Yup, the same story is on http://www.onefootball.com To be honest I am very, very sad. This is a guy, who genuinly loves our team, loves Spain and takes every minute on the field as a privelage. Why are we selling him? The answer can only be one - Zidane is coming in. I don't think we'd be risking Maccas sale if this weren't true. We don't exactly have to much cover for the AMC spot, where we have Guti and free-role Macca. But if ZiZou will come suddenly we have tooo much, and McManaman is gonna have to go. I just wonder how much we'll get for him? I say something around 30 mln$, but who knows? I am sad, as always when we lose one of ours, but in fairness this is the guy that will hurt least...

 

That analyse with Zidane, i dont think its like that. We are making good profit with sale of Macca nad you all know how Perez feels about money
I too think that if we DONT GET A HUGE offer for him we shoudldnt selllhim, he is loyal club-playaer (just try comparing him with Figo on that department )

I hope we can get MORE THEN 15 million£ for him, that would be my asking price,..

 

Guys, be serious for a while: I have said many many times that I love Macca, ever since his Liverpool days, but I honestly don't see another solution to this situation. He has one of the highest salaries in Real Madrid and since he's probably not going to play anyway (I remind you that del Bosque = the COACH - doesn't count on him) it would be completely stupid not to sell him.

The thing that makes me even sadder though is that we could have used this money to finance Figo...

 

he is very good BUT do we need him.
60,000 pounds a week is just too much.
for a player who the coach does not want so there is only one option SELL HIM!!!!!!

 

Macca update: (from Marca and Libredirecto)

Although Steve McManaman knows how Real Madrid feels about his situation, (through meetings he had with Pirri and del Bosque) he has decided to stay in Madrid. He believes that the big number of games the team has to play this season will eventually make it necessary for all the available players to be used and he is willing to wait patiently for his turn.
He said that he left Liverpool to move to another country and learn new things, so he has no desire to go back to England. He is well settled in Madrid and very happy with Real.

(...very rich too if I may add...)


Let's see what happens next...

 

I'm happy with this response, because it isn't all that stupid. I think he's right about the number of games and all Also he's proving he loves us

 

If there is any fairness in this world Macca shall do a Figo. He should put on Barca jersey and make Real to regret their decision. And if he plays for Barca the way he played for Real, then maybe some of the Real fans will start appreciating his skills and what he has done for the club.
Why on earth Real would not content with playing Redondo-Macca-Figo in the middle? What's wrong with that? In all of their best games last season they played Redondo-Macca-Raul with Anelka+Morientes upfront. When they signed Figo I thought that was to allow Raul to move forward and that would help to make things perfect:
Salgado-Figo-Redondo-Macca-R.Carlos
Raul-Morientes/Savio
What could be better? Arghh...
I'm mad. Real treat their best people like ****.

 

I agree with you, but the problem is we simply have too many great players, and the conflicts really start when something chnages in the board of directors(like president or coach), who sees it all differently and players suddenly find themsleves unneeded. The reason we don't appreciate Macca is because he's english and I do really fear he'll pull of a Figo - we will regretit if he does

 

right's and wrongs are a part of the game.
we have to go with it.

 

labas, Macca is not to Madrid what Figo was to Barca. He's been with Madrid for one year. If he goes I hope we get lots of $$$$$ for him. How much do you think Macca is worth??

 

arsenal were prepared to offer 18mil$
a good amount of money for a player we got on a bosman free.
and furia you r right macca only scored 3 league goals and only had a handful of good games towards the end of the season.

 

Yeah, he's been with Madrid for only a year, but what else he should've done to get "permission" to stay longer?

ANELKA, he scored only 3 goals ok, 1 of which was one of the best in LaLiga and he scored 1 goal in CL that settled down the outcome of the final. What's wrong with that? For an out-n-out striker, yes, that's not enough, That's why Anelka had to go. But for a midfielder, who played as much in defense as in offense, and who spent half of the season injured, that's ok. Anyway, how much did Zidane scored last year at Juventus? I don't think much more than that.

Labas, what's wrong with being English? Are they the race most hated in Spain or when you were watching Real you found that with Macca in a free-role your favorite team had too much in resemblance with West Brom?

And where "so many talent in midfield" comes from all of a sudden? Figo apart who is a decent midfielder in Real now? And who do you think better than Macca or Redondo? You must have a very rich imagination if you come up with a single name. All your Guti- Shmuti and Geremies are not great players, just good subs, that's all. Let's see if they keep you happy and for how long.

 

he is not in the coach's plan so whats the reason in keeping him and paying his sky high wages of 60000pounds a week.

 

This is the very thing that I don't understand:
1. Why he isn't in the coaches plans?
2. Why all the fans quite happy about that?
3. Why so much concern regarding his wages?
He's making 60k a week, if they replace him with a classy player they'll have to pay at least as much, if they sign a so-so, this days it's still around 40k/week. And don't forget they signed him for free, so no matter how much they pay him they still profit. And for a club who are 200m in debt 10k-15k/week should not make a difference, and the fact they can spent 40m. to buy one player can serve as a proof for that.

 

first of all why isnt he in the coachs plans for that you have to ask vicente del bosque

why are the fans happy about it?
i dont know about the other but i am neither happy neither sad this is just a part of the game he hadnt done anything special.

why there is so much concern about his wages?
a player who is expected to warm the bench this season getting 60k pounds a week
WEIRD!!

 

No, ANELKA. They got him for nothing last year knowing that they'll profit. He gave his best and now they dump him. That's what I don't like.
And besides, for example, when Spurs sold Ginola, their fans let everybody know how frastrated they got about the transfer. They lost a very good player and they don't care whether that deal benefits the club financially, and I sympathize with them. I don't think Macca is a lesser player than Ginola and, yet, most of you guys, sound more like you are shareholders of Real Madrid FC and not the true fans of the club.
I simply don't understand this.

P.S. You said "nothing special", I think the way Real finished last season was very special. And IMO there is no doubt that Macca along with Redondo, Carlos, Raul and Casillas were the main heroes, the backbone of the great team that I very much enjoyed watching.

 

From "Daily Soccer":

"I've spoken to the coach and (technical director) Jose Martinez Pirri and they've told me that in
sporting terms this year is going to be very hard for me," said the player.
"I told them I wanted to stay and they said fine but it's going to be a battle for your place in the side.
"I said no problem. I'm willing to work hard and I want to be successful here."
"I want to stay. I learned a lot in my first season here and I want to continue learning -- to become a
better player and a better person."

Real's Web site noted that because of injury Fernando Hierro and Ivan Helguera were not included in
what looks to be a full strength squad but there was no mention of McManaman.
McManaman, who arrived on a free transfer from Liverpool last summer, is one of the highest earners
at Real but despite a promising first season he is unlikely to start many games next term."

Here is another proof that "people" who are in charge at Madrid are scumbags. Macca knows that he is good enough to play for any club that's why he wouldn't give up. And he EARNED his place in the starting XI, yet alone in the squad, and he didn't give away that place with a bad performance or something. But those *******s just robbed him of a chance to prove that he belongs with the team.

What's that? Is this the Real style to say THANK YOU?
"You did a good job, son, now f**k off. Hey, who's next?"

 

From "Daily Soccer":

"I've spoken to the coach and (technical director) Jose Martinez Pirri and they've told me that in
sporting terms this year is going to be very hard for me," said the player.
"I told them I wanted to stay and they said fine but it's going to be a battle for your place in the side.
"I said no problem. I'm willing to work hard and I want to be successful here."
"I want to stay. I learned a lot in my first season here and I want to continue learning -- to become a
better player and a better person."

Real's Web site noted that because of injury Fernando Hierro and Ivan Helguera were not included in
what looks to be a full strength squad but there was no mention of McManaman.
McManaman, who arrived on a free transfer from Liverpool last summer, is one of the highest earners
at Real but despite a promising first season he is unlikely to start many games next term."

Here is another proof that "people" who are in charge at Madrid are scumbags. Macca knows that he is good enough to play for any club that's why he wouldn't give up. And he EARNED his place in the starting XI, yet alone in the squad, and he didn't give away that place with a bad performance or something. But those *******s just robbed him of a chance to prove that he belongs with the team.

What's that? Is this the Real style to say THANK YOU?
"You did a good job, son, now f**k off. Hey, who's next?"

Roberto Carlos is next, he like Redondo and Macca supported Sanz.

 

What is exactly that you guys fail to understand?

How do transfers work anyway (theoretically)?
A coach lists the players he wants to use according to his plans, recommends the ones to buy and the ones to sell. A player is left out? The club sells him - period.

THE WHOLE BUSINESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GRATITUDE.

In my opinion, Macca did exactly what he was paid very very very well to do. The club should be thankful? This is his JOB in the first place!!!

So, Figo was bought. That's a FACT. A player like Macca should be a starter, he is not a youngster or some mediocrity, just to be the sub of the big star. That's another reason why he should go.

His wages are higher than the vast majority of the current Real Madrid starters. RC under his new contract (reviewed this summer) is earning the same. Redondo under his latest contract with Real Madrid was earning LESS THAN HALF. You see this situation as rational for a player that THE COACH DOESN'T COUNT ON?

The way I see it, Macca's case is not so much different than Anelka's. He played very well during the last 2-3 crucial months especially in the ChL games. The rest of the season was either injured or mostly benched. I repeat that I love Macca, ever since his Liverpool years, but Figo's arrival means that he has to be sold. He will be 29 this January plus he has played a number of matches this season (while the next one...not) It's now or never.


As far as I'm concerned, after Redondo was sold, anyone can go. Talking about gratitude hahahaha..... right. That was an INEXCUSABLE presidential decision.

This one is a good one.

 

McManaman left out of Real Madrid squad
MADRID (Reuters)(DS) - Steve McManaman's future at Real Madrid was cast into further doubt on
Tuesday when was he left off the squad list for a friendly match in Portugal.
The England international, who has yet to feature in Real's pre-season programme, was omitted from
the 19-man squad announced on the club's official Web site for Wednesday's game against Sporting
Lisbon.
Earlier, the former Liverpool winger pledged to fight for his future at Real despite being told by coach
Vicente del Bosque that he would find it hard to win a place in the team.
McManaman, reacting to report in Spanish sports daily Marca that Real had put him up for sale to
help cut their wage bill, said that he was relishing the prospect of a battle for a first team place next
season.
"I've spoken to the coach and (technical director) Jose Martinez Pirri and they've told me that in
sporting terms this year is going to be very hard for me," said the player.
"I told them I wanted to stay and they said fine but it's going to be a battle for your place in the side.
"I said no problem. I'm willing to work hard and I want to be successful here."
Real's Web site noted that because of injury Fernando Hierro and Ivan Helguera were not included in
what looks to be a full strength squad but there was no mention of McManaman.
McManaman, who arrived on a free transfer from Liverpool last summer, is one of the highest earners
at Real but despite a promising first season he is unlikely to start many games next term.

FIRST CHOICE
Luis Figo, Real's world record signing from Barcelona, will be the first choice on the right wing, while
two other new signings Claude Makelele and Flavio Conceicao will contest the central midfield slot
vacated by Fernando Redondo.
"Real have spent a lot of money over the summer to strengthen the squad but I don't know what the
situation is in terms of money," said McManaman.
"I want to stay. I learned a lot in my first season here and I want to continue learning -- to become a
better player and a better person."

 

What a great discussion, i mut say. Zico your arguments are very good, so are the others.

To be honest i see this as a part of Perez's plans - that's all. We cannot talk about gratitude, because with all due respect, what does perez owe Macca? Nothing. I know he gave his club a big boost last season, but that was in the days of Sanz. Here I must say that I feel McManaman played excellent, when he did last season, he was a real star, and he was IMO one of the better transfers in the summer break of 1999 (and for free!). Now here comes the tuff part - he is english, you Zico fell this is meaningless, but I disagree, i think nationality plays a big role in this, selling a Spaniard in Spain is always a bigger deal, then some Englishman - also this is a ntion that rarely ever plays in Spain so doesnn't have the kind of aura surounding it like Brazil and Argentina. I honestly don't know why we want him sold, I would easily fit him in the squad, and iff he's willing simply keep him - he was a bvargain, so let's try it out, right?! We pay him a lot, but come on, we got him on a Bosman, which with such greats is very, very rare! We will never lose in this player, unlike Figo, who has O5 chances of repaying the 56 mln$ + wages. I would keep him, I say again, but since he's been listed, what is the price Furia asks? And here i really have to laugh of 18 mln$ from Arsenal. First he will never return to England, for he for one realises how the crap the Premiershi(t) is. it's that simple. IMO the least we should get is 25 mln$, he is at the top of his game, and I'm sure someone would pay this much for the MoM of the CL final. He is a great , great player.

In the latest report, it's official he will stay, evenb though he is unlikely to play. Good going Macca, show them ungrateful batards (I agree with you, Hala that in the world of business there is no such things, but in a code of ethics, Real are simply ungrateful)

 

all the players bought by toshack are leaving.
anelka left
baljic went on loan
macca is on the verge of leaving

did toshack buy anybody else
if YES prepare for his departure.

 

Labas, I'm glad I'm not alone. Hala, ... eh, Hala, Hala... Imagine Real signs Sheva for free, and Barca are willing to pay $50K for Raul, what would you do, sell Raul? Club just signed a good striker, club needs money, Raul's salary is very high, etc. etc. etc. Now do you understand that money is not everything?
But MY POINT is not the selling of the players, but HOW they do it. HOW they sold Redondo, and HOW they treat Macca.

PEREZ is a big ******g PIG! And Del Bosque is his puppet (although I don't blame him for that, he has no other choice).

 

macca will never be sold for 50k
if he will go it will be for atleast 20million.

but we all have to agree that
perez is more a bussinessman than a football fan.

 

Ironically the only player left is GEREMI - and he was the only one supposed to leave! I love him so I'm ahppy, but at what cost? I have to say Perez has no ethics, it's just so sad to see Macca, a player so dedicated to Real to have to leave. Maybe it's not as tuff as redondo, but still tuff. I mean Fernando didn't complain, this guy is really showing he's in love with us Have a heart you bastard!

BTW the newest news is Macca is officially on the transfer list, no questions asked