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Rumors and transfers 2017/2018

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#1 ·
Done deal for the 20 yo midfielder Franck Kessié, who will play for Milan in the next season. 28 million euros to Atalanta and 2 million euros + bonus to the player till 2022.
The new management of Milan is particularly active as they had already reached the agreement with Wolfsburg for Ricardo Rodriguez (18 million euros + bonus) and with Villarreal for Musacchio (18 million euros).
 
#2 ·
I admit it, I am envious of the mercato they are having..
 
#4 ·
I thought you guys made the same offer to Atalanta but the difference was the wage offer made to Kessie?
 
#9 ·
You can play on words all you want. Matter of fact you compared the fees of both players. Which is idiotic to say the least.

No one said Elsahaarawy was a world beater. That's you putting words inside my mouth to create a straw-man when you realized how ridiculous you sounded bringing Elshaarawy into an argument about how your club overpays for average footballers.

Midtable.
 
#14 ·
Whoa there, Chuck. Do you agree paying 20 mil for Bertolacci deserves a little ridicule, particularly after the season he had? Because that's all that was said until a Milan fan ridiculed our club, its culture and made a laughable comparison. Now then, you threaten future retaliation?
"But this time we’ve killed for a small dowry almost nothing. We killed this young fellow almost for fun. He was hardly a man even. Just a young kid and now then you want to rape a girl?"
 
#17 ·
Whoa there, Chuck. Do you agree paying 20 mil for Bertolacci deserves a little ridicule, particularly after the season he had?

Criticism at Milan's overspending on Bertolacci is fair, as 20 million was certainly a lot. However, it is unfair and inaccurate to criticise the season he's had.

Freakish injury against Torino on the opening day put him out for a long time. Several months. When he returned and had some minutes under his belt he began to look pretty decent. He then picked up another injury which put him out for several more games. 14 Serie A appearances in total with two injuries (one long-term) is not a fair run to judge any player by.
 
#15 ·
Bertolacci for 20m was a complete joke.


Heck for 10m it would been a joke, simply because he has no place in anything resembling an amibitous side.
 
#16 ·
Seriously, is MID-TABLE, yes in those caps, is that supposed to be insulting/trolling?! Because it's not working really, talk stating the obvious! I'm surprised, though, it needs three posts to communicate both transfers are just bad deals, simple as. Now if an insecure bunch would like to go berserk & defend their, again, second worst end of both, sure.... Actually syncs with the keyboard warrior mentality of 'Milan fan ridiculed our club, its culture and made a laughable comparison. Now then, you threaten future retaliation?'
 
#20 ·
Seriously, is MID-TABLE, yes in those caps, is that supposed to be insulting/trolling?! '
Yes.

When you just mocked others mediocrity, your team finishing midtable should first account as such. Hypocrite.

I'm surprised, though, it needs three posts to communicate both transfers are just bad deals, simple as
Yes. because all bad deals are the same? There are no different levels of bad deals? **** logic.

Now if an insecure bunch would like to go berserk & defend their, again, second worst end of both, sure
I am not sure who brought Elshaarawy into a completely unrelated subject. You say insecure? Look at a ****ing mirror.


Now **** off and stop digging your hole deeper.

Midtable.
 
#19 ·
I for one am relieved that Roma didn't get Kessie. If Milan don't misuse him completely, he's the closest thing to a sure prospect you have in Italy at the moment. Would have fit perfectly with Roma's current style of play, as well. Who knows what ideas they have for next season, of course, but they might end up regretting skimping on the wages with him.

Bertolacci, on the other hand, shouldn't be part of Milan's first-team plans if they want to bounce back soon.
 
#21 ·
I for one am relieved that Roma didn't get Kessie. If Milan don't misuse him completely, he's the closest thing to a sure prospect you have in Italy at the moment. Would have fit perfectly with Roma's current style of play, as well. Who knows what ideas they have for next season, of course, but they might end up regretting skimping on the wages with him.
After the trauma of Itrube I am not really into spending big on one year wonders. Milan can gamble their Chinese lottery money on him all they want.

I am sure Monchi can find 3 decent players with that money.
 
#24 ·
In terms of goals, not in terms of performances.
That said, the risk with the players of Atalanta is that the fact that the team worked in an excellent way as a whole might deceive everyone on the qualities of the single players. Gagliardini was the first evidence of it. He had a great first part of the season at Atalanta, but the performances at Inter were much more disappointing, while Freuler replaced him at Atalanta in a way which didn't make Atalanta miss him.
 
#23 ·
Funny how all the Romanisti were still enthusiastic about Kessie when he was on his way to Roma...

We'll see. But the bottom line is that Roma wanted Kessie but failed, it was not a choice they made on their own. Of course he could flop, many players that age do after their big move. But don't compare him to someone like Iturbe who was never that great...Kessie is on another level as a prospect. And anyway, I don't like comparisons based only on transfer fees or things like that. Just looking at Kessie on the pitch, everyone must see the great potential he has. The top prospect in Serie A, bar none.

About Monchi, again, we'll see. Romanisti are raving over him and I understand their enthusiasm, but he's no miracle worker. Nobody is, and even with the EL titles, I don't think he managed anything that extraordinary with Sevilla. At Roma he's in a better position in terms of resources, but then again there is way more pressure and less patience. Sevilla fans are almost sedated compared to Roma fans...
 
#26 · (Edited)
Funny how all the Romanisti were still enthusiastic about Kessie when he was on his way to Roma...
Who? I know for sure it wasn't me at least or my Romanisti friends.

I wanted him when he was at Cesena and we were linked with him for 5 mil but Sabatini didn't finish the deal (the way he ****ed it up with Schick as well)

not now when both players are 5 times more expensive.
 
#25 ·
But Kessie was much more impressive than Gagliardini, who was more in the Bertolacci category, though a bit better. Sure, it's likely that Kessie will take some time to find his best Atalanta form in a new system, but have you guys watched him play? He's not a run-of-the-mill midfielder that has some good games in a midtable team and gets a move to a Serie A giant. No, he's a player that imposes himself on every game, someone who can turn into a true midfield leader. For Milan, with the epitome of average that their current midfield is, he can be the player who changes the whole team.

But since Roma didn't put out the money for his wages, I expect them to keep their central midfield. Could be difficult with Nainggolan, though...I wouldn't be so sure that all the love he's so eager to display for the club translates into loyalty.
 
#28 · (Edited)
If someone is ready to splash out €80 Million for Radja im all for it. United might do just that.

And to the Kessie not to Roma. Well as i see it and i expect you not to agree with me on this, paying around €30 Million for a midfielder that wont make it to the starting 11, nor would he in my humble opinion be the next choice either. So a whole lot of cash for a sub for a sub. Me thinks no thank you.

And i wouldn't be surprised that when Kessie realized what his options really was. Getting regular playing time at Milan or get the occasionally 10 minutes now and then at Roma, the choice was easy.
 
#27 ·
Kafka, you are really really overrating Kessie right now. I liked him at first, he looked pretty impressive in the first couple of games for Atalanta, but that were actually games they lost and sucked. He had a monstrous serie a debut against lazio, so i get where the hype is coming from, but really the best prospect in the league bar none? Frankly i think there are at least 4 Atalanta players who were more impressive overall this season. I dont wish him to flop and he certainly could be a starter in this Milan's midfield, but he hasnt proved much for now.
 
#30 ·
If you want to win titles you have to stop seeing mere 25-28m sums as alot.


Kessie has been inconsistent, but I defenitely do not agree 4 other Atalanta players have been better, even if his 2nd half isnt as good as before. He is still one of the main core dynamic talents they have, who doesnt scream system player as much (he risks being one too, but not as much IMO), but who stands out when he does due to his sheer physical dynamo b2b approach. He lacks bit technically, but otherwise he can turn out pretty fine as midfield engine for a better side.



Gagliardini is the one I seriously did not get the hype for.
 
#32 ·
Not the type or level we need right now.

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#33 ·
If you want to win titles you have to stop seeing mere 25-28m sums as alot.>>>>

What an arrogant, privileged comment. Stop seeing it as a lot? It is a lot for 99 percent of clubs, maybe more. Other than the elite European clubs owned by tycoons, it's impossible to not think of 25-28 m as a lot of money for a football player.
 
#36 ·
Sorry for thinking you are worthwhile talking to.

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#38 ·
You have to spell it out to antagonistic kids these days. Our midfield needs is someone better then Khedira or atleast as good, aka immediately good enough to start and not another young project who would be at best right now 4 choice after Pjanic, Khedira and Marchisio.


That's litterally what it means, doesn't fit our needs and level right now, even if it would been alright if we signed him for depth. But primarily need immediate starting quality players off the bat for CMs to compete with starting players, Kessie doesn't seem best for for that, mainly technically. Young promising project for the squad is more needed for attack and wings, which is why likes of Schick or Keita would be good ideas from the domestic market.


But infantile poster like you can't understand something as simple as different team needs and pounce on about 5th or 6th choice player like Rincon like you desperately want a gold star for effort.

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