nas.
they lost against albania in tirana in the WC qualifys now imagine the come skopje loooooooooooooooooooooooooool we would destroy them.
 
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#5 ·
Why open a thread like this you know it wont be long before some one sparks some political debate. To answer your question I don't think we will play anytime soon and like FORCA_SHQIPERIA said there is some chance we will get drawn into the same group...
 
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I would love a Greek-Macedonia meet up, i dont think we would lose an games VS Greece.. As a matter of fact i think Macedonia are a bit stronger then Greece today.. This is one of the games where the players will be 1000% focused and will run for 200 min if needed, this is one of the reasons why we will not lose VS Greece in a soccer game today...

Greek are poorer today then 2004, we are stronger have younger and better players then 2004... I would say on paper 45/55 Macedonia today... I think Greece will drow on Gratski and Macedonia wil win in Athen -)

The only Greek-Macedonian meet up so far have been in Tennis and Handball (bothe girls and man) and we won in everything who have been playd so far against them-)

They where to scared to play us in Futsal just a monthe ago, they would have lost for sure, they did not show up in Veles...

They would beat us in Vollyball and Basketball, An Basketball game today will be much harder then 4-5 years ago but still they are among the best 3 teams in the world, thats a fact..


Politics, provoke and propaganda:

It will be tones of them and most likely fights as well but who cares as long we win -)))


PS!, yes the topic indeed is risky -))))

The answer to your question: Greeks are to scard to lose now days..
 
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Naum said:
PS!, yes the topic indeed is risky -))))
Yes and its a worthless topic because theres nothing to discuss since we arent fortune tellers or work for FIFA :pp

Great_Macedonian if you really want an answer to your question your better off seeing a fortune teller and while your at it ask him/her when will Macedonia qualify ;)
 
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#9 ·
I know it would be exiting for Macedonians and Greeks, but such a match should be rather played as match for points, in WC or Euro qualifications. Game against Greece is something more than a usuall game, so it shouldn't be played as a friendly cos friendly game should be a match to test new players to the NT, not a must-win game.
 
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Naum said:
As a matter of fact i think Macedonia are a bit stronger then Greece today.. I would say on paper 45/55 Macedonia today...
The answer to your question: Greeks are to scard to lose now days..
Sure naum.
 
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Nothing might happen anyways just look at when Vardar played that Greek team in handball or when Pelister played Kilkis in the challenge cup yes there was some hateful chants and stuff but nothing got out of hand cause there was no away supporters and the security was tight. The only way there would be big trouble is if a club team like Olympiakos played Vardar and there was away supporters at each game.


They have plenty of fun in Australia. :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=McCtK0gMfbs&mode=related&search=
 
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Vo site sportovi sto sme gi igrale dosega so grcite sme gi pobeduvale. Taka da mislam deka Makedonija veke se ima pokazano protiv niv. I jas mislam deka Makedonija vo Skopje sigurno bi pobedila, no ne sum siguren dokolku bi igrale vo gosti.
 
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Icarus said:
Sure naum.

Whats so speciell with your present team ? even if you play in group that suck compared with others you will still not make it, i,m sure..

I think we will beat you.. To your federation, anywhere anytime... I want to beat you ín your home in Athen..
 
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Ambis said:
Nothing might happen anyways just look at when Vardar played that Greek team in handball

A lot of political provokes in that game, a part from that after the game PAOK supporters totaly destroyd our player buss... also writen a lot of things on the buss.. vardar wos escort to the border with the police later...

At least PAOK payd for the buss but 0nly cos IHF forced them, they also gott a separate fine..

You have it in FC Vardar topic in the arkive that newspapers reported..... To say nothing happened is not the true..

At least we won -)))) as alöl the time when we playd a greek NT or greeks team so far in any sport we playd them so far...

All this for a handball games, just imagen what will it be in a soccer game lol
 
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Its funny to see how the greeks managed to avoid a frindly in any sport against us.
yes I would see Grecce vs mac too.
but you cant press them to play macedonia because they always belive its greek.:rollani:

but hey the time will come and then we will strike back:strong:
 
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Alex-10 no need to cry about this thread, if you dont like the topic and think its useless then dont post in it... how often do i open a thread up anyways?? actually this is only the second thread ive opened after the one on Sasko Pandev, a thread which some of you also had a cry about saying he isnt that good to "deserve a thread dedicated to him"... thats the problem with most of you, you always discuss the same players and avoid less popular or controversial topics. I only open a topic which has not been discussed, atleast not since ive been a member on this forum. I do not need no fortune teller to tell me if MK can beat GR, that was not the point of the thread.. the point was to see what others think regarding why we havent played them yet and who thinks we will play them and if and when we do play them what could the outcome be both politically and on the field... im making conversation and if some of you dont like the topic dont read it and keep discussing the same shit... i like to discuss the un-discussed.
 
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This is good thread, unless it goes off topic.

Yeah i know people will say its coz of the "name issue dispute" but honestly, i dont think this name issue can be much of a problem for a simple soccer game, can it??
I know that is not what you wanted to hear, but yes, that is it. Although, there are friendly matches played betwen clubs, arent there?

But since this would be "friendly", and we cant have friendly with southern neigbour, i think its better to play other teams, and wait untill we are drawn together in one group. And beside its absurd to play friendly with someone that doesnt recognize us .....
 
#19 ·
Ambis said:
Nothing might happen anyways just look at when Vardar played that Greek team in handball
Vardar knocked off two Greek handball teams this year, it brought joy to my heart:lick:
 
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#21 ·
Mislam deka ne treba da igrame priatelska so Grcija dodeka ne se naucat da bidat civilzirani..


Демолиран автобусот на Вардар во Солун

По завршување на натпреварот во Солун, автобусот со кој допатувале ракометарите на Вардар П. бил демолиран, а домаќинот не презел никаква одговорност, велејќи дека тоа е сигурно дело на навивачи. Автобусот бил ишаран и со пораки напишани на грчки и на англиски јазик - Грција, ПАОК, Фуцк ѕоу Скопје (Еби се Скопје). Вардар Про имаа многу проблеми да се вратат во Скопје.

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Настрада автобусот на вардарци


Првото официјално гостување на Вардар во Грција како да не можеше да мине без инцидент од политичка природа. Откако на спортски терен покажаа кој е подобар, "црвено-црните" непријатно се изненадиле од состојбата на автобусот со којшто патуваа за Солун на гостувањето кај ПАОК во рамките на второто коло на КПК. Покрај ова целиот автобус бил со графити на политичка основа, што покажува дека Грците и натаму не можат без да мешаат политика во спортот.
 
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Naum said:
Whats so speciell with your present team ? even if you play in group that suck compared with others you will still not make it, i,m sure..

I think we will beat you.. To your federation, anywhere anytime... I want to beat you ín your home in Athen..
Okay naum. :rollani: :rollani:
 
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Ambis said:
Well we did beat you in Tennis and Handball and we havent played each other in anything else but i cant wait for the day when we are drawn in the same group hopefully it happens for WC 2010 qual.
If we ever play in a major sport Ambis, you are clearly in the underdog side of the equation. And this is the truth. You have Greece who are European champions in football and basketball. Handball aside.

Now anyone wants to say any side can loose on any given day fine, but in the major sports the 2 countries are on different levels, football included. I know you have some good players, but in all reality, to say you are favourites is a joke. Not when you have players playing in Cyprus on your NT.
 
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Icarus said:
If we ever play in a major sport Ambis, you are clearly in the underdog side of the equation. And this is the truth. You have Greece who are European champions in football and basketball. Handball aside.

Now anyone wants to say any side can loose on any given day fine, but in the major sports the 2 countries are on different levels, football included. I know you have some good players, but in all reality, to say you are favourites is a joke. Not when you have players playing in Cyprus on your NT.

Well Tennis is a major global sport is it not :rollani: , you know greece is not the whole world?? and we beat you. also Handball is a bigg europ sport and we beat you all the times, just cos tennis and handball are small sports in greece it dont mean that sport are small globaly handball is much bigger then Waterpool and also bigger then Vollyball in europ. Also Handball is bigger sport then Basketball in europ, Handball have the advantage in europ but world wide Basketball is bigger as you have latin america and northe america where the sport is bigg as well, but in the europ continent Handball is bigger. I cant remember any basketball championchip that have been so visited by so many people in europ as the handball WC in Germany.

You have been consistent in Basteball for a very long thats an fact and you beat us in that sport thats the reality, however you will not beat us with +20 since today we at least keep the same level as Israel and BIH, most likely we are even a bitt better then BHI and Israel today as we have 6-7 very good individual players, i would say Greece will win with +.10 but not more, i mean Greece normaly dont beat BIH and Israel with +20 and we are better then them today... Your Vollyball NT will beat our NT for sure its no dout about it but greek clubb teams will have problems beating Rabotnicki.

In fight sport we are better and our fighters will knock out your anytime everywhere, you are better at track and field but on the others hand most of the greeks use sport drugs as i have read, ramember the Greek olympics :howler: how the tryd to hide from it, motorcycle accident.


Soccer hehe, your so wrong amigo,your so wrong. soccer is not like basketball where you have been consistent topp europ team for a long time.. Dude you have Q only 3 times for an major torny in 100 years give us 100 years and we will do the same at least.. wow what an major soccer force then only Q onece every 33 years by statistic :howler:

You won the EC 2004 but only god knows how, that a team that normaly dont even Q for tornys and then all of a sudden not only that they Q but also won is almsot unreal.. Yu won but you did not play well and did not deserve it, i think no greek would nover edmit that you did not play good soccer and thet you hade some bigg luck.. Whats amazing is that you hade amazing luck in most of the games, you most have hade help from above... Post, cross bar, missed chances that players like Koller socere on with closed eyes e,t,c.. Some games you hade about 2 chances for 90 min and still won :rollani:

Right after that EC i knew and i swear to god i knew that Greece will not Q for the WC with out problems.. I knew that luck will not hold forever and as i knew thing where back to normal and Greece did not Q for the WC in Germany.. You hade even great difficultys to even score goals at some point... You playd a lot of games with out scoring..

Your very lucky that you play in whats most likely are the weakest Q group of them all but sill i think you will end only as nummber 3 after Norway..

Grozdanovski play in Omania but he will join Rapid Bukarest, a team that today keep same lavel as Pana,OLY and Aek.. A part from that Omania and Apoel would have most likely end among topp 6 in the greek liga.. Kapsis who wos part of the Greek NT 2004 have signed with Apoel..

A part from that Vlatko is not any regular starter at the NT..

Today there is not any bigg deferance beetwen Macedonia and Greece in power when it come to the soccer NT, to say that we are underdog are wrong, we are underdog in Basketnall against you but not soccer, at least not today, if we could take the game to Holland,England,Turkey,Ekvador, who are all better then your NT then why cant why cant we play an even game with you today ????

With all motivation in it and with the present power the game would bee hard to predict !! 50/50 IMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMO !!!!!!!!!! IMO !!!!! would defenitive not be any walk in the park for greece..

WE have 5-6 very young players that are more talented as the best greek players and they can become very good in the future.. then we have 4-5 more young players that will not beb bade in the future but average at least..
 
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