[Jamal]

Beckham is not carrying an injury, he has been shit for three years, i hate it everytime we make excuses for this plum when there are better players to come in, he is useless and an embarassment the way he runs about like a headless chicken.

Eriksson and Beckham both deserve a good kicking. :depress:

Spot on Jern, that's now two tourneys that he's cost us. This clown needs to stick to modeling.

 

[Natalya]

Agreed, but Portugal was pushing but not creqating much danger. James barely had to intervene, so I can see Sven saying, we will get through this.

This is what worried me - it was the same situation v France. They were throwing everything at us and we didn't look like conceding but we managed to lose! You would hope that Sven had learnt from that game!

 

[Jamal]

The thing with Becks is that you will never get a manager with the balls to drop him.

I say we fire Eriksson and steal Sir Alex Ferguson from Manchester United.

 

[Great Outdoors]

For P.R reasons, Campbell should be captain as I've said many times in the past.

I would think one of John Terry or Paul Scholes should be captain instead.

 

[Anomander Rake]

Rui Costa's goal was phenomenal. :star:

And the only league in which Campbell's goal would have stood is the EPL. The rules are clearly in favor of the keeper in such situations. The arms of Terry stopped Ricardo from properly jumping. Foul. End of story.

 

[Sabry]

The thing with Becks is that you will never get a manager with the balls to drop him.

You mean a manager who can say no to Adidas.

 

[Natalya]

I agree that Beckham shouldn't be our captain! Most people were surprised that Sven came into the job and kept Beckham in that position (after Taylor picked him for one game to be captain). I think after how Campbell has performed in this tournament he should definitely be our captain, he is as solid as a rock and motivating too!

 

[barça]

Eriksson and Beckham both deserve a good kicking. :depress:

I know how you feel, I want the same thing for Saez and Raul

 

[Great Outdoors]

And the only league in which Campbell's goal would have stood is the EPL.

I'd agree. Players are used to being so physical in that league that man-handling goalkeepers are actually being discussed as legitimate here.. it's shocking to me.

 

[adriaan]

England is out as they should. I truely hope they'll play English football again in Germany 2006. As an outsider I am not too found on what Eriksson did with the team. Hopefully for England they'll have a more complete team aswel, because they lacked quality on many positions. A decent rightback, a central defender that can play football, a real striker to pair up with Rooney and left winger with style. Anyway, England put up a great fight and we saw some great players make their breakthrough on a big tournament. I ussually have few good words to spare on English players, but Ashley Cole, Wayne Rooney and most of all Frank Lampard are players you want to have. Also Gerrard showed some of his class. I say there's a lot of potential for the future. I certainly hope so, because England is team I love to hate in big tournaments

ADRIAAN
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[gOD]

You mean a manager who can say no to Adidas.

Correct!

BTW it was an intense match but none of the 2 teams played good football. I constrantly had the idea that I was looking at a very good game by 2 of the more average teams in the tournament. Still the winner and certainly Portugal who have the home-advantage have a very good chance to reaéch the finals. They have to face Holland or Sweden in the semi's. Which means that one of those 3 relatively mediocre teams will have a good shot at being European champion. After all in the 1 game that is the final anything can happen.

 

[tricolornr1]

Campbell's goal was rightfully disallowed, anyone who thinks anyone else should see the replays one time more and understand taht you can't block the goalie from jumping with your arm!!!

You can be on his way, but not put the arm over his shoulder and hold him from jumping!! Anyone who thought different either couldn't see Terry's arm blocking Ricardo from jumping or don't know anything about football (hey, maybe you can do that in England, but I don't think anyone here cares what you can and can't do in England!)

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

Good game. Very thrilling and dramatic.

Some points i had in mind during this encounter..

- Figo was TERRIBLE, AWFUL, CRAP, MEDIOCRE...He was rightfully subbed off but Scolari should have done that much earlier. Nothing went right for Luis tonight.

- Simao and Rui Costa changed the game. Simao was poor against Greece and also against Russia, but tonight he proved that he can start and play well. Rui Costa was a bit slow but his holding of the ball was much better than that of Figo and Deco. Deco was out of form too and he lost the ball like 84562 times.

- England should learn how to take penalty kicks. That's what now ? The 4th tournament that England gets knocked about via penalty kicks ? Beckham's penalty was :howler::eekani::howler:

- Scholes TOTALLY sucked.

-Ashley Cole TOTALLY Rocked. Same goes for Lampard, btw.

- Carvalho wasn't as solid as in the last 2 games. Rooney exposed him. Vassel too was too pacey for Ricardo.

- WHAT A GOAL BY RUI COSTA ! :eekani: :star: :eekani:

- Sol and Terry both excellent. But what was Terry doing when Postiga equalized ?!

- Owen has played his best game by far in Euro 2004. Too bad for him that his team his out.

- Urs Meier, Perfect. Except for an odd foul here or there.

 

[canis_lupus]

Well to be fair - Spain suffered out our hands in 1996 when they had a perfectly good goal disallowed and we went on to win it on penalties!

Please, don't remind me that match. :moan:

 

[Great Outdoors]

I would agree with most of your comments except:-

- Deco. He had a terrible second half and for most of extra time but did pretty ok in the first half I feel.

- Owen. Other than the goal he did zilch.

- Urs Meier. He had a crap first half but improved significantly after the break.

- Sven must have told his players to all go for shoot-stright-through-the-middle penalties. Why were the first 3 all taken the same way?

 

[Michel]

Beckham's penalty was :howler::eekani::howler:

You really can't blame Becks for missing that penalty. They just showed the penalty in slowmotion here on Dutch television, and the blame should be put on the field. As Becks landed with his left feet alongside the ball, the grass below the ball (so basicly the penaltyspot) moved the ball up so Becks shot it abit out the air. No wonder Becks looked at the spot, no wonder everyone was jumping on that spot, no wonder most players shot it low, no wonder perhaps Rui Costa also shot over and no wonder Nuno Gomes choose to let England make the first kick. Normally one would always chose their own team to start kickin.

 

[Great Outdoors]

I thought the choice of who kicks first is decided by the toss of a coin.

In any case, maybe it's the way Beckham shapes up to take kicks that did him in. He always does it different from everybody else.. but in truth from the TV screens the miss was truly pathetic.

 

[Natalya]

The turf undoutedly had something to do with it - but it also cannot be escaped that Beckham has missed too many penalties recently! He should have wrapped the game up against France with a penalty and then we would probably have been playing the Greeks - who we probably would have beaten!

 

[Michel]

The first toss was which place the penalties were to be taken. After the 2nd toss you clearly saw Nuno Gomes telling Becks to take it first.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

You really can't blame Becks for missing that penalty. They just showed the penalty in slowmotion here on Dutch television, and the blame should be put on the field. As Becks landed with his left feet alongside the ball, the grass below the ball (so basicly the penaltyspot) moved the ball up so Becks shot it abit out the air. No wonder Becks looked at the spot, no wonder everyone was jumping on that spot, no wonder most players shot it low, no wonder perhaps Rui Costa also shot over and no wonder Nuno Gomes choose to let England make the first kick. Normally one would always chose their own team to start kickin.

Yeah, tonight it's because of the pitch, against The Turks because he slipped and against France because Barthez got lucky.. :rollani: