The Centenario tournament hasn't been added to the FIFA calendar yet so it can very easily be a "B" team tournament, especially with South American sides taking the Olympics seriously

 

The USA has a colony for almost every single country in the world, specially for any south american country, so it will be a very good atmosphere in the stadiums.


Technically, should be very even, but the EURO format is more entertaining.


However, the only place were you can get a Brazil x Argentina game or a Brazil x Uruguay game is in Copa America.:thumbsup::drunk:roud:

 

Not sure which is better, but it's going to be one heck of a summer for the average football fan. Euro 2016 in France, Copa America Centenario in the U.S, and then the Summer Olympics in Brazil to top it all off.

 

Its just national football.

 

Will be a very young and exciting Euro.
Belgium England France Spain Italy Portugal
all interesting while Germany
will look to do a France 98 2000 double
to further cement all time superiority.


Possibly the best Copa from modern times.
Argentina to win

 

to further cement all time superiority.

not this again.

any european country that wins a WC, automatically becomes "the greatest champion ever" :wallbang:



and argentina has not won a trophy in 21 years.

They have not won a world cup in 32 years. Messi's generation has never seen argentina win a cup.

they have only won 4 trophies since 1959.

they will not win it in 2016

the mexicans wont allow it this team

and 1000 gols, 1000 gols
SO PELE, SO PELE
MARADONA CHEIRADOR

 

were did you get the ¨greatest team all time¨
?

 

I meant Germany
as nation not this Germany
I doubt they'll win the euro or perform in 2018.

 

brazil won it 5 times

world cups are considered in cups won, just like any other trophy.


were did you get that from?

 

For me Brasil is still #1

For others Germany
has equaled or surpassed
Brazil somehow

 

what others? your the only one saying

Germany will only surpass us if they win 2018 & 2022... then they will have 6 and we will have 5.:thumbsup:

Its simple arithmetic.

 

Why can't we just enjoy them both?

 

The Euro 2016 will be terrible after they changed the format and expanded it to 24 teams. Greedy assholes.

 

I agree. 16 teams were more than enough and makes more sense.

It's stupid to have a 3rd best team in a group advance to knockout stages.

 

Germany overtook Brasil, smashed them at home in historic fashion and lifted the cup in their backyard. Their world cup history is more consistent too...
Number 2 of 200+ nations is hardly a disappointment though.

 

brazil has 5 trophies
germany and italy have 4 trophies


germany passed italy as #2, as they have a better récord. that is all


if they want to pass brazil, they need to win 2 cups

 

I agree , if the world ended today this would be true.
Since history is ongoing as far as the official count Germany
simply tied Italy. By your messaurments Ze (and mine) there
is no bonus for consistency or final appearances.
So Germany choke a lot in the finals ? So what?

Italy was beat by the best team ever in 1970
and tied a very good Brasilian squad in 1994
( thank you Baresi ) if one wants to be picky.

Euro cups are simply about European rivalry
not all time greatness as it's immeasurable.
If you count Euros then Spain is ahead of Argentina??

Germany simply get beat.

 

its always been like that

if you want to count euros, we can count copa america

then argentina have 14 or 15, uruguay have a huge amount also.

anyway, me as a fan, i prefer to win confederation cup to copa america. and i prefer to beat argentina in a final than to win the copa america also

we won it 4 times

continental cups are to be graded as continental cups


denmark, and greece have won that.. so its not like its really difficult to win it .


world cups is what is the true measurement and the real glamour.

the rest you can debate after the world cup debate.


the true reality is that there are 3 súper powers in football, brazil, germany and italy.

argentina are starting to be the leader of the pack on the second group, with uruguay, france, spain and england. we can possibly add holland to that group, despite never winning a world cup, but 3 times runners up deserves a mention.

 

Tim Vickery talked about this tournament on the WF podcast saying he believes South American teams will send "B" and "C" teams to this tournament and that CONMEBOL views this simply as a cash-grab (nothing new)

But Americans will still pay ridiculous prices to watch these games

 

the true reality is that there are 3 súper powers in football, brazil, germany and italy






Yes.

 

Don't know if Brazil could still be considered a super power. Traditionally yes, but currently...

 

what games did you go?

 

Arg-Bosnia, Spain-Chile, France-Ecuador, Belgium-Russia, Uruguay-Colombia and Brasil-Germany...

 

Cool, I went to a bunch of game too.:thumbsup:

dont know how i din't get killed in that arg x belgium game.... the argies were nice to me i was not nice to them :howler::musik::cecco:

best games though were:

Bra x Col
Eng x Costa Rica (crap game, amazing atmosphere)
bel x arg
col- ivory coast
fra x nig
bra x hol was dissapointing
swiss x ecuador was a snore fest


worst game was portugal x ghana... had to watch EDER :yuck: play

 

Only real crap game was Belgium-Russia. Uruguay-Colombia was the best I saw.
Great atmosphere in the stadia, especially when the South American teams were playing. The Argies were the best fans IMO.
Great atmosphere in the Rio fanfest and Copacabana as well.
Still going through Post World Cup Withdrawal syndrome. Trying to get heroin from a co-worker to get a high :howler::eekani:

 

England against Costa Rica were the best. Singing from 10 am to 2 AM , non stop:thumbsup:

amazing

5T5Vn01ct3Q

Argies second best

 

There was a song I heard in the Fan Fest. Went something like: ta da da da, ta da da da, felicidade

Does that ring a bell?

 

is it this samba from salgueiro in 93? its a classic in brazil and in stadiums


NYZuCleY8mQ

 

Yes!!!! Thanks man! :thumbsup::thumbsup::musik:

 

vandeper,

your welcome.

Now, just tell me one thing

Diecieme que se siente to lose the world cup final in your papa's place? How was it:eekani::musik::dazed::crazy::howler::howler::excited:roud:

 

Haha. not nearly as bad as getting spanked 7-1 in your own house! :spank::howler:

When are you brazucas going to march to CBF HQ and drag those bums out?

 

:howler: unfortunately its easier said than done!!!

 

After the revelations of the amount of bribes involved in setting up the tournament the 2016 Centenario Copa America is in serious doubt

 

:howler:

oh noes what will we do without the great Copa America in EUROs and Olympics summer...

 

Obviously EURO will be far superior as there are many more good teams...CA is between Argentina and Brazil (well, that is if they take it seriously, which they often do not). Pointless tournament which lacks historical credibility.

 

Uruguay is better than both in the Copa America. I also prefer Colombia and Chile to most European teams currently.

But the Conmebol WCQs are better than the Copa America :excited:

 

Since 1996, I think only 1 or 2 Quarter Finals were interesting enough at the Euro that you could say would have decided the winner of the tournament... Spain-France in 2000 and Portugal-England in 2004.
Now, with 24 teams, we will have a borefest till the SF, maybe something interesting earlier if the draw helps it ( like Germany-France and Slovenia-Slovakia Iceland-Northern Ireland and Spain-Portugal in QF lol ).
But it's still better than the Copa America, at least the WC survives as an OK tournament though I sense that except for the German team with Messi+1-2 other Argentine players and Robben from Netherlands really didn't care as much as people think maybe only with the hearts and tears but not willing to break a leg for it knowing their precious cash is waiting back in Europe at the club. With a bit of an effort we could've seen Costa Rica in the SF for f sakes!

 

If Costa Rica beat Uruguay, Italy and drew England at the World Cup, they deserve to advance. It was a very good team with Navas, Gamboa, Borges, Ruiz and Campbell.

 

Yes, Germany has 8 finals, more than Brazil.