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#1 ·
I think it is about time for us to debate about the Napoli side from 1984 to 1991.


What were the line ups for each year,

Results.... great games and the great playerSSSSSSS that played in that team.


Just rolling out the thread..... :thumbsup::drunk:
 
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#6 ·
1984 Table

Team
Pld
W
D
L
GF
GA
GD
Pts
Promotion or relegation

1. Verona (C) 30 15 13 2 42 19 +23 43 European Cup First round
2. Torino 30 14 11 5 36 22 +14 39 UEFA Cup
3. Internazionale 30 13 12 5 42 28 +14 38
4. Sampdoria 30 12 13 5 36 21 +15 37 Cup Winners' Cup
5. Milan 30 12 12 6 31 25 +6 36 UEFA Cup
5. Juventus 30 11 14 5 48 33 +15 36 European Cup First round[1]
7. Roma 30 10 14 6 33 25 +8 34
8. Napoli 30 10 13 7 34 29 +5 33
9. Fiorentina 30 8 13 9 33 31 +2 29
10. Atalanta 30 5 18 7 20 32 -12 28
11. Como 30 6 13 11 17 27 -10 25
11. Udinese 30 10 5 15 43 46 -3 25
11. Avellino 30 7 11 12 27 33 -6 25
14. Ascoli 30 4 14 12 24 40 -16 22 Relegated to Serie B
15. Lazio 30 2 11 17 16 45 -29 15
15. Cremonese 30 4 7 19 22 48 -26 15

[edit] Results


Napoli finished 8th in Maradona's first season for them.

The player I know is Bagni.... really good DM from back in the day, classy and with a lot of composure.

Italy's #10 in the 1986 world cup

2 points per win btw!
 
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#7 ·
86

P
Team
Pld
W
D
L
GF
GA
GD
Pts
Promotion or relegation

1. Juventus (C) 30 18 9 3 43 17 +26 45 European Cup First round
2. Roma 30 19 3 8 51 27 +24 41 Cup Winners' Cup
3. Napoli 30 14 11 5 35 21 +14 39 UEFA Cup
4. Fiorentina 30 10 13 7 29 23 +6 33
4. Torino 30 11 11 8 31 26 +5 33
6. Internazionale 30 12 8 10 36 33 +3 32
7. Milan 30 10 11 9 26 24 +2 31
8. Atalanta 30 7 15 8 27 26 +1 29
8. Como 30 7 15 8 32 32 0 29
10. Verona 30 9 10 11 31 40 -9 28
11. Sampdoria 30 8 11 11 27 25 +2 27
11. Avellino 30 9 9 12 28 38 -10 27
13. Udinese 30 6 13 11 31 37 -6 25
14. Pisa 30 5 13 12 27 40 -13 23 Relegated to Serie B
15. Bari 30 5 12 13 18 31 -13 22
16. Lecce 30 5 6 19 23 55 -32 16


Napoli finish 3rd...... Platini's last season with that super team that was the base of the 82 world cup. the cycle got to an end
 
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#8 ·
1987

Napoli finally win

1. Napoli (C) 30 15 12 3 41 21 +20 42 European Cup First round
2. Juventus 30 14 11 5 42 27 +15 39 UEFA Cup
3. Internazionale 30 15 8 7 32 17 +15 38
4. Verona 30 12 12 6 36 25 +11 36
5. Milan 30 13 9 8 31 21 +10 35 UEFA Cup qualification
6. Sampdoria 30 13 9 8 37 21 +16 35
7. Roma 30 12 9 9 37 31 +6 33
8. Avellino 30 9 12 9 31 38 -7 30
9. Como 30 5 16 9 16 20 -4 26
10. Fiorentina 30 8 10 12 30 35 -5 26
11. Torino 30 8 10 12 26 32 -6 26
12. Ascoli 30 7 10 13 18 33 -15 24
13. Empoli 30 8 7 15 13 33 -20 23
14. Brescia 30 7 8 15 25 35 -10 22 Relegated to Serie B
15. Atalanta 30 7 7 16 22 32 -10 21 Cup Winners' Cup[1]

Relegated to Serie B
16. Udinese 30 6 12 12 25 41 -16 15[2]
 
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#9 ·
1988

1. Milan (C) 30 17 11 2 43 14 +29 45 European Cup First round
2. Napoli 30 18 6 6 55 27 +28 42 UEFA Cup
3. Roma 30 15 8 7 39 26 +13 38
4. Sampdoria 30 13 11 6 41 30 +11 37 Cup Winners' Cup
5. Internazionale 30 11 10 9 42 35 +7 32 UEFA Cup
6. Juventus 30 11 9 10 35 30 +5 31 UEFA Cup qualification
6. Torino 30 8 15 7 33 30 +3 31
8. Fiorentina 30 9 10 11 29 33 -4 28
9. Cesena 30 7 12 11 23 32 -9 26
10. Verona 30 7 11 12 23 30 -7 25
10. Como 30 6 13 11 22 37 -15 25
12. Ascoli 30 6 12 12 30 37 -7 24
12. Pisa 30 6 12 12 23 30 -7 24
12. Pescara 30 8 8 14 27 44 -17 24
15. Avellino 30 5 13 12 19 39 -20 23 Relegated to Serie B
16. Empoli 30 6 13 11 20 30 -10 20[1]
 
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#10 ·
1989

1. Internazionale (C) 34 26 6 2 67 19 +48 58 European Cup First round
2. Napoli 34 18 11 5 57 28 +29 47 UEFA Cup
3. Milan 34 16 14 4 61 25 +36 46 European Cup First round[1]
4. Juventus 34 15 13 6 51 36 +15 43 UEFA Cup
5. Sampdoria 34 14 11 9 43 25 +18 39 Cup Winners' Cup
6. Atalanta 34 11 14 9 37 32 +5 36 UEFA Cup
7. Fiorentina 34 12 10 12 44 43 +1 34 UEFA Cup qualification
7. Roma 34 11 12 11 33 40 -7 34
9. Lecce 34 8 15 11 25 35 -10 31
10. Lazio 34 5 19 10 23 32 -9 29
10. Verona 34 5 19 10 18 27 -9 29
10. Ascoli 34 9 11 14 30 41 -11 29
10. Cesena 34 8 13 13 24 39 -15 29
10. Bologna 34 8 13 13 26 43 -17 29
15. Torino 34 8 11 15 37 49 -12 27 Relegated to Serie B
15. Pescara 34 5 17 12 28 34 -6 27
17. Pisa 34 6 11 17 17 39 -22 23
18. Como 34 6 10 18 24 49 -25 22
 
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#11 ·
1990

1. Napoli (C) 34 21 9 4 57 31 +26 51 European Cup First round[1]
2. Milan 34 22 5 7 56 27 +29 49
3. Internazionale 34 17 10 7 55 32 +23 44 UEFA Cup
4. Juventus 34 15 14 5 56 36 +20 44 Cup Winners' Cup[2]
5. Sampdoria 34 16 11 7 46 26 +20 43
6. Roma 34 14 13 7 45 40 +5 41 UEFA Cup
7. Atalanta 34 12 11 11 36 43 -7 35
8. Bologna 34 9 16 9 29 36 -7 34
9. Lazio 34 8 15 11 34 33 +1 31
10. Bari 34 6 19 9 34 37 -3 31
11. Genoa 34 6 17 11 27 31 -4 29
12. Cesena 34 6 16 12 26 36 -10 28
13. Fiorentina 34 7 14 13 41 42 -1 28
14. Lecce 34 10 8 16 29 46 -17 28
15. Udinese 34 6 15 13 37 51 -14 27 Relegated to Serie B
16. Verona 34 6 13 15 27 44 -17 25
17. Cremonese 34 5 13 16 29 50 -21 23
18. Ascoli 34 4 13 17 20 43 -23 21
 
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#12 ·
1991

1. Sampdoria (C) 34 20 11 3 57 24 +33 51 European Cup First round
2. Milan[1] 34 18 10 6 46 19 +27 46
3. Internazionale 34 18 10 6 56 31 +25 46 UEFA Cup[2]
4. Genoa 34 14 12 8 51 36 +15 40
5. Torino 34 12 14 8 40 29 +11 38
6. Parma 34 13 12 9 35 31 +4 38
7. Juventus 34 13 11 10 45 32 +13 37
8. Napoli 34 11 15 8 37 37 0 37
9. Roma 34 11 14 9 43 37 +6 36 Cup Winners' Cup
10. Atalanta 34 11 13 10 38 37 +1 35
11. Lazio 34 8 19 7 33 36 -3 35
12. Fiorentina 34 8 15 11 40 34 +6 31
13. Bari 34 9 11 14 41 47 -6 29
14. Cagliari 34 6 17 11 29 44 -15 29
15. Lecce 34 6 13 15 20 47 -27 25 Relegated to Serie B
16. Pisa 34 8 6 20 34 60 -26 22
17. Cesena 34 5 9 20 28 58 -30 19
18. Bologna 34 4 10 20 29 63 -34 18
 
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#18 ·
and your such a tard....:thumbsup::smileani:


If all the experts that come to analyze players that they have never seen, why can't they comment on something that was just 25 years ago?
 
#15 ·
Some players of this Napoli:

Fernando de Napoli: he was called "rambo" for his fighting attitude. He was a true warrior on the pich and a key member for the team. He was a defensive midfielder but he runs alot up & down the whole time, like a box-to-box midfielder. He had great stamina, pace and leadership skills

Salvatore Bagni: another warrior :D He was probably one of the best defensive midfielder in Italy in that period. He had great positioning and passing skills, great stamina and physical strength

Claudio Garella: he's a legend in Naples :D Guys, he was mad. Napoli's chairman Ferlaino once said that garella was better with his feet than with his hands; therefore he was an atypical goal who rushed out a lot at full speed or made some weird saves. A true legend :D

Claudio Bruscolotti: was the tough man, the stopper (marker) of the team. He was nicknamed "Pal 'e fierro" (in naples dialect) who could be translated "iron pole". He was physically strong, quite slow and was a good header. He reminds of me Sergio Brio :D
 
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#26 ·
So here is a series of the Title winning campaign from 1986/87

The year Juventus was not a force anymore, and AC Milan only had Gullit as Van Basten was injured.

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This video Maradona misses a penalty

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#31 ·
The obvious intent of this thread is to show that Maradona did indeed have a good supporting cast with Napoli and not the band of raggamuffins that many like to claim. Maradona and ten clowns win scudetto twice etc...

Its a good thread. ;)
 
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#32 ·
I will have a go and I think it's important to start from scratch. Here we had a team in a quite large football-mad Italian city which was starved of success throughout its history bar two Coppa Italia titles in 61/62 and 75/76 and a handful runner-up/third place Serie A finishes. A hectic city and a demanding public but an atmosphere and temperament in which Diego would revel and thrive. The marriage was made in heaven unlike his previous spell in Barcelona. There was also the card of a regional divide which Maradona used to his advantage, he brought a bit of pride and belief to the much maligned South.

In the 83/84 season they finished in 12th and appointed Rino Marchesi in mid-season. In the off season out went the veteran Dutchman Ruud Krol and mercurial Brazilian Dirceu plus a number of over the hill and under-performing domestic players. In came Maradona, the Argentine great Daniel Bertoni and Azzurri midfielder Salvatore Bagni to strengthen the side. They joined the defensive stalwarts in Ferrario, Bruscolotti and Boldini plus solid Italians in Celestini, Caffarelli, De Vecchi and Dal Fiume. The side performed adequately for the most part with Diego playing in every match, out of his skin by all accounts and scoring 14 goals with Bertoni chipping in with 11 but they could only finish 8th. It was evident that the level of half the side did not even remotely match that of Diego nor was it good enough to crack the top echelon of the league. Also notable were the first few appearances in the shirt of a young Ciro Ferrara. The slightly low place would cost Marchesi and lead to him and Ottavio Bianchi from Como swapping roles for the next season. In a surprise Hellas Verona win the league title in 84/85.

For the 85/86 season a number of key changes were made in eccentric title winning goalkeeper Claudio Garella, libero Alessandro Renica from Sampdoria and Lazio fan favorite Bruno Giordano coming in. The side responded much better and finished strongly ending up in 3rd place behind the title winner Juventus and Roma. Maradona top scores with 11 league goals with Giordano on 10.

With a much more solid defence now of Renica, Bruscalotti, Ferrario, a youthful Ferrara and with Diego fresh from his miracles in Mexico the side looked ready for season 86/87. Strong additions in newly capped De Napoli from Avellino, Carnevale from Udinese (Bertoni heading the other way) and important squad player Francesco Romano would all play their role. There was initial disappointment in the UEFA Cup getting knocked out by Toulouse on penalties but in the league the side was confident, unbeaten at home and sprinted off to a massive lead in the first 2/3 of the season. In the end they limped their way to the title but not really faced with a real challenger barring an aging Juventus led by Marchesi now the Southerners won their first Serie A title and also the Coppa Italia easily disposing of Atalanta over two legs. Maradona lead the team in goals once again on 10 with Carnevale scoring 8 but many crucial goals were scored by the lesser known players in this great season.

The following season in 87/88 they brought in the exciting Brazilian Careca from Sao Paulo and flying left-back Giovanni Francini from Torino. This was also the season a stalwart in Bruscolotti was slowly being phased out due to his age. Terrible luck meant they had drawn arguably the best side in Europe at the time Real Madrid in the first round of the European Cup! Losing 3-1 on aggregate the side was by no means disgraced and once again they got off to a great start in the league going neck and neck with Milan into the final stretch with the Ma-Gi-Ca trio in electric form. The side then hit terrible form at the worst time failing to win any of the last 5 matches effectively handing Milan the title and amongst that streak was a big loss to Milan in Naples by 3-2. Maradona, Careca and Giordano finish on 15, 13 and 8 goals each.

For the 88/89 season big changes occurred as probably Bianchi felt that the current side had run its course. Giuliano Giuliani funnily enough from Hellas replaced Garella, out went the aging Ferrario, Bagni and Giordano replaced by the tigerish duo of Corradini and Massimo Crippa from Torino. Utility Luca Fusi from Sampdoria was another key arrival as was the Brazilian international midfielder Alemao from Atletico Madrid. A new Napoli was on the horizon rebuilt to take the place of the first version but amazingly Inter would just not drop points that year led by the wily Trapattoni, by the goals of Aldo Serena and the drive of the German Matthaus, they romped to the title. Napoli would also lose the Coppa Italia Final to Sampdoria quite convincingly but massive consolation was the fact that Napoli had won its first European trophy by beating PAOK, Leipzig, Bordeaux, Juventus, Bayern and finally Stuttgart in the Final to take the UEFA Cup. Careca top-scored with 19 goals, Carnevale on 13 and Diego on 9.

Season 89/90 brought a few changes again, most notably coaching in Alberto Bigon coming in from Cesena. On the playing front, Renica started to get less playing time while Romano left to Torino, the two replacements/squad fillers were Marco Baroni from Lecce and Massimo Mauro from Juventus. The side was brilliant in the league especially at home, winning every game bar one and finished strongly to take their second league title with everybody pitching in with strong performances, it was quite strong squad all-round shown by 6 players going to the WC in Carnevale, Ferrara, De Napoli, Alemao, Careca and of course Maradona. Anyone of Crippa, Fusi, Francini wouldn't have looked out of place in the Azzurri at the time but the NT was packed with talent. In Europe the side beat Sporting CP and Wettingen before they were smashed to pieces in Germany by Werder. Also notable was the emergence of a young Gianfranco Zola who made numerous substitute appearances and even chipped in with a goal or two. Maradona had 16 goals in the end, Careca 10 and Carnevale 8.

Season 90/91 and the beginning of the end, nowhere else to start but the events of Italia 90 and the SF clash between Italy and Argentina where the always controversial Diego had asked for the San Paolo to support his NT! According to him, Italy north of Naples spits on and hates the South 364 days a year but this one time they want them to feel Italian. On the pitch the side struggled finishing 8th in the league and crashed out of the European Cup to Spartak Moscow on penalties, with Diego missing his kick. Player wise Giuliani was replaced by the veteran Galli in goal while Fusi went to Torino in a swap with Venturin, Carnevale (who had a poor WC) was offloaded to Roma, while in came little known names of Incocciati, Rizzardi and Silenzi, a sign of where the club was heading, towards mediocrity. Nobody scored over 10 league goals, Careca ended up on 9, Incocciati on 7 and Zola and Diego on 6. Maradona played his last match against Sampdoria in a 4-1 defeat in Genoa on the 24th March 1991. With a ready made replacement in Zola and his ban for cocaine use in place the time was up for this Napoli side...
 
#47 ·
Well, this is a very good post. One of the best I have read since I joined the forum. Very pleasant to read too :thumbsup:
Taking it as the base, I will take the liberty to add a few comments, to humbly (it would not be easy for me to describe to this extent even teams of current times..) add a few branches to the tree, so to say.

- I understand Juventus wanted Maradona from Barcelona as well, but in the end Napoli offered more money (Platini and co. plus Maradona... that surely could have been interesting). In fact, Maradona went to Napoli for a world record transfer fee being the only player that ever broke the record twice.

- The first season (84-85), the team was a disaster (Maradona's own words). Though they improved in comparison to the previous season when they were close to relegation, they were still a mid-of-the-table team, like Lobo said. Individually however, and like El Lobo also points out, Maradona was in superlative level. So much so that he had already then started to overshadow Platini, the 1985 winner of Ballon d'Or.

- The regional divide point you make is perhaps true, but it also had quite a negative charge against Diego, no? Became the focal point of the hate, the one they wanted to shut up. Maybe he actually used that in his favor, actually.. For motivation :D

- For the 85-86 season, Giordano matched up well with Maradona and all, but it was also notable Bagni's season, stepping up and becoming the midfield rock of the team. Very solid season. He even started scoring again.

- The 86-87 doblete season, was the defense thaaaat much more solid than the previous year? It conceded as many goals. De Napoli turned out to be a great signing indeed and Carnevale, I dunno. I just never thought much of him. He did score his few goals though.
About not having a real challenger... I think I know what you mean. It is true that Juve was not what had been and Milan was not yet what it would be (neither Gullit nor Van Basten were there yet, Ze). Then again, this aging Juve did better in Serie A than the 84-85 Juve and Ze goes on and on about Junior's 2nd place with Torino that year ... IMO it is also true that the way you Lobo describe most of the Napoli players of the time could be used to describe a bunch of other players in other teams. Looking at some of the top teams of the time (Roma, Juventus, Milan, Sampdoria, Inter or even Verona), they had players in their squads of similar or superior caliber. Take away Diego, leave him in Barcelona, and Napoli, with all the signings bar that of Maradona, is arguably not even on par with many of them. Throw Diego in and he leads them to the league title. Pure speculation. Just my opinion.

- For the 87-88 season, was Careca clicking right away, or did he have a bit of a hard time adapting? He did have a prolific season (in Serie A of the time terms), and formed the MaGiCa trio that worked so well despite the bad ending, but I cant help resenting him (more with the heart than with the head, of course) for missing those goals agianst Real Madrid that could have given Diego -and Napoli- the chance (it turned out to be his only shot at it) to win the European Cup.

- The 88-89 season, with as much quality as he contributed to Napoli's midfield, Alemao missed about half the league games. Do you happen to remember/know what was their most used line-up that season in Serie A? I am an Inter fan, but damn, did they have to be so efficient that one season of them all?!:smileani:

- The 89-90 season, how significant you consider Careca's impact to win the title? No doubt he was a great striker, best Brazilian of his generation and so on.. but he scored merely 10 of the almost 60 goals Napoli managed that season and missed 12 out of 34 games..

- The 90-91 season that began and ended so bad... Maradona (thus Napoli) was just not quite the same anymore. What do you think is the reason for his decline? Simply age, injuries catching up, frustration for the WC, drug problems, all the above..?

Cheers.
 
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