Alper not being transferred is indeed a fiasco, it is the biggest embarrassment in GS history. The club can never recover from a blow like this, I don't know what to do

Kari gibi konusma asabimi bozuyorsun

 

Best of luck to Alper. I think he would would have been a really useful transfer and may have benched Hamit but it wasn't meant to be.

I do feel however that the pricing was becoming a little ridiculous. I think 6.5 million Euro's was a very fair price but anything over that is over paying. Remember we intend to be playing at the highest level and in that respect he would be a risky investment. I hate it when people use Amrabat as a price reference. That was a one off and everyone accepts that he was overpriced. Why don't people use Burak Yilmaz for price comparisons? Proven goal king, previous CL experience 5 million. Our priorities are the CB and LB positions, I'd rather spend big there (although I wouldn't say no to Nani).

 

You're such a drama queen Salt. Let's see hoe good Alper's going to be for FB, after that we can talk about a fiasco or us actually being lucky for not wasting millions on some average joe.

 

olcan anyone? not olcay salty. olcan.

 

I'm very disappointed about us losing out on Alper, I was really excited about him. For the first time in a long time we were going to invest on a young Turkish prospect who was relatively proven - not just in the league, but in the NT and in Europe.

I'm so annoyed with Fener for doing this again. We missed out on Stoch the same way, like BJK did with Topuz. Bastards just wanted him to spite us - they already have a packed midfield. Ironically one of the biggest losers in this whole deal is another equally promising young Turkish talent - Salih Ucan. Ok, he plays a little further forward, but given that he usually comes off the bench I can see him competing for substitue time with Alper now. Well done Fener, blocking the path of youth in one way or another every time.

I can't blame Alper too much. If EsEs didn't accept our offer for him then he's not in a position to move much?

But this is business. They offered more and signed him, what can we do.

The reason I quoted buzy's post above, is that last season I felt similarly bitter about the loss of another Turkish talent I was certain we'd sign - Olcan Adin. He's such a fantastic player, one of the most underrated in the league, and we somehow lost him too. He's infinitely better than Amrabat. Now Alper.

We need to forget this and move on quickly. Sign Melo, sort the defence.

@Fin, in reference to our converstation in the other thread - apart from this issue, why don't you like Aysal?

 

Gotta keep Felipe Melo. That should be our priority no1.

If we don't keep him, we'll be in shit. We can't get anyone better than him for the money we're willing to offer (5 Million Euro). There are some talks that we're out to get Chedjou from Lille for the center back position. Let's see how that goes.

 

Agreed.

 

Bored of this Alper shit already, who cares jheez anyone would think he would guarantee us winning the league.

I think Kerim Frei is a must, that kid has real flair and would be a great signing, Arda's agent has said there are no plans for him to come back to Turkey and Athletico want to keep hold of him.

 

With all things considered I think Gala would have been a better fit for Alper at this point.
But such is life, Fener paid more and they got their man. We'll see how it pans out.

Perhaps they'll destroy him and end up shipping him to Trabzon, then you guys can pick him up and turn him into a world star.

 

Perhaps they'll destroy him and end up shipping him to Trabzon, then you guys can pick him up and turn him into a world star.

Never.


Well, not unless he plays for Besiktas too somewhere along the way... :howler:

 

I'm serious bud

Burak...Sergen...are [the only] two examples - both top class

 

Eh, hard to argue against the truth.

However I do like to say Ha siktir once in a while. :finger:

 

FLASH FLASH FLASH

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/22/chelsea-galatasaray-burak-yilmaz

 

Olcan always looked good when he was young at Fener. He shows glimpses of vision and what not. They had no patience with him because he was mistake prone.

I'm not surprised he turned into a good league player.

 

guys calm down, aziz was always going to come in last minute and outbid us for alper. and this is just the tip of the iceberg, i'd be very suprised if he doesn't leave fener in 1b in debt when he gives up that seat.

the only thing we could have done differently is bid the price up so it cost them more

 

Guys Alper is not that important think we all need to let it go and just move on to the next target, it's not about what happened its what happend next. If I told some of the guys here ah man we missed out on Alper! They would be like who? Selcuk is the best midfielder in the league bar none, lets see how Alper does at Fener before we worry.

I am reading a lot about Nani, what are your thoughts? His 26 and very athletic and has a lot of experience

 

I think the reason why most people, myself included, are worried is because we have extremely weak bench with no one but useless players - Yekta, Engin, Emre Colak, Aydin and that donkey Amrabat who seems the most productive of them all. This is an extremely shitty bench, even Fener's current one (before signing Alper Gotverenuk) was better than that. Besides, we are focused mostly on central midfield aspect - not on wingers - and that additional midfielder could've been "make or break" sort of thing. We were rather poor without Sneijder in at least 50% games without him, and these were STSL games, mind you, so imagine how harmful would that be in Champions League context? Yekta filling in for him? Elmander? Umut? :yuck: You know what I mean, and the second thing is the foreign limit, it'd make perfect sense to sign him because he wouldn't take up a foreign spot. Now, things will be extremely uncertain because we don't know what will happen to this limitation. If it goes or gets more lenient - cool, but if not, we are royally fvcked.

I don't care about rumours anymore, it takes a lot of time to sign someone from abroad and clearly signing Alper was meant to be done so early to gather the momentum to sign another quality players later on, now we have to start from scratch and all our plans are thwarted and we will never sign anyone that quality so early on, especially from abroad. If we get Nani, cool, I would stop thinking about losing Alper once and for all, but with Monaco emerging and shit, I'm cautious about our chances.

 

I think the reason why most people, myself included, are worried is because we have......an extremely shitty bench, even Fener's current one (before signing Alper Gotverenuk) was better than that. Besides, we are focused mostly on central midfield aspect - not on wingers - and that additional midfielder could've been "make or break" sort of thing. We were rather poor without Sneijder in at least 50% games without him, and these were STSL games, mind you, so imagine how harmful would that be in Champions League context? Yekta filling in for him? Elmander? Umut? :yuck: You know what I mean, and the second thing is the foreign limit, it'd make perfect sense to sign him because he wouldn't take up a foreign spot. Now, things will be extremely uncertain because we don't know what will happen to this limitation. If it goes or gets more lenient - cool, but if not, we are royally fvcked.

I don't care about rumours anymore, it takes a lot of time to sign someone from abroad and clearly signing Alper was meant to be done so early to gather the momentum to sign another quality players later on, now we have to start from scratch and all our plans are thwarted and we will never sign anyone that quality so early on, especially from abroad. If we get Nani, cool, I would stop thinking about losing Alper once and for all, but with Monaco emerging and shit, I'm cautious about our chances.

This.

How long can you patiently wait? How half-assed decisions can you take? First grandpa Ujfalusi who came out ok but couldn't even play in the second season, then there's side-step in the form of Dany and then there's a panic buy in the form of Cris. Who can you then blame for wanting instant changes where it's due?

It's been two seasons of building up and a shitty building up at times, poor decisions mind you, how the **** are we going to compete with Fener now and with Champions League? All the players you listed are shit bar Riera. It's not decent quality. Schalke steamrolled us and shat all over our mouths and they were a staggering team at the time. Most of our starters bar Selcuk, Melo, Sneijder wouldn't make their team. Definetly not Hamit, Yekta, Aydin, Amrabat and Emre.

But the point I'm making there is no dire crisis in Galatasaray at the moment, nothing is grim, there's no gloom, but we've built such a successful team, overachieving even, that we must maintain its level of quality and add something on top of it if we want to remain relevant.

And this.

Emre Colak had 2 bad games and he's suddenly useless, no one takes that approach to Sneijder. He played great football against Man U and whenever he was needed last season. Did any of you watch the Trabzon game? He played very well. Undoubtedly, if this kid played for Trabzon or Eskisehir as a starter we'd be talking about him the same way we're talking about Olcan and Alper.

Btw speaking of Olcan he also played quite well in the cup game yesterday. Him and Volkan are a dangerous combination on the wings, if Trabzon had 1 or 2 quality strikers they would become a pretty strong team imo and would have equalised with Fener yesterday.

But also this.

Alper would have started in our team without a doubt. I think Terim had plans to use Alper in a squad with an extra midfielder if Burak was sold. We should have made an agreement like we did with Sneijder where the club can't accept any other offers for a period of time. It is a big loss, do not kid yourselves. In a league with a strict foreign limit Alper was the most important signing. Its too late now.

We need to sign Melo ASAP, or buy his replacement. 2 month of pre season without a DM would be tragic. Follow that up with CB and LB and we are a much stronger team already.

Though I mustn't forget this.

Well done boys, saved me a lot of time :howler:

 

Lets get Jem Karacan and Kerim Frei...

Ahmet Ilhan would also be a good option but would most likely be overpriced like all transfers from within the TSL.

 

I know what would be the perfect revenge. Maybe the player isn't as good but what the heck, Topuz's contract expires this June and it'd be sweet if we signed him on freebie, he's still better than those shits like Yekta, Engin, Emre, Aydin, etc.

Ahmet Ilhan would also be a good option but would most likely be overpriced like all transfers from within the TSL.

No, he's shit bro. Only Alper was the real deal from within the STSL.

 

I think the reason why most people, myself included, are worried is because we have extremely weak bench with no one but useless players - Yekta, Engin, Emre Colak, Aydin and that donkey Amrabat who seems the most productive of them all. This is an extremely shitty bench, even Fener's current one (before signing Alper Gotverenuk) was better than that.

Some of you guys are already talking like we're one of the top 10 clubs in Europe :howler:

Don't forget we probably going to spend ( a lot ) money on CB, DM, LB positions. We simply don't have the money yet to also spend on squad depth like +6.5M for Alper.
Also, I think we got decent quality on the midfield with yekta, aydin, amrabat, emre and riera. At least for now.

Wanting the best isn't a bad thing but we need to be patient instead of wanting everything at once.
Let’s be successful in the CL a couple times more and the money and players will come automatically.

 

How long can you patiently wait? How half-assed decisions can you take? First grandpa Ujfalusi who came out ok but couldn't even play in the second season, then there's side-step in the form of Dany and then there's a panic buy in the form of Cris. Who can you then blame for wanting instant changes where it's due?

It's been two seasons of building up and a shitty building up at times, poor decisions mind you, how the **** are we going to compete with Fener now and with Champions League? All the players you listed are shit bar Riera. It's not decent quality. Schalke steamrolled us and shat all over our mouths and they were a staggering team at the time. Most of our starters bar Selcuk, Melo, Sneijder wouldn't make their team. Definetly not Hamit, Yekta, Aydin, Amrabat and Emre.

But the point I'm making there is no dire crisis in Galatasaray at the moment, nothing is grim, there's no gloom, but we've built such a successful team, overachieving even, that we must maintain its level of quality and add something on top of it if we want to remain relevant.

 

I do understand you. No one was happy with Chris or Dany. Neither was I, but we have to understand that football isn't only about buying players, building a team.
Don't forget we've been neglecting so much things for the past decade. We need to build new schools in Europe, send scouts to everywhere in the world, open new stores and attract professionals to all these things. This all costs a lot of money.
So wanting everything at once is overkill. I'd rather want to have all these basic things and rest will come later on.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot.../sport/football/401931/Chelsea-told-Galatasaray-star-Burak-Yilmaz-will-cost-20m

More on Burak rumours, we need to keep him

 

If the foreign limit gets lifted, I don't care, let him do the damage in EPL.

 

Personally I believe ALL 4 of these things are UTTER BULLSHIT:

Burak to Chelsea
us signing Carlinhos
us signing Chedjou
us signing Nani

I also have massive doubts whether we will sign Melo after all.

 

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Emre Colak had 2 bad games and he's suddenly useless, no one takes that approach to Sneijder. He played great football against Man U and whenever he was needed last season. Did any of you watch the Trabzon game? He played very well. Undoubtedly, if this kid played for Trabzon or Eskisehir as a starter we'd be talking about him the same way we're talking about Olcan and Alper.

Btw speaking of Olcan he also played quite well in the cup game yesterday. Him and Volkan are a dangerous combination on the wings, if Trabzon had 1 or 2 quality strikers they would become a pretty strong team imo and would have equalised with Fener yesterday.

 

But Emre failed playing for us and in case of Alper and Olcan we don't fvcking know, and my gut feeling was telling me Alper would walk straight into our 1st eleven.

 

and my gut feeling was telling me Alper would walk straight into our 1st eleven.

Nah, that's Grave.

 

The latest is we're after Serdar Gurler:

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/galatasaray-ist-an-serdar-guerler-dran/news/anzeigen_123282.html

and supposedly their chairman confirmed the negotiations.

 

good move putting the 20 million pound valuation on burak. sick of our players being devalued because they play in the turkish league whereas they rate neymar 40 million+ because of what he's done in that scrub brazilian league.

 

amazon jungle league, bro :howler:

 

Alper would have started in our team without a doubt. I think Terim had plans to use Alper in a squad with an extra midfielder if Burak was sold. We should have made an agreement like we did with Sneijder where the club can't accept any other offers for a period of time. It is a big loss, do not kid yourselves. In a league with a strict foreign limit Alper was the most important signing. Its too late now.

In terms of Turkish talent there really isn't anyone other than Kerim Frei who excites me. Arda and Inler seem a little unrealistic to me. Nani could easily go to any top prem club so I doubt we could get him either.

We need to sign Melo ASAP, or buy his replacement. 2 month of pre season without a DM would be tragic. Follow that up with CB and LB and we are a much stronger team already.