what is the criteria you use for picking. I'm amazed Pat jennings isn't in your goalkeeping list. Have you seen the two games he played against Brazil?

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Just saw that you have him included in the 1970s list but this guy played for a long time and IMO really reached his peak in the early 80's

 

Sorry I forgot him and having added him at 6th.

 

Striker

1. Paolo Rossi (Juventus, Italy)
2. Ian Rush (Liverpool, Wales)
3. Fernando Morena (Penarol, Uruguay)
4. Roberto Dinamite (Vasco Da Gama, Brazil)



What a pathetic list for strikers at that time. I am not disputing the rankings or saying they were not good players but that was it for the first part of the 80s? None of those guys are "legendary" types. Every other category in every single list has famous legend types and then this list has.......

 

Well, Paolo Rossi is definately the legendary type. More so than most. Wether he warrants such a status is another matter.

But I guess it wasn't the era of legendary strikers. Dearman, who else would make the grade if you had to name, say 7 strikers, like in the other CF list?

I think by the 80s Kempes was already past it, so I wouldn't put him in this list. In 83 he was dropped from the Argie squad. Plus I think he's more of a forward than a striker?

Morena was well past it in the 80s, too, btw. Maybe one of the Germans?

 

Yeah the number of world-class strikers at that tme was very few. I tried to name at least 3 players in each category and Dinamite-Morena is a contemporary 3rd place. Anyway, I am ok to reduce number from 4 to 2 base on level of players. Note that B.Laudrup is also the only one to be named in winger list of the first half 1990s.

 

You don't have to change anything based on my question.

I was just wondering out loud who were the other strikers of that time period. I know football history pretty well and could not think of anybody. MAybe Kempes? Was he a striker or more a forward? I didn;'t see him on your list.

 

No I am actually on the way to revise and name out of standard players off these lists sinnce I want all lists have a similar standard. You just help me to find it earlier. Btw, Kempes reached the prime in the second half 1980s.

 

Are we talking about Mario Kempes, the star of the the 1978 World Cup and big time deal at teh 1982 Cup?

 

Yes, Kempes was still in a great performance in the early 1980s but he was become down after then and it is not enough for all seasons combined in the first half 1980s.

 

I think he could make the early 80's list as a striker. He's good enough for that in what was such a weak period for strikers.

 

The best southamerican strikers in 1st half 80s were:
1. Ramon Diaz
2. Antonio Careca
3. Fernando Morena

Others: R.Dinamite, Onnis, Cabinho, la Rosa, Letelier, R.Gareca

http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=267854

 

Stojkovic above Laudrup as an offensive mid for the late 80s.

Laudrup surpassed him when Stojkovic ruined his knees at Marseille and went off to play in the irrelevant J-league, but that was the early 90s.Late 80s version was a phenom, even if it only lasted 3-4 years.

Zavarov arguably should be too, he was more influential for Dynamo Kiev than Laudrup was at club level and at least as good at international level.Danes and soviets split games against each other, but his terrific Euro 88 peformance gives the Ukrainian a decided edge.

Laudrup also surpassed him by the early 90s as Zavarov disgraced himself with out of shape performances at Juventus and squandered his talent, but late 80s Zavarov was the more likely to dominate a midfield.


As an aside im curious to know why is Dasaev so high considering he played all his days in the Soviet league and from the lack of other Soviet players you obviously don't rate it highly...and it's not like they had massive success internationally due to his efforts, being the biggest Euro underachievers until 88.Nor did Spartak have great success in Europe during his era because of him.

Fedor Cherenkov, Yuri Gavrilov, Vagiz Khidiyatullin, and maybe Rodionov, Boris Kuznetsov and Shavlo as well were more important for Spartak.

Not that i'm saying any of these players or others should necessarily be there, but Dasaev so high in the absence of nearly every single other player in the league is very odd.

 

Abedi, Who should be rated higher than Dasaev ? For keeper position, standard of league is not much influence likes other position. They still have many occasions to face challenge situation to read the game and stop shooting. The standard of the league is much depened on average level fo player in the whole league even their top players are not among the best in the world. Soviet League was competitive in this point.

For Guerin and Spanish la liga rating of M.Laudrup, I think it is fair to rate Stojkovic higher.

 

Forward: Bebeto!

 

Bebeto start to be great in the late 1980s. Between 1985 - 1988, he was still mot shine.

 

Dearman

Bebeto started shining in 1983, when he arrived in Flamengo and was outh american and world champion U-20 with Brazil.
Zico left to Italy and Bebeto as a yougster played the football to be called the new Zico, which he was.

In 86 he was Carioca champion (when it was a very tough tournament, full of stars)
and in 1987 he was Brazilian champion with Flamengo scoring the 2 goal that gave the title.

I really don't know were you got this analysis from. I grew up watching Bebeto play every week, and you could not be more far from the truth.

In 1989 he went to Vasco in the most expensive tranfer between Brazilian club at the time

 

Bebeto didn't play any game for Brazil between 1986 - 1988 so his NT rating led overall rating not enough to be in this list.

 

I was on his debut against Peru back in 1985

1988 him and Romario were the main players of Brazil in the olympics (Olympic football is taken serious in Brazil)

 

I think Hugo Sanchez could be added to the early 80s to make up the numbers. Was already cranking up the goals at that point.

Same with Elkjaer. Wouldn't he actually be more of a 1st half than 2nd half player, since by 88 or so he was past it?

 

Sanchez. Good call.

 

Preben Elkjaer had the career highlight with Hellas Verona. His career at Lokeren was way smooth profile.

 

Some contenders for 1st half 80s list:
Cueto (Per)
Romerito (Par)
Barbadillo (Per) - see Guerin rankings
W.Ortiz (Col)
Eder (Bra)
Valdano (Arg)
Ramon Diaz (Arg)
Careca (Bra)