How do you guys rate FACCHETTI? I know he is a big TIME LEGEND over there in Italia and all but was he really A BETTER DEFENDER than Alessandro Nesta and Giacinto Facchetti???

Er..Facchetti better than Facchetti?
Something wrong with that sentence,Dagoods

 

Er..Facchetti better than Facchetti?
Something wrong with that sentence,Dagoods

thank you for that

 

I would put Baresi, Facchetti, Scirea and Maldini in sort of a superclass and then put guys like Nesta and Gentile in the group immediately following those.

 

I would put Baresi, Facchetti, Scirea and Maldini in sort of a superclass and then put guys like Nesta and Gentile in the group immediately following those.

I fully agree. Maldini probably tops my list simply because he has played for 20 at a very high and consistant level.

 

Dagoods, you can't talk about 3-men defenses or 4-men defenses when there is not zone but man marking. This is the ABC of football.

 

I would put Baresi, Facchetti, Scirea and Maldini in sort of a superclass and then put guys like Nesta and Gentile in the group immediately following those.

definitely. baresi, scirea, facchetti and maldini top the list as basically gods for the NT. But Cannavaro, Nesta, Gentile and even players like Bergomi are just in a class below.

Here is a good question though, considering cannavaro has never really played a bad game for the NT, and i know many may say" bullshite!!!", but you think about it, i have never seen him play poorly, should FABIO CANNAVARO be in that list with Scirea etc??

 

Here is a good question though, considering cannavaro has never really played a bad game for the NT, and i know many may say" bullshite!!!", but you think about it, i have never seen him play poorly, should FABIO CANNAVARO be in that list with Scirea etc??

Great question, Okay fine Cannavaro had a great tournament, no doubt about that. But here is another question, what if Alessandro Nesta had not gotten injured? I think he would have eclipsed Cannavaro. IMHO, he was better in the first two games. Please watch the Ghana game, there is this great "sombrerito" he does on this Ghanan player. His passing was/is by far better than Cannavaro's! I truly consider Nesta to be the better player!

To be frank and candid, I have not seen much footage on Facchetti but I honestly CANNOT Believe this guy was better or as good as Alessandro Nesta defending? Nesta is a combination of Baresi and Maldini. He can read the game almost as great as both and he possesses the speed of one Paolo Maldini.

Scirea, I've seen very little of. He was agile and fast but not as agile and fast as Nesta of course. I think, Nesta is only ANOTHER International tournament away and a few more scudetti away from moving up in ranking. As far as talent goes he is definitly as talented as the other legends.

 

i think after this world cup, canna deserves to be in that "superclass"

baresi, maldini, scirea, cannavaro, facchetti and what the heck, gentile also (c'mon, whose ever man marked zico and maradona as well as he has)...

 

wait just a sec.

Maldini & Scirea won 7 Scudetti
Baresi 6 and Facchetti 4

Baresi won 3 CL's, Maldini 4
Facchetti 2 Scirea 1

Cannavaro just had his two Scudetti stripped away from him - Therefore he has not won a league title...

Nesta has won 1 CL, 2 Scudetti...

CLub titles also need to be accounted for!

Talent & Silverware...
both Cannavaro and Nesta are talented enough to be compared with the likes of Facchetti & Scirea (Not so sure about comparing them to Baresi and Maldini)...

 

PS who's ranked higher? who do you Italians consider better - Scirea or Facchetti???

 

cannavaro has a uefa cup...

 

Talent & Silverware...
both Cannavaro and Nesta are talented enough to be compared with the likes of Facchetti & Scirea (Not so sure about comparing them to Baresi and Maldini)...

Incomparable,at least not yet.

 

Fachetti played the best part of his career as a left back and the main reason for his legendary status were his offensive contributions and the 60 goals he scored in Serie A. I don't really see the point comparing him with Nesta, they are too different as players.

Also, there is no doubt whatsoever that Nesta is one of the best centre backs of all time although he probably won't be remembered as one because of his World Cup injury curse.

 

Fachetti played the best part of his career as a left back and the main reason for his legendary status were his offensive contributions and the 60 goals he scored in Serie A. I don't really see the point comparing him with Nesta, they are too different as players.

Also, there is no doubt whatsoever that Nesta is one of the best centre backs of all time although he probably won't be remembered as one because of his World Cup injury curse.

1. Well look at Paolo, he's arguably the greatest LB ever. And without a shadow of a doubt, one if not the BEST DEFENDER EVER!

I just wanted to know whether Facchetti was "as good at defending" as the other titans???

So, who is regarded as the bigger legend? Scirea or Facchetti???

2. That is so unfair but true

 

For me - as regards central defenders - Baresi and Scirea are by some distance the best I've ever seen out of Italy.

 

You forgot Billy, Glen.

 

There is no doubt that Nesta is the best defender currently playing

BUT!!! Cannavaro was outshining even when both were playing at this world cup. BUT!!!!! that is not taking anything away from Alessandro "Magno" as i heard someone here call him

ONly an ignoramous would choose Canna over a fully fit Nesta...that said...they are 2 of the genuine Italian greats

Maldini and Baresi are the two i have seen. I still remember Baresi at 34 makin a crucial block on Romario to keep the game scoreless in the 120thminute in Pasadena. Baresi was just another level of defender

But in terms of comparison....Nesta is more graceful than all of them but he has a short coming in that everyone of the other 4 to be mentioned are arguably the best. Or...it can be argued-well argued too that Canna Baresi and Maldini are the best in their specific positions in the history of the game

Canna is the toughest son ovva B!TCH to get past when he's markin you in the current game
Undoubtedly the best man marker i have ever seen. Esp. considering his height. SOmeone could argue that he's the best man marker in history.

Likewise someone could argue Maldini is the best left back in history

Same with Baresi as a last man or libero

Its tough to say Nesta is the best in history for the average man. For those of us who watch Serie A we know what he's made of. But i'm afraid he will never get the recognition he deserves internationally until he gets over his world cup curse

Maybe if he stays fit for Euro again we'll see his get some recognition

 

Great now this discussion is starting to heat up...keep it coming guys!

 

You forgot Billy, Glen.

:doh:

I guess I deserve to carry that cross. Why did his ass had to age like fine wine ?

 

When Cannavaro puts on blue, it's like his Superman outfit - his performances in Euro 2000 and especially World Cup 2006 are among the greatest ever for a defender. Always there for you. :thumbsup:

 

Captain Cannavaro is better than Nesta IMHO :stuckup:

A true leader and a fine player :star:

 

not to mince words with you tazz, but have you seen gentile play? if you answer yes, than you will retract your statement about best man marker...

 

not to mince words with you tazz, but have you seen gentile play? if you answer yes, than you will retract your statement about best man marker...

Gentile was a butcher.His reportoire of dirty tactics was what's impressive about him.

 

Gentile was a butcher.His reportoire of dirty tactics was what's impressive about him.

WOAH...rough he may be, but i wouldnt go so far as calling him a butcher...

 

Well. For me Nesta, Maldini, Baresi and Canna are the defenders I'll always used to set the standard.

No offense to Scirea, Facchetti and Gentile, but I have never watch them play. I have seen clips, but never watch them play for seasons and over a long period of time. With Baresi, Maldini, Canna and Nesta, I have.

Eash has its own greatness. I think Nesta and Maldini is more comparable. They are the most elegant of defender. Kind of like the ferraris of defender. While Baresi is more of a work horse, tough and commanding. Canna is sort of in between with energizer charged body (does he ever get tired ) and exceptional reading abilities. At this time, I would rate Maldini, then Baresi, then Nesta followed very closely by Canna. I am predicting that Nesta will probably surpass Baresi when he is all done. :hopefull: Though Canna is making a strong case for that also with his last performance. :smileani: