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England's squad isn't as strong as it has been previously. Still I'd expect a decent showing from us. It's great to see Walcott there. We'll probably play this:

-------------Hart
Richards--Onuoha--Mancienne--Taylor
--------------Muamba
---------Noble------Milner
Walcott-----------------Johnson
-----------Agbonlahor
 
..but very different, Obradović is an attacking fullback while Peјčinović is better as a CB. The big revelation of Partizan this season has been Nemanja Tomić and he continues to impress with the serbian U21's, watch out for Marko Milinković and Nemanja Matić as well, both very good at Košice this season, the first one even got voted as the best player of the slovakian league. We've got plenty of good offensive players, besides our senior NT-trio (Obradović, Sulejmani and Kačar), add Dušan Tadić to that list as well.

However, Serbia have problems defensively as we won't be able to field Slobodan Rajković because of that ridicolously long suspension from FIFA while Neven Subotić is simply too tired to take on a tournament of this size at this point.

Finally, Željko Brkić is a great goalkeeper and he's very dominant in the air. It's just the central defence that's a bit worrying.
I think the worst thing about Serbia´s team is the striker. Like in other years very poor individually (remember last year with Rakic and Mrda :yuck:). I Think Djordjevic is better, a decent team player, but not awesome. I haven´t seen Veljovic.

I prefer Pejcinovic (very solid and calmed, central defender that can also play as a fullback) to Tomovic (great physic, decent technique, but I think he misses in his placing).

Brkic I liked a lot aswell when I saw him: big, quick, good in aerial game. Very complete. Milinkovic is a wing with very good ball touch but also too irregular and I think needs to develop ability to be ahead the defender. Same with Tadic, his individual skills aren´t too impressive.

Another one who could go was Ljajic....

Serbia, a very competitive team, but they have to play as a team, and I think maybe they need more "goal". What do you think about this one?

---------------------Brkic-------------------
Jovanovic-----Tomovic---Pejcinovic----Obradovic
--------------------Fejsa---------------------
-------------Kacar--------Gulan/Matic?---------
Sulejmani---------Djordjevic-------------Z.Tosic
 
Serbia 4-1 FYR Macedonia(Friendly)
Serbia coach Slobodan Krčmarević was delighted to report that his side were "positive and full of motivation" after a routine victory in their final friendly before the UEFA European Under-21 Championship in Sweden.

Confident display
Playing at their training base up in the Zlatibor mountains, Serbia were on top throughout the contest. Filip Djordjević put them ahead in the 32nd minute, and while Petar Stojkov exploited a lapse in concentration to level with a 20-metre shot not long afterwards, Jagoš Vuković restored the hosts' lead with a header from a corner after the break. Dušan Tadić made it 3-1 on 72 minutes, with his long-range strike the pick of the goals, and Milan Vilotić headed home from Marko Milinković's cross to finish the scoring three minutes from time.

Senior call-ups
"Even though we were without three players who are with the senior team – Ivan Obradović, Gojko Kačar and Miralem Sulejmani – I am very satisfied with our game," said Krčmarević. "We were positive and full of motivation, which is very important at the end of season. Of course, I saw some weaknesses but we will use these next days to eliminate those." After the match, MFK Košice midfielder Nemanja Matić was called into Radomir Antić's senior team for Wednesday's FIFA World Cup qualifier against the Faroe Islands in Torshvan. Along with Obradović, Kačar and Sulejmani, he will rejoin the U21 squad in Sweden on Thursday.
 
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I think the worst thing about Serbia´s team is the striker. Like in other years very poor individually (remember last year with Rakic and Mrda :yuck:). I Think Djordjevic is better, a decent team player, but not awesome. I haven´t seen Veljovic.
Serbia haven't had a clinical striker in years and years, it's no different on U21-level. Đorđević isn't anything special either, he's alright, but still scores goals from time to time. The problem for Serbia is that he's injured and the coach doesn't know how much he'll be able to actually show up during the tournament. He haven't been playing much for Nantes either for that matter. Veljović is pretty similar to Đorđević big, rather strong and good at holding up the ball, but the latter is a more complete player and a bigger threat in the penalty area.

I prefer Pejcinovic (very solid and calmed, central defender that can also play as a fullback) to Tomovic (great physic, decent technique, but I think he misses in his placing).
Nemanja Peјčinović will most likely be playing as a fullback although I'd rather see him play as a CB, he has been a RB at Crvena Zvezda since they bought him from Rad. Marko Jovanović on the other hand haven't played much for Partizan so I reckon he'll be benched while Jagoš Vuković who's been featuring consistently for Serbia will take the other CB-spot alongside Vuković.

Brkic I liked a lot aswell when I saw him: big, quick, good in aerial game. Very complete. Milinkovic is a wing with very good ball touch but also too irregular and I think needs to develop ability to be ahead the defender. Same with Tadic, his individual skills aren´t too impressive.
Brkić is a really good goalkeeper, I'm somewhat surprised that no one has been trying to buy him from Vojvodina. Good at penalties as well.

Milinković to me is a wing-forward, not a winger really, he likes to get into spaces and then use his pace in order to create chances. We have others to take on their defenders, Tadić is a great crosser of the ball and scores plenty of goals from his position, he's more of a old-fashioned winger compared to those new and quick, so there's plenty of mixture on this team.

Another one who could go was Ljajic....
The problem with calling up Ljajić is that he wouldn't get any rest before the new season. Partizan are trying to reach the Champions League this summer while the serbian U19's managed to reach the european championship in Ukraine. That's the main reason why he was left out this time, he would've added something extra in terms of passing and ball movement, plus he's improved vastly on freekicks during the season.

Serbia, a very competitive team, but they have to play as a team, and I think maybe they need more "goal". What do you think about this one?

---------------------Brkic-------------------
Jovanovic-----Tomovic---Pejcinovic----Obradovic
--------------------Fejsa---------------------
-------------Kacar--------Gulan/Matic?---------
Sulejmani---------Djordjevic-------------Z.Tosic
It's a pretty good team you've fielded there, but as I said; Peјčinović will most likely be playing as a RB while Slobodan Krčmarević will be fielding Tomović and Vuković in central defence.

Smiljanić is the captain and he'll most likely also play, so that probably leaves out Matić. Gulan haven't been playing much at 1860 Münich this season while he's been used mainly as a LB with the U21's as Obradović has been with the senior NT.

The rest is very likely, but I think Kačar might be given a little more free rolem he's always a goalscoring threat when he gets further up the pitch.

Set-pieces is definitely a strong part of all serbian youth NT's, it'll be the same with this generation. They will most likely try to play football and it'll be tough against teams who's bunkering. Also, Serbia's biggest opponent will be themselves, they need to be a lot more effective than they've been in most friendlies thus far.

Also, Slobodan Krčmarević has been using 43 players during the qualifiers which is extraordinary and still managed to qualify. Serbia have actually had a full team at one point, that was against Hungary and that was when we won 8-0 while Kačar scored 5 goals, a hattrick in 2 minutes :D
 
Impressive Hoeman, most non-Serbs know little to nothing about our football and you know even more than some of the guys on our forum. :thumbsup:
 
Jagos Vukovic is a central defender. Not a striker.
Marko Milinkovic is a striker. Not a defender.
Gojko Kacar is mainly a midfielder but can play as defender but not usually.
Thanks for the corrections. You should let uefa.com know that because that's the source I used for my post.
 
i think serbia has a great chance of winning it.. very good talents coming through their ranks

YEah, they are a european BRazil; great youth talent and they all get sold by the time they are 18 or 19.
 
Serbia haven't had a clinical striker in years and years, it's no different on U21-level. Đorđević isn't anything special either, he's alright, but still scores goals from time to time. The problem for Serbia is that he's injured and the coach doesn't know how much he'll be able to actually show up during the tournament. He haven't been playing much for Nantes either for that matter. Veljović is pretty similar to Đorđević big, rather strong and good at holding up the ball, but the latter is a more complete player and a bigger threat in the penalty area.

Nemanja Peјčinović will most likely be playing as a fullback although I'd rather see him play as a CB, he has been a RB at Crvena Zvezda since they bought him from Rad. Marko Jovanović on the other hand haven't played much for Partizan so I reckon he'll be benched while Jagoš Vuković who's been featuring consistently for Serbia will take the other CB-spot alongside Vuković.

Brkić is a really good goalkeeper, I'm somewhat surprised that no one has been trying to buy him from Vojvodina. Good at penalties as well.

Milinković to me is a wing-forward, not a winger really, he likes to get into spaces and then use his pace in order to create chances. We have others to take on their defenders, Tadić is a great crosser of the ball and scores plenty of goals from his position, he's more of a old-fashioned winger compared to those new and quick, so there's plenty of mixture on this team.

The problem with calling up Ljajić is that he wouldn't get any rest before the new season. Partizan are trying to reach the Champions League this summer while the serbian U19's managed to reach the european championship in Ukraine. That's the main reason why he was left out this time, he would've added something extra in terms of passing and ball movement, plus he's improved vastly on freekicks during the season.

Serbia, a very competitive team, but they have to play as a team, and I think maybe they need more "goal". What do you think about this one?

It's a pretty good team you've fielded there, but as I said; Peјčinović will most likely be playing as a RB while Slobodan Krčmarević will be fielding Tomović and Vuković in central defence.

Smiljanić is the captain and he'll most likely also play, so that probably leaves out Matić. Gulan haven't been playing much at 1860 Münich this season while he's been used mainly as a LB with the U21's as Obradović has been with the senior NT.

The rest is very likely, but I think Kačar might be given a little more free rolem he's always a goalscoring threat when he gets further up the pitch.

Set-pieces is definitely a strong part of all serbian youth NT's, it'll be the same with this generation. They will most likely try to play football and it'll be tough against teams who's bunkering. Also, Serbia's biggest opponent will be themselves, they need to be a lot more effective than they've been in most friendlies thus far.

Also, Slobodan Krčmarević has been using 43 players during the qualifiers which is extraordinary and still managed to qualify. Serbia have actually had a full team at one point, that was against Hungary and that was when we won 8-0 while Kačar scored 5 goals, a hattrick in 2 minutes :D
Thank you for the explanations. I think the way to get the best of these "staff" is playing 4-3-3, but probably the manager will use 4-2-3-1 (Kacar as offensive midfielder instead of "inward" (interior?)).

I prefer Gulan as midfielder, I think he needs to improve a lot his deffenssive level to be a reliable left back.

Krle said:
Impressive Hoeman, most non-Serbs know little to nothing about our football and you know even more than some of the guys on our forum.
Thanks! I like and admire how Serbian youth system is operating in last years. Lot of interesting players in each generation. However, some of them don´t develop according to their potential (Dusko Tosic was one of those)
 
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I prefer Gulan as midfielder, I think he needs to improve a lot his deffenssive level to be a reliable left back.
He's a defensive midfielder, not a LB, but he's been playing there because we've been lacking a natural choice as Obradović has been promoted to the senior team.

Thank you for the explanations. I think the way to get the best of these "staff" is playing 4-3-3, but probably the manager will use 4-2-3-1 (Kacar as offensive midfielder instead of "inward" (interior?)).
It'll be a one striker-system, that's the way Serbia has been playing.

Gojko will operate as the offensive midfielder, he's very interesting in that position.
 
And thats why I don't rate Mancienne, absolutely shocking decision making.

Cattermole is the new Essien. :stuckup:
 
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I can't believe how Mancienne didn't anticipate the ball better after almost screwing up in the first couple of minutes. He knows that they're not watering the pitch before a game. He made the same misstake twice and ended up getting sent off.

The tempo is also to Finlands advantage, they're playing rather well, good defensively actually.

Sparven is making a name for himself :thmbup:
 
England look to be in a bit of trouble here. The problem is it is hard to get back on track if you have a bad start in this competition with the low numbers of teams and quality.

Mancienne didn't look comfortable with an earlier ball that was played over the top that he should have left to Hart but instead ran the ball to the goal line and put it out for a throw. Funny hearing Hart trying to shout down the penalty taker.

Sadik the No.9 has looked prettty good for Finland.

England should be looking to pressurise and isolate the Finnish No.4 CB if they can. He was poor with Agbonlohar for England's goal and doesn't look the best. A weak point in the Finnish defence.

England badly lack a real creative force in the central midfield with Noble and Cattermole. Noble done well in the last championships in holland but that was from a more obvious holding role. Physical play and workrate doesn't quite play into England's hands against these Scandinavian sides as it does with other nations. These teams can match England in that sense and compete.
 
Mancienne really has a lot to learn. That was a ridiculously stupid decision making.

Richards bails the team out, 2-1.
 
It has to be said that Walcott not being able to make an impact at this level is pretty poor, starting to think he will get a few injuries and lose all effectiveness (if he has any left).
 
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