Should't all be forgiven if you have not been selected by your country and
have been playing in your second one for nearly ten years?

 

It's just a dumb rule that you can switch despite already having played for the first country. I certainly don't want to see him play for Germany. Had he not played for Brazil yet I would have no problem with him changing citizenship and play for Germany. But since he did he should not be allowed and if he is allowed he should not be called up.

 

Diego Costa? brazil did not miss anything :LOL

 

http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=304545

 

he's played most of his life in Germany anyway, big deal

It's just a dumb rule that you can switch despite already having played for the first country. I certainly don't want to see him play for Germany. Had he not played for Brazil yet I would have no problem with him changing citizenship and play for Germany. But since he did he should not be allowed and if he is allowed he should not be called up.

why is it dumb? it's simply a new rule: if it's friendlies only you can switch. they didn't have this rule before but now they have it. makes sense too: why should a player be bind to a NT for his whole life just because of some friendly match.

deal with it, people.

 

why is it dumb? it's simply a new rule: if it's friendlies only you can switch. they didn't have this rule before but now they have it. makes sense too: why should a player be bind to a NT for his whole life just because of some friendly match.

deal with it, people.

You can say that about just anything. If they change the rule to allowing a switch even after having played competitive matches already will you also "deal with it"? Because that is going to be the next step.

And to answer your question: Nobody forced the player to play that respective friendly match, he deliberately decided to do it. We are talking about adults making conscious decisions. If those turn out to have been a mistake it is their fault. Basically it comes down to them having to "deal with it"...

 

Why?

Citizenship is an arbitrary thing.

 

Who givs a fok?

He's 29 yrs old and past prime.

 

Well the rules are what they are and if they change then you deal with the new rules as they become.

 

Does Germany really need it?

They seem good enough without naturalized Brazilians.

 

I am not sure he will ever be called up, I haven't heard that he changes the citizenship to play for Germany. I just replied with my general opinion on the matter (which is the moment you have played one game for a country you shouldn't be allowed to switch to another one).

Germany does not really have a good RB now that Lahm has quit but then again it's not like Rafinha is such a great player...

 

All national teams should be made up by ethnic relevant players (ethnic by atleast 3 generations). Citizenship means jackshit.

It's disgusting to see the current trend in football in regards to this.

 

Reviving ethnicity rivalry? That is an interesting idea. History tells us it is too much fun and very productive.

Would be nice to see the Arab NT plays the Jew NT.

 

I heard Germany were interested in Gotoku Sakai, the new HSV right-back. He's got an interesting background - born in New York to a German mother and Japanese father, moved to Japan at a young age. But he's been capped several times for the Samurai Blue so Germany will have to go without his considerable talents

 

Hm, I never heard it to be honest.

 

Is he really 29? Wow, seems even dumber now, lol.

 

Who?

Doubt either nation give a fcuk.

 

Thiago Motta - Well, pretty much a Italian name, like many other Brazilians, especially Southern Brazil afaik.
Pepe - Well, the only thing in common between him and Portugal is the mother tongue, but then again, Spaniards are like 10% of native Spanish speakers around the world, they nailed 3 titles with their own.
Diego Costa - Clearly not Spanish, nothing to do with Spain except that he played there for the clubs.

Brazil will continue to export players like these, just like Argentina with their many italians.

 

Brazilians have no integrity.

Clearly their NT is so good so many of their players see no chance of playing so defect to another nation.

 

Brazilians have no integrity.

Clearly their NT is so good so many of their players see no chance of playing so defect to another nation.

well the number is still extremely minimal (less than 10 so far?) you should not 'generalize' it.

 

It really isn't less than 10 at all and has been going on for nearly 20 years. Tunisia and Japan both had Brazilians in their squad in 2002. Off the top of my head I could name at least 11 naturalised Brazilians for 11 different nations.

Senna (Spain)
Roger (Poland)
dos Santos (Japan)
Clayton (Tunisia)
Motta (Italy)
Deco (and dozens more) (Portugal)
Eduardo (Croatia)
Cacau (Germany)
Mehmet Aurelio (Turkey)
Oliveira (Belgium)
Wagner (Bulgaria)
A whole load of Qatar players

That's without duplication. So yes, I will generalize.

 

I was talking of (<10) players who "could" have any dream to be in Brazil NT line up, like Deco, Senna, Diego COSTA, or Motta ...

Cacau Wagner or those who went off to Qatar had almost zero chances anyway

 

Cacau is a horrible example. He totally did not want to be German because of football reasons. He never had any interest to become a nationalteam player for Brazil (well of course unless you count the dream every child has to play for his homecountry). His mom worked for a German family in Brazil back when he was still living there. When being an adult he always wanted to become German. He switched so that his kids would grow up Germans in Germany.

If you want to point out football mercenaries you have Paulo Rink who took on the German citizenship just because he couldn't make it into the Brazil squad and the German one back then was horrible and easy to reach.

As for Rafinha, I still haven't heard his intention to play for Germany or the intention of the German coach to call him up, so I can't comment on his reasons (yet).

 

I was actually going to say Rink. I was just pointing out the ridiculous number of Brazilians playing for many nations. The names do not matter, the point still remains.

 

Well, I don't get how Cacau is a Brazilian. He changed it for very normal life-changing reasons, abandoning the Brazilian citizenship in the process. He doesn't have dual citizenship. No footballing reasons behind it at all. He just got called up for Germany coincidentially after he changed citizenship, that wasn't the plan behind the move.