Yes, IMO the solution can come from within.

We need a rational coach and a motivated squad, and with the talent we have, it should be enough.

If we can hire Rijkaard, who if I'm not mistaken managed to get some team relegated in the Eredivisie (Sparta?) and allowed Jaap Stam to take a penalty kick for the NT , then why not give Pep the helm? He doesn't do drugs, he appears sane, knows the Club inside out, he can pull it off.

 

He doesn't do drugs,

Are we absolutely sure about this? At a time when, at least in rumourology, the spectre of drugs is hanging over Barça more than ever, would this be the right choice? And I'm not talking about that extra joint at the supporters club last Saturday night to numb the pain after Edu's second goal:skull::dazed:

 

Ver para creer.

This is like the time we brought Van Gaal back for a second go around.

I'm sorry. But your club is in crisis and the one you want to solve it is a manager who has never coached in first division anywhere.....ever.

How can people be against Mourinho and be for, with all apologies, someone with no managerial experience of any importance so far. In 5 years, yeah, sure, if he evolves correctly. But don't you think that to be the manager of one of the top clubs in Europe you should prove yourself as a manager first. As a player, no arguments, wonderful player. But being a manager and being a player are two different things and one doesn't pre-ordain you to be successful at the other.

No way, no how.

 

But don't you think that to be the manager of one of the top clubs in Europe you should prove yourself as a manager first.

What has Rijkaard done prior to his job in Barcelona to prove himself as manager?

 

Wait ...
Chupa-Chups is actually the name of the competition?? I though that was a joke and was actually LMAO.

 

I think it IS a joke, I've never heard of the competition. I laughed as well


but then again, there are leagues called Coca Cola, Turbo league, Schwepes probably as well so why not Chupa Chups. Sounds nice, funky.

 

It's a risk, of course. But sometimes you have to draw some bold and risky decisions, to get the maximum out of it. Personally I don't know enough about Guardiola, and I'm not defending him as a first choice. My post was originally meant to get a discussion started and to receive some more info on Pep.

 

Well, he's certainly better than Mourinho, that's for sure.

:dielaugh:

 

respect for u u trusted Guardiola before even knowing what he's going to do all this at Barca..

 

Guardiola will be a good coach and he will do a good job for barca in the future but to hire him now or for the next season could be a bg failure for him and for the club and it could close the door for josip for the future...

I would go for a proven coach and there is just Mourinho and Lippi avaliable at the moment.
I know Koeman has done a bad job so far with Valencia but if someone from the dream team should become our coach than it should be him.
His record apart from Valencia isnt that bad!

 

:wallbang::wallbang: How about Ronaldinho for manager ? He can't play much now , he just might smile all the way to the Liga trophy.

 

I think it would be very good to have Ronaldinho as manager.

The only downside is, we wouldn't have any training sessions, not even in theory. They'd do some "gym work" all the time. So how would they prepare themselves physically to be able to put in 110% every week?

Other than that, spot on.

 

I'm with this Saphan guy and CarlosMiguel I'm off your bandwagon. You disappointed me. How can this guy Saphan be wrong, an avid supporter of Olimpija and Barcelona, we've already seen this lethal combination and it must only mean, that the guy knows what is he talking about.

I'm for Pep. It's time to do some bald and risky decisions. There's no profit where's no risk.

 

I double Saphan's question? How's his personality. Can he handle lockerroom full of cracks?

 

Saphan = Barcoslav

Just watch, they'll now praise one another constantly.

So transparent.

 

You completely missed it. I'm no Guardiola. And it's obvious to even a child that our Saphan is him.

To confess, I'm Luis Enrique. Just trying to help my friend to get a decent job.

 

Taking Pep, it will give continuity of Barcelona's Entorn.

In a way I'm afraid about our cantera. I just can see Mourinho getting some 5 Portuguese players and Drogba, Lampard, Terry from Chelsea and turn our cantera in a deadend street like Madrid's.

I'm for Pep. Let's risk it. And as we say in Balkans, when you risk it, risk it big. We say in Balkans, if you wan't some fireworks for birthday party, be a man, don't use crackers, use nuclear bomb. Let's do it! We say in Balkans too (when talking about politics and assigning people to different public offices): "It doesn't matter what are the candidate's qualifications, what matters is that he's our man".

 

I'm for Pep. Let's risk it. And as we say in Balkans, when you risk it, risk it big. We say in Balkans, if you wan't some fireworks for birthday party, be a man, don't use crackers, use nuclear bomb. Let's do it! We say in Balkans too (when talking about politics and assigning people to different public offices): "It doesn't matter what are the candidate's qualifications, what matters is that he's our man".

:howler:

And he's not joking, people.

:shades:

 

Yes, Deka, I'm not joking. Let's play big, guys. When I play poker, I'm the guy who not only puts the last cent on the table in the big bets, no, I put underwear too. And when they see me standing there all erected, they know I ain't bluffing, and they all retreat their bets. Let's do it. Let's risk it big.

 

Not much of a poker player myself but i must admit such an action would cause me to fold.

 

So, what will happen with our cantera with Mourinho. Noone replied to my fears. You CM should, as I'm your zealous follower, and I demand some answers.

Get an inside man to do the job. He knows our values. He knows the value we put in our youth players. This is no mercenary club, and should never become one.

 

I think that it is a tradition that would not be broken. If you will recall, Xavi has said on more than one occasion that Mourinho was one of the biggest believers in him when he was rising into the first team and that he gives him a lot of credit in helping him to prepare and be able to perform at that level.

I think it's also a function of the economy of the club as I don't see us willing to spend 100M Euros every season to revamp the team and the players from la cantera are seen as a very valuable asset, not just as bodies to make the numbers that are needed.

I don't think Mourinho is blind to see that there is quality in the cantera, that there is a history of developing quality players. Maybe he would try to push for the development of more players other than the typical holding midfielder that is produced. Maybe a quality fullback, center back, striker could be produced with more regularity.

 

Hmmm... I'm not changing my signature for the moment.

On the other hand, it would be good to part ways with Frank like gentlemans, and give Pep a chance now, just to see, how he can handle the lazy bozos, how he can prepair the team psychologically and his tactical/strategic ideas. The season is already lost, and it would cost us nothing.

Someone is afraid, that this would possibly damage Pep's future career. It's bollocks. Pep is a great man, and when great man gets a chance, he grabs it, he doesn't ask himself "what if (I fail)..."


I'm off working now. Let's somebody else defend the idea of my younger brother. Here you go, I unveiled my family secret.

 

It's not that Pep couldn't handle it, quite possibly it could work. But the conditions are set up for him to fail. If I was a manager and I was handed this responsibility I would take it because it's a great pay day. But if I was Pep, and I'm thinking that i want to be a good manager with a long career, I would say no, because the moment is not right. In my opinion he needs some more experience, especially in the top flight in order to get it right.

I think it's a desperate move. Things go wrong, what's the first reaction, let's look to our past heroes to solve the problems. The past is nice, but to live always on it can lead you to make mistakes because you're thinking with the heart and not the head. Of course I would love to see Pep some day managing this club, I think it would be a beautiful thing, but I'd like to see him do it with his own team, with time to prepare it well and time to prepare himself for the challenge.

To throw him into the lion's den at the money end of the season is in my opinion unfair.

 

To throw him into the lion's den at the money end of the season is in my opinion unfair.

Ok, I'll paraphrase what I said earlier: heroes are made in lion's dens and not in mouse holes. Anyone can hang out with mice. It's an opportunity to grab, nothing unfair about it. Only thing unfair in life is, that many times one is not thrown in lion's den to show that he can handle it.


And now I'm really off.

 

I reread my post, and saw that somebody may argue "the season is alread lost" part of it. Yes, we may still win CL, or even la liga, there's always such possibility, but I don't believe we have any chance to do it with present version of Rijkaard. He's completely lost and everything slipped through his fist like small sand through fingers. So anyone else has a better chance to do something with this broken team than him. If we part our ways, we trully are not harming him, but helping him.

 

Here is a good coach.

1.19 is my favorite part. Rijkaard could learn a thing or two from this man.

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Funny how you bring up Malesani. I actually heared that he is a Barca fan. I know for a fact (based on intervjues with him) that he made his wife follow him on their honeymoon to Barcelona, not for seing la sagrada familia or something like that, but rather so that he can visit La Masia and see Barca train. :dielaugh:

Don't know how serious he was about that, but he seams almost like a fanatic doing that

 

LOL!

He really would smack players around if they don't work on the pitch.
How many times did he say cazzo? :howler:

 

Pepe-Lucho duo brings tears in my eyes, but I would go for Lippi or Mourinho in that order.

In the other thread, I read Vedran's idea for Bilić and I must say that it would be excellent.

 

So he planned the trip by himself and he asked his wife if she wants to come too? Or he hit his fist on the table and ordered the damn woman? Looks like a great guy.

 

Yeah well, he seams like the guy most of you are longing for.

He didn't say wheather or not he order his wife to go there on their honeymoon, but based on that interwiew and other clips where that man is going completly crazy I would say that he "ordered the damn woman" :tongue:

 

I found the assistant coach :tongue:

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:dielaugh:

Are you Greek by any chance, or I'm guessing you know Greek. AMAN was my favorite show, I still have many episodes on CDs and watch them from time to time.

And that Malesani interview was fvcking class, especially if you can understand the Greek subtitles. (every other word is pousti & gamoto :howler: ) :star:

As far as Pep goes, I think it's too soon. I'd love to see him in charge one day, with Lucho as his assistant, but not yet.

 

Great find, Rauff.

I spoke with Pep on phone (I'm Lucho, remember), he personally promised me that a) if we can't offload Ronaldinho and b) he gets support on XTRATIME to take over Barca (and Laporta pays serious attention on public opinion up here), he'll hire Malesani as personal (fitness) coach for Ronaldinho.


Anyway on Italian version of Malesani's wikipedia page there is an interesting trivia, probably made up though -- it looks like urban legend, but it says that the guy was caught in Verona writing following graffitti on the wall: "Grande Malesani!!!!!"

 

Ok, ok, he does/did use drugs. But there is an enormous difference, he used a performance-enhancing drug while today in Barca we have relaxational drug abuse (alcohol, grass). By chosing Pep we'll send clear message to the players: Abuse drugs to enhance performance and not to relax, you lazy bumps!

 

i think barca at this stage to pepe is a bit much...best thing is second coach to rijkaard and kick neeskens out and replace pepe by lucho

one thing i dont understand is how suddenly everything clicked when they played against celtic and string follwed against tougher opposition too ,i really dont know the mistery