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#1 ·
Here's the official match thread. We do this every week in the Porto forum and I'm gonna try and carry over that tradition over here to the Liga/Seleccao forum.

Well here are the certainties for the match:

*Figo out suspended
*Litos out suspeneded
*Conceicao out injured
*Couto out, FIFA ban

(please there are no conspircay theories for the FIGO/Litos bans)

So here what I think will happen:

Capucho will replace Figo. He's been the most in-form Portuguese player the past 5 months and will finally be titular for the seleccao in the qualifying match! CONGRADS CAPUCHO!!!!!

Oliveira may tinker with the Ireland Line-up and play JVP behind Pauleta which in turn would move Beto back to the right side of the defense.

Andrade and Meira should battle for the vacant central defence spot.
 
#3 ·
I think we need two strikers so i say Pauleta+Nuno Gomes in the front. Also i think JVP is in better shape than Barbosa so i would swap these two and of course Capucho in for Figo :D

Something like this:

--------------Quim/Ricardo--------------

Frechaut-----J Costa-----Andrade/Beto------Rui Jorge

-------------------Petit------------------

Capucho----Rui Costa-----JVP

Pauleta----Nuno Gomes

Doesnt really matters wich gk since he wont have much to do the whole match... :D:D:D Also i prefer Frechaut to Beto in DR because i think Frechaut attacks better. And we will need two good attacking left & right defenders since they wont have much to defend either...
 
#4 ·
that looks like a good line-up....I'm predicting that Beto, Andrade and Meira are all battling for that central defender spot....and Petit showed that he is one of the best if not the best Portuguese trinco.

Peixe?Petit? or Costinha? :D
 
#5 ·
yeah i think no-one has Praised Petit Or FRECHAUT who i feel both played well !

wat do u guys think about playing with 3 at the back ?
 
#6 ·
Pauleta and Nuno up front would undo Cyprus. Nuno can play the mid as good as he can play up front and can do both in this game. With our mid passing around and around and around and Nuno and Pauleta making occasional runs, we can get atleast 3 past Cyprus.
 
#8 ·
PORTISTA 4 LIFE said:
yeah i think no-one has Praised Petit Or FRECHAUT who i feel both played well !

wat do u guys think about playing with 3 at the back ?
I think Oliveira has given every indication that he prefers either the 4-2-3-1 system for when we play stronger teams who are threats to our goal, but having said that he is not afraid to use the 4-1-3-2 system which probably suits our game more & this tactic will probably be adopted for the remainder of the game where I am sure Portugal will be looking to rattle up some big scores. The srory here is he will always have 4 defenders, Which is good because come WC time if our defence is not settled by day 1, we will be likely to join Scotland on the first plane home. May I add the performance of Frechaut & Ricardo really made me happy & shows we have the depth to remain a power for a few years to come.

My Lineup V Cyprus
--------------------Ricardo--------------------

Frechaut------J.Costa-------Beto------Rui Jorge

---------------------Petit---------------------

Capucho------------Rui Costa-----------JV Pinto


-----------Nuno Gomes---Pedro Resendes---------

I am picking a 4 -0 win , but if the NT under estimate Cyprus it will be to their peril.

[Edited by COUTO 5 on 04-06-2001 at 05:08]
 
#9 ·
COUTO 5 said:
PORTISTA 4 LIFE said:
yeah i think no-one has Praised Petit Or FRECHAUT who i feel both played well !
My Lineup V Cyprus
--------------------Ricardo--------------------

Frechaut------J.Costa-------Beto------Rui Jorge

---------------------Petit---------------------

Capucho------------Rui Costa-----------JV Pinto


-----------Nuno Gomes---Pedro Resendes---------

I am picking a 4 -0 win , but if the NT under estimate Cyprus it will be to their peril.

[Edited by COUTO 5 on 04-06-2001 at 05:08]
I think your line-up suits the bill. I don't know about JVP. He played well in the few minutes against Ireland. I'm thinking Boa Morte speed could come in handy in the second half. A tired Cyprus will have to cope with his speed and that's the last thing they'll need after chasing the ball around trying to get possesion.
 
#10 ·
I am going with a 5-0 or 6-0 win. Our boys know they need the win and the goals.....we'll fill the net and keep the Irish on their toes....
 
#12 ·
Fellas (and ladies),

Thanks again for these posts. I am a new member as of last week. All of the dialogue in the days leading up to the game Saturday made it all the better. I could barely sleep Friday night. Upon waking up early Saturday morning (before 7 am) and seeing me in my Portugal camisa, she said "It's like you're having an affair. At least if it were with a woman, I would have a chance."

You have to love that.

As for Wednesday, I want Rui Costa to take over the game, as he should. I would love to see Boa Morte come in as a sub. I was very impressed with his speed, though he may have been somewhat nervous.

JVP and Capucho deserve starts.

I say 3 - 0.

R. Costa '11
Pauleta '37
Gomes (sub) '68
 
#13 ·
selecao2002 said:
Fellas (and ladies),

Thanks again for these posts. I am a new member as of last week. All of the dialogue in the days leading up to the game Saturday made it all the better. I could barely sleep Friday night. Upon waking up early Saturday morning (before 7 am) and seeing me in my Portugal camisa, she said "It's like you're having an affair. At least if it were with a woman, I would have a chance."

You have to love that.

As for Wednesday, I want Rui Costa to take over the game, as he should. I would love to see Boa Morte come in as a sub. I was very impressed with his speed, though he may have been somewhat nervous.

JVP and Capucho deserve starts.

I say 3 - 0.

R. Costa '11
Pauleta '37
Gomes (sub) '68
Gotta like this kid's style - and a Beantowner to boot :)

A belated welcome to the forum(s), S-02! I fully agree with you. Oliveira's a knucklehead if he doesn't start Capucho in Figo's spot. This is the game where we really miss Sergio, but Capucho will be more than adequate for Cyprus. As for the defense - I say Andrade has to get the start over Meira. I'm a big Meira guy, but center back isn't even his regular position at Benfica; I'd rather have a guy (Andrade) who's a full-time center back getting the start.

I'd like to see Boa Morte get the start on the left, but I have a gut feeling that JVP will get the nod here instead.

As such, my humble prediction:

GK: Ricardo (Quim who?)
D: Frechaut, Beto, Andrade, Rui Jorge
DM: Petit
M: Capucho, Rui Costa, JVP
F: Nuno Gomes, Pauleta

JVP 18'
Pauleta (from NG!) 31'
NG 49', 68'
Boa Morte 86'

Forca Portugal :strong:
 
#14 ·
Capucho was nothing special against Ireland! If I recall correctly he had Pauleta by himself in the box and couldn't even connect a sure goal! Now I didn't see the game but from what a heard on the radio he really f*cked that up!

Sure everyone will make a mistake occaisonally but to call the most him the most "in Form" player right now is an exageration!

But sh!t if he sets up or scores 3 goals against Cyprus I will eat my words no problema!

It's a shame Vidigal is hurt still! The Portuguese NT could use Vidi!

[Edited by ALCATRAZ on 04-06-2001 at 17:46]
 
#15 ·
According to some Portistas Capucho was the best player in Portuguese soccer. :rolleyes: He's good and he should start on the wing, but only because Figo and Conceicao are out, or else it would be the pine for him. JVP had more of an impact on the Ireland game then Capucho.
 
#16 ·
Sure, leave Capucho in the bench! He might get injured...and we need that sh!t player for the Cup Final!!!

Put Barbosa again, specially in the wing...his natural spot! As we know...Barbosa has all the qualities of a winger...acelaration, speed, crossing skills! Or better, put there JVP...and let's get back to those times when Portugal only attacked by Figo's flank...UPPPPPS no Figo for this game...so...let's attack from the mieddle only!!! :happy:

Capucho missed a goal??? BASTARD!!! I bet he was the only one to do so!!! That play where JVP couldn't score the winner because he dribble his own left foot wasn't a miss...but a clear demonstration of his talent!!!

I, as a portista, don't say that Cpucho is the best player in Portuguese football...it's Paredes!!! And Portuguese...JORGE COSTA...and getting very close...Petit!!!


Well, in one thing we agree...Vidigal's power is necessary to balance the squad. I just hope that he and Costinha return to the squad quickly!!! They and Petit are the men to grab our opponents miedfield, win the balls...and than, pass to the "creatives"!!! Those kind of players are as needed as the "stars"!!!

Finnaly we found another good right-back...now we have Frechaut and Nelson...not bad for a start! Rui Jorge will take care of the left-flank...with the help of Mario Silva in the future, I hope! We earned another Gk, Ricardo...and other center-back...Litos, after his poor performance against Holand, proved all his Boavista knowllege ;). One thing though, the guy only played 2 games as a starter (Irealnd and Holand) and has, already, got 2 yellows...needs to calm down!!! I know he is used to those Boavista tactics...but the referees aren't the sameones! :D




P.S.: I just wonder why the "prince of florence" almost never plays as half as good in the NT as in Calcio...
 
#17 ·
Come on Drago ;) we both know that Capucho should start, but we also know that Conceicao and Figo own the right wing. JVP will also get start cause he's needed up front to create something, but similar to Capucho he can't hit the side of barn when it really counts either.

What we need is a left winger besides Figo and Rui Jorge.
Everything else your dead on.:)
 
#19 ·
Red I agree with you on the fact that Capucho can't score. He's the complete opposite of Jardel, a wonder outside the area....a mystery within.

Capucho has been the best performing Portuguese player all season and without a shout of a doubt deseves the starting nod. I didn't like Capucho until this season, I always thought of him as "expendable", but boy did he prove me wrong. He's been phenominal since the 3-1 loss to Leiria and takes on 2 defenders at once with relative ease.

I never said he was as good as Figo. I've been very careful with the way I've worded my comments on Capucho. I said he is the "hottest" Portuguese player at the moment and deserves to start....don't forget without Capucho we wuold not even be in this place cause we would have lost to Holland.

For years the seleccao unerachieved because there were a bevy of players being selected based not on form....but rather reputation. Granted Figo, Baia and Rui Costa were exceptions to the rule, there were other players that I never figured out why they would start over "inform Portuguese players." (I am talknig mainly about Sa, Joao and Secretario).

If there is anything Oliveira has shown is that he is not scared to pick new players, and especially new players from Portugal. Sadly Oliveira fails to show bravery on the pitch with his "p*ssy tactics".

Oh well....I guess you can't have your cake and eat it :(
 
#20 ·
Marco, you and I have turned on two players. You with Capucho (and as I've stated in previous posts, he should start because he is a terrific winger) and me with JVP. Capucho was indeed terrific for Porto, but let's not forget how valuable JVP was for Sporting this year. You know that I couldn't stand the way JVP played, but this year he played very differently and imo way better than in the past. He stopped diving like a swan, and started playing and hustling. IMO if it wasn't for JVP Sporting would be without Europe. However back to this game...I think both should start based on their current forms. And I agree with your assessment on how players played for the select team based on their reputation...but some have to (Rui Costa, Figo and Baia). Also if Conceicao were healthy who do you want to see on the right wing? Capucho or Conceicao?
 
#21 ·
I have said time and time again that my favorite players are Vitor Baia and Sergio Conceicao. I admit Capucho is really growig on.....but Sergio is still the man :strong:

Plus overall....Conceicao is a better goalscorer....I think we can both agree there?
 
#22 ·
I'm predicting a 3-0 win. 2 goals from Pauleta and one from Boa Morte after he gets subbed on later in the game. Cyprus is not Andorra. They have better players and lots of pride. So we better be careful.

I say 3-0 'cause I'm so confident with Frechault and Beto back there. Beto was very good against Ireland and Frechault didn't take any chances. The kid deserves another shot as a starter.
 
#24 ·
yeah the three points are key right now because frankly i don't see ireland beating holland at this point, which means if we keep our end of the bargain (aka win the next four games) we won't even have to worry about how many goals for or against....
 
#25 ·
We need at least a 3-0! We need to pad our goals cuz if it ever comes down to goal differencial Portugal will be screwed!


Red, I hears ya on JVP but if he could only find his scoring touch again not only would he help Sporting a wicked lot he'd help Portugal NT!
 
#26 ·
If we win our last 4 games I am very very confident we will qualify, even if Ireland win their last 3.

Our last 4 games are against poor opposition and I think we can win each game by 2/3 goals on average. Ireland meanwhile have only 2 easy games left (Estonia away/Cyprus home)

So we have 4 potential big wins and they only have 2 and that tough Dutch game. We'll overtake their goal difference with ease I think...

I predict a 4-0 win tomorrow night. The Cypriots have been in poor form recently, losing 4-0 at home to Ireland & Holland. Many people dwell back on that 3-2 win over Spain they had but that was ages ago now.

I think we'll see a Pauleta hat-trick if he plays :excited: :)