given that the no-talent liverpool are in the cl final

boy you hit the nail right on the head with this one :wallbang: if they have no talent then how come they beat the current EPL champs in Chelsea and soon to be Seria A champs Juventus?

 

thats easy...that dumb overrated aspect of life and sport called hard work

 

south american clubs are waaaaaay underrated

 

You're a fool

 

If we look at Brazilian clubs, there is no question on the amount of talent they have. But IMO they will fair poorly in the CL let's say, because from what i've seen the Brasileiro plays very slow paced football with an emphasis on skill (and we know how far that gets u nowadays in Europe) and the players generally are not as well built or used to th physical style of English and Italian clubs lets say.

 

yea because talent is everything... :rollani:

not that liverpool didnt have any talent or anything :rollani:

sorry ampersand but i would expect a lot better from you... :nono:

 

and the players generally are not as well built or used to th physical style of English and Italian clubs lets say.

Actually, Alex from PSV looks more like a night club bouncer than a footballer. And people say Stam is big....

 

I don't know if those brazilian clubs would do well but boca juniors and once caldas would surely lift a trophy once in a while.

 

Alex and Gomez both look like bruisers

 

damnnnnnn i didnt realise alex was that big

 

south american clubs are waaaaaay underrated

Because they're waaaaay unknown... in Spain, you only get to see the Argentinian league in pay TV. You can't value what you can't see.

 

In germany, if you are lucky, you catch the goals of the Copa Libertadores semis and final on Eurosport-news. That's all TV-coverage we get from South America, not even pay-TV helps us out there.

 

If we look at Brazilian clubs, there is no question on the amount of talent they have. But IMO they will fair poorly in the CL let's say, because from what i've seen the Brasileiro plays very slow paced football with an emphasis on skill (and we know how far that gets u nowadays in Europe) and the players generally are not as well built or used to th physical style of English and Italian clubs lets say.

Yes slow paced football with skills will not take you far in Europe.. In Europe you must play boring football like Lampard to be considered great..

 

Once Caldas is a south american team, they won the libertadores, and they play the worse kind of football i ever saw...

 

If we look at Brazilian clubs, there is no question on the amount of talent they have. But IMO they will fair poorly in the CL let's say, because from what i've seen the Brasileiro plays very slow paced football with an emphasis on skill (and we know how far that gets u nowadays in Europe) and the players generally are not as well built or used to th physical style of English and Italian clubs lets say.

what a load of shiite!

 

Because they're waaaaay unknown... in Spain, you only get to see the Argentinian league in pay TV. You can't value what you can't see.

you can get a clue of what we have here if you watch the world cup every four years. :shades:

balakov10 pointed out that once caldas play the worst kind of football he has ever seen... I don't know what he means by saying that, but I remember Greece managed to win the european championship by playing the same kind of football.

what are we talking about here? is it about winning tournaments or what?

 

you can get a clue of what we have here if you watch the world cup every four years. :shades:

balakov10 pointed out that once caldas play the worst kind of football he has ever seen... I don't know what he means by saying that, but I remember Greece managed to win the european championship by playing the same kind of football.

what are we talking about here? is it about winning tournaments or what?

Not really, most of the players of the South American NTs already play in Europe.

Roque Junior, Roberto Carlos, Lucio, Edmilson, Cafu, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Burgos, Ayala, Sorín, Aimar, Pocchetino, Samuel, Crespo, Gustavo Lopez,... most of the players of the Brazilian and Argentinian NT already were in Europe. Also the main players of any SA NT.

So actually, when I watch a WC, I see the same people that play the Champions League every year with different teams and shirts. How can I know what's going on in the Brazilian league based in the WC?

I don't deny that you have good teams in South America (we're talking about clubs, not players), but I don't have any chance to know what's going on there. I can't tell you 6 players of Once Caldas and I bet that very few European fans could do it (without using Google).

 

O f course south american clusb would do well in the CL. The country that has the second most number of players in this year's CL was BRAZIL! Imagine if our clubs would be allowed to participate.. we would do very well.

Many teams like Lyon and Barcelona have Brazilians as there base. Santos, Corinthians, Sao Paulo, Cruzeiro would do very well in the CL. No doubt about it.

 

Yeah depends what theory you work off. If we're saying if they were allowed in then in a few years they'd do well because they'd likely be able to hold on to more of their players. If we're saying could the teams they have now do well then they could still hold their own although I can't see any SA teams winning it.

 

Corinthians would do very well in the CL. No doubt about it.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! :jester: :howler:

 

Not really, most of the players of the South American NTs already play in Europe.

Roque Junior, Roberto Carlos, Lucio, Edmilson, Cafu, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Burgos, Ayala, Sorín, Aimar, Pocchetino, Samuel, Crespo, Gustavo Lopez,... most of the players of the Brazilian and Argentinian NT already were in Europe. Also the main players of any SA NT.

So actually, when I watch a WC, I see the same people that play the Champions League every year with different teams and shirts. How can I know what's going on in the Brazilian league based in the WC?

I don't deny that you have good teams in South America (we're talking about clubs, not players), but I don't have any chance to know what's going on there. I can't tell you 6 players of Once Caldas and I bet that very few European fans could do it (without using Google).

In the 2002 WC, in the Brazilian squad, 11 players played in Europe & 12 played in Brazilian clubs

 

The travelling distance is too much otherwise it would be great if there could be a proper competition that involved European and South American clubs of the highest order. Let's see how that FIFA Inter-Continental Cup competition gets along in the future.

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! :jester: :howler:

Why are you laughing??

Is it of ignorance?? :howler:

 

In the 2002 WC, in the Brazilian squad, 11 players played in Europe & 12 played in Brazilian clubs

but how many of the regulars. Cafu, Ronaldo, Lucio, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Edmilson, Juninho and Roque Junior were all based in Europe (if i remember correctly ). While only Gilberto, Kleberson and Marcos actually still played in Brazil at the time, and 2 of them have gone to Europe now anyway. Certainly players like Vampeta, Kaka, Edilson and Ricardinho didn't win you the world cup :star:

 

I said squad. Anyway, everyone bar Dida & Rogerio Ceni Played in the games. Which shows that we have as always, many players coming up the ranks, and players that could do brilliantly in Europe but play in Brazilian clubs.

If we have 71 players playing in the CL, we definilty have at least 30 players playing in the Brazilian league that can play in the CL level with no problem and would cause a lot of problems for clubs in Europe.

Prooving that Brazilian clubs would do well in Europe.

Santos have a better players than Liverpool!