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Is football going down the drain with the anti-football example set by AC Milan?

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#1 ·
Cannavaro:

"Inter played the football, while Milan scored the goals."

Chelsea: Classic anti-football team

What has this world of football come to? Some people and teams clearly value winning at all costs more than the harm it will do to the world of soccer and the nature of the game. When people look back at this era, people will see the negativity that sides like Milan and Inter in 2002 era and Chelsea show.

Why must we show generations down the road that we stand for everything that football is not about?
 
#2 ·
Some call it a possession game, others say its a tactical genius, while yet others claim that its a Christmas tree-

Yet at the end its all the same thing- Anti-football at its best.
 
#3 ·
Some call it a great Inter attacking side. Some call it a Vieri Goal-Fest, everything that football is about. But at the end its all the same thing- Cuper Anti-Football Saved by World Class Strikers.
 
#5 ·
Some people and teams clearly value winning at all costs more than the harm it will do to the world of soccer and the nature of the game.
You included it would seem.

If you dislike the idea of winning at all costs and subscribe to the ideals of style over substance why the hostility towards Mancini?
 
#6 ·
First of all, Thanks for engaging in the discussion without just flat out calling us idiots or me an idiot for that matter. I want to say this. I like Mancio, I was just pissed off after the defeat yesterday. But after hearing the ITALIAN NATIONAL TEAM CAPTAIN say that we played the football, I feel proud. I know we are the real players of the football. The great teams of the past were the ones who introduced new styles relative to their age. In our age we want exciting football. And we better honor teams that deliver that to us, not teams that act selfish and ruin the game (including Cuper's Inter) by wanting trophies and ruining the art of soccer. Football is an art, not to be reckoned with the wrong way. If you ruin it, you face the consequences. Any damn team can stay back and defend. Did you see how Ancelotti subs out all his strikers 20 minutes before time every game? QUOTE RUFFIAN, its my observation

And did you see once Milan got their lead, their fukin Christmas tree formation turned into a dump of shit right in front of their goal with all 10 players.
 
#7 ·
Milan has scored allmost as many goals as Inter this season and only conceeded half of the goals Inter has let in. If it is anti-football to score a lot and conceed very little, so be it. :rolleyes:
 
#9 ·
Wow barracuda didn't know you fell for my bait.

You hit on the point exactly!

Its' not the goals scored!

Its not!

Even Inter in 2002 scored the most goals and 2001 was 2nd behind Juve or something for goals scored. But they are anti-football.

Its not about the goals!

Ask someone yesterday- was the Chelsea game anti-football?

YES IT WAS

Yet 4 goals! HOw?

Its not about the goals, its about the style of play, the attacking.

Great counterattacks always lead to great goals, but they are still antifooty in nature.
 
#10 ·
Haroon said:
Helenio Herrera - Catenaccio

Inter set the example and the standard. :D Milan or Chelsea don't play anti-football. Otherwise both teams would've sat back for the 0-0 and gone for the away goal in the return legs. ;)
So what Haroon? In that era teams were more attacking in nature. I said the nature of the play demanded is set by the era and the tone of the sport in general. back then, it was a revolutionary idea. Nowadays, we want exciting football- something Inter provides and Milan doesn't. And Cannavaro pointed it out, though we should add that in private he knows his Juvenuts do the same thing.
 
#13 ·
Chelsea are anti-football at its best. Chelsea is a pure countering team that only wins against weak defenses. When Chelsea goes up against Milan whenever that may be, watch CHelsea get their asses handed to them b/c Milan can sure as hell defend. there is no weakness for Chelsea to exploit in that case, and there goes their game. Mourinho is a classic case of anti-football in a really, pro-football league.

I agree buzyb, Barcelona was the most exciting team for sure.
 
#14 ·
Pulsar36 said:
Nowadays, we want exciting football- something Inter provides and Milan doesn't.
For those who prefer high-scoring games, I suggest Basketball ;)

Apart from consistanly failing to play decent football, how is Inters game entertaining?
 
#15 ·
Puls,

Forget about the world. The situation that Inter is in requires a big trophy otherwise this pressure will continue to mount and build up. Entertaining football should be the least of the worries. Winning a big trophy (Scudetto or UCL) and not the TIM Cup every year should be of importance.

Inter fans are to be blamed for this as well. Diavolo heard an Inter fan saying that he would sell his ticket now and earn some money. :D That's slick coming from a season ticket holder.

There are multiple problems if you ask me.

-> No World Class player in the squad

-> Loads of disposable junk still in the squad

-> Bad management

-> Overhyped by Inter journalists and experts in Italia

-> Total lack of planning for a season

-> A coach who knows jack all about organisation and a lot about attacking

-> Lack of self-belief and concentration

-> Imbalanced squad
 
#17 ·
Decent football in your eyes is the Christmas tree which utilizes a great defense and numerous countless worthless passes and finally a run by Cafu for a goal. Or counters as seen yesterday.

Decent football in our eyes is all out attacking, first touch football with numerous chances, we just need to convert them.

And as I said once more, exciting football is not about the goals- its about the technique, which is why Inter won the Lo Scudetto for attacking play this year.
 
#19 ·
buzyb said:
adriano IS world class!!
That's the over-hyping I am talking about. He did poop in the Milan derby when Nesta had him in his pocket. He has the elements to become World Class but he is surely not World Class at this point in time.

Let him perform at all levels and all situations first before calling him that.
 
#20 ·
Haroon said:
Puls,

Forget about the world. The situation that Inter is in requires a big trophy otherwise this pressure will continue to mount and build up. Entertaining football should be the least of the worries. Winning a big trophy (Scudetto or UCL) and not the TIM Cup every year should be of importance.
Wrong, as much as I would jump at the chance and others would as well, I don't care. I want to do things right. Without any notion of referee cheating, or any type of unfair influences in the league management, though I'm not indicting any team in particular. I want to win the right way, that is why Cuper pissed me off at times, and at other times made me happy. We are so desperate yet we must not fall to this anti-ftoobal. Let Mancio stay and do his magic.

Haroon said:
Inter fans are to be blamed for this as well. Diavolo heard an Inter fan saying that he would sell his ticket now and earn some money. :D That's slick coming from a season ticket holder.
I don't know who Diavolo is, though I saw a banner yesterday with Diavolo on its front. Whatever, most Inter fans are loyal and we don't need talk of a few malcontents, which are just rumors.

haroon said:
There are multiple problems if you ask me.

-> No World Class player in the squad

-> Loads of disposable junk still in the squad

-> Bad management

-> Overhyped by Inter journalists and experts in Italia

-> Total lack of planning for a season

-> A coach who knows jack all about organisation and a lot about attacking

-> Lack of self-belief and concentration

-> Imbalanced squad

Great post, the last part, but I suggest you take it to the What's the Cure? thread. Here we are talking about everything that is wrong in the world, outside of Barcelona and Inter, and possibly Liverpool and Lyon.
 
#21 ·
Haroon said:
That's the over-hyping I am talking about. He did poop in the Milan derby when Nesta had him in his pocket. He has the elements to become World Class but he is surely not World Class at this point in time.

Let him perform at all levels and all situations first before calling him that.
I agree with you, but this is going off-topic once more. Adriano is not world-class, he has never proved anything against good defenders like Vieri has. In my mind, in five years, we willl all be talking of Adriano like a Javy Saviola. A dud. He has too much arrogance and not enough balls to go up against the best.
 
#22 ·
Pulsar36 said:
Decent football in your eyes is the Christmas tree which utilizes a great defense and numerous countless worthless passes and finally a run by Cafu for a goal. Or counters as seen yesterday.

Decent football in our eyes is all out attacking, first touch football with numerous chances, we just need to convert them.

And as I said once more, exciting football is not about the goals- its about the technique, which is why Inter won the Lo Scudetto for attacking play this year.
You won Lo Scudetto this season for getting into the Guinness Book. :D

Fans will always settle for a trophy at the end of the day than eye-refreshing gameplay. Interisti won't care one bit if Inter wins big.
 
#23 ·
Haroon said:
You won Lo Scudetto this season for getting into the Guinness Book. :D

Fans will always settle for a trophy at the end of the day than eye-refreshing gameplay. Interisti won't care one bit if Inter wins big.
The fact that we didn't lose to any team at all but a really good world-class ANTI FOOTBALL TEAM is the fact that we take high to the bank.

Some teams are good at anti-football, others are not. Some have better players, though its not a better way of doing things. Better players=better antifootball.

Anti-football is a way for the weak teams of this world to gain some respect and wins. The only way. And it should be cut down and hacked away.

Not to say that Milan are weak, they and Chelsea are the best at antifooty b/c the have the best players/tactics. Thought its not a better antifootblal, b/c all antifootball is bad and no antifootball is better play than other antifootball as all antifootball is crap in the whole realm of things.

And let our record for draws serve as a lesson to the ANTI FOOTBALL TEAMS OF THE WORLD.

That you can not lose by playing attacking football as well. If we all stoppeed antifooty, then we could all play attack football and not lose. We just need better finishers up front, otherwise people would be talking of Inter as the new revolutionaries in the world.
 
#25 ·
Mind if I ask you what did Adriano do in hte first derby against Milan? Nothing. In his tenminutes against Milan last time , nothing. Nesta can handle Adriaon and let the world know the truth

Adriano only scores against weak teams, he can't play agaisnst the best.