Good points about RNK Split keeping their players plus adding extra ones. That's how it should be for every team knowing that your playing in Europe. I think RNK Split could make it to the playoff round, considering they were playing 2nd division last year, that would be historical for them. Other shitty croatian teams look at RNK Split as a guide.

 

Dinamo have a better chance to finally get back to the CL, but it will still take some luck with the draw, especially in the Fourth round, Varazdin will go one round max, and RNK as well depending on how lucky they get with the draw. As far as my Hajduk, it'll take a miracle for us to get out of the 3rd round, and if we do, I'll be satisfied with that considering the team we have right now...

 

Dinamo Zagreb can draw one of the following:

- Dacia Chisinau (Moldova)
- Pyunik Yerevan (Armenia)
- Videoton (Hungary)
- Neftchi Baku (Azerbaijan)
- Skendija (Macedonia)
- One of Valletta (MLT)/Tre Fiore (SNM)

Skendija and the last one would be the best draw. The top four Dinamo would still be favorites but tricky opponents. Not sure what to think about the Hungarians.

Varazdin's potential Europa League opening opponents:

- Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia)
- Vllaznia (Albania)
- FK Zeta (Montenegro)
- Banants Yerevan (Armenia)
- Lusitans (Andorra)

Varazdin is the one team I don't expect too much from, the jackpot would be the Andorrans. Only tricky ones would be Olimpija and maybe Zeta.

Split will also know their opponents today but their groupings have not been made yet

 

Champions League 2nd Round Qualifying

DINAMO ZAGREB vs. Neftchi Baku (Azerbaijan)

another distant visit, club with a ton of Brazilians but not much success in Europe

 

Dinamo will be facing off against Neftchi Baku.

Edit: Once again, HS is ahead of everyone

 

Easy fixtures I assume for Dinamo.

We got it bad again. Borac got Maccabi Haifa :howler:.

 

it should be, only way I could see problems is if Dinamo don't finish them off already in Maksimir. Neftchi was one of the draws I think Dinamo would have wanted to avoid though, far away, team with some foreigners and they already had trouble with teams from Azerbaijan a few years ago (when Koch was in goal, and that was a strong Dinamo team)

 

Vllaznia will be the team to avoid really for Varazdin..best would be Andorrans and maybe even the Montenegrans

 

Europa League 1st Round Qualifying

NK VARAZDIN vs. FC Lusitans (Andorra)

Varazdin got the jackpot, will the screw it up?

edit: looking at wikipedia, they seem to be some club owned by a Portuguese guy and their club is all Portuguese players. Their freakin logo is the Portuguese FA one too They have only played in Europe once, getting crushed by Rabotnicki 11:0 on aggregate last season, so Varazdin really shouldn't be too concerned

RNK Split and Varazdin will know their opponents in about 30 minutes. Both sides are seeded, Varazdin will of course have to pass Lusitans before thinking of the second round

 

We should beat them fairly easily. It won't be trashing.. but our squad is simply far better.

Lack of decent coaching might get us in trouble tho.

 

Europa League 2nd Round Qualifying

Iskra-Stal (Moldova) vs. NK VARAZDIN/FC Lusitans
NK Domzale (Slovenia) vs. RNK SPLIT

Split get a regional team, should be interesting matchup. Domzale don't seem to be the same team from 2-3 years ago

Varazdin get some Moldovan club without much history in Europe (never won a round)

 

Europa League 2nd Round Qualifying

Iskra-Stal (Moldova) vs. NK VARAZDIN/FC Lusitans
NK Domzale (Slovenia) vs. RNK SPLIT

Split get a regional team, should be interesting matchup. Domzale don't seem to be the same team from 2-3 years ago

Well, Domžale are not Maribor or Olimpija in terms of glory, but they pretty well organized team, which gave Maribor a run for their money in the league this season, while they actually took the Cup home, despite playing last 15 minutes or so with 10 men in the final against Maribor. So, knowing that Split is not Dinamo or Hajduk either, this should be a pretty close matchup.

 

so at the end of the day none of our clubs can complain too much about the draws. I'd say Varazdin of all teams had the better, Dinamo and Split both get tricky opponents.

Varazdin play Andorrans in the first round and if they get through them they play a team from Moldova with no tradition in Europe. Of course, that doesn't mean anything but Varazdin should still be pleased. Only concern is they are already worried about paying for travel, but that should be extra motivation, win these two rounds and get a big club in the third.

Split could have done better, while Croatian sides do well against SNL opposition its always tricky playing neighbors. This is essentially a HNL-type matchup in Europe. If Split can replicate their HNL form then they should pass through

Dinamo can have some worries but in reality they are the favorites. They don't have a good history with clubs from that region. Maybe its better they play at Maksimir first so they don't panic is a first leg away match in a potential hostile atmosphere.

 

It might be tricky.. but lets get real. If dinamo with this squad can't easily pass by Neftchi.. what are we talking about here?

 

Very true, Dinamo can't complain one bit. If they are serious about CL they should win. Yea every match is difficult but no need to be fearful.

 

should be a very intresting game ill say 2 evenly matched teams but Neftchi is hungry for European glory they just cant lose..
This Neftchi team is way stronger the Khazar Lenkoran that you won in extra and a man up

 

Decent draws for all 3 of our sides, Split probably got the worst draw with Domzale, but even they are probably favourites for that one on paper.

It would be great for coefficients if we had Hajduk, Split and Varteks all in the 3rd qualifying round, anything from there depends on the luck of the draw and would be a bonus for me. :hopeful:

Also as HS said, our coefficients for the last 5 seasons are:

2006/07: 1.000
2007/08: 3.666
2008/09: 4.333
2009/10: 3.000
2010/11: 4.125
Total: 16.124

The 1.00 will now drop out and be replaced by whatever we get this year, so its a real chance to move up from our current position of 22nd in europe.

And its still a long way off I know, but top 15 would mean the HNL gets 2 CL places. Its currently occupied by Scotland, who have a total of 21.141. And 06/07 was Scotland's second best season in the last 5 years (they got almost 7 points), so they have a lot to make up this year to avoid droping down.

Im always optimistic in June though. Of course, by August our sides could all be out.

 

Mamic has said he will resign if Dinamo don't pass Neftchi...its the typical "panic" mode from the fans

No way Croatia will be in top 15, at best top 20 but even thats a stretch. The 1.000 should be surpassed within the first weeks of the European season, two wins from Varazdin against the Andorrans and they are halfway there p

Before we get too crazy, we've seen HNL sides lose to Cliftonville, Differdange, draw clubs like Valletta...but I still feel somewhat good about these draws

 

Dinamo shouldn't be that worried if they have genuine intentions of getting to the groups.

Varazdin should win both legs against the Andorrans - no idea about 2nd round and I think Split's draw is quite hard especially since they won't be playing at home in either game.

 

I just F@#$%^ love how Jurcic is like OH No! we got this random team no one has heard of and we might lose because there so far away!!(Twinkle in eyes) Like, shut up and say were gonna win 4-0 and have something positive to say, cant stand these pussy coaches... People enough with making drama for no reason we can't lose to a team like that......

 

Jurčić is an idiot.. our weakest link.. by far.

With Vaha incharge i'd say +5 in two legs.. now it will be a lot harder.

 

Varteks should advance easily, while Split will have a tougher task ahead of them. I think Split will advance as well, but by the skin of their teeth...As far as dinamo is concerned, and dinamo fans don't get riled up, but I could definitely see an upset in this one especially if they take their opponent lightly like some of our members seem to be doing here in this thread. Neftchi are far from pushovers, and dinamo better take a comfortable lead with them to Baku (2-0 and above) if they want to move on...

 

We will all go thru, and then Dinamo will kick the crap out of Barca once in the CL, but only after Hajduk trashes Barca in Poljud in a couple of weeks roud:

 

Anyone can lose to anyone, but you're right Jurcic's chicken shit attitude is just as bad as Ciro's we'll beat anyone 10-0. Stupidity from coaches sitting at the highest levels is so frustrating. Just go out there and ****en coach your team properly and get ready for a good game.

 

Apparently Varazdin can't even afford to fly out to Spain/Andorra, they are considering travelling by bus there :wallbang:

Already starting...

 

oh dear...sirotinjo i bogu si teška

 

They are by far the poorest club in first 2 divisions.. i doubt their budget is even 1.5 mil euros..

Why the hell did they even apply for euro license?