France are more likely out than Italy.

 

France are more likely out than Italy.

Not really I'm afraid, they face Lithuania and Ukraine at home and Far Oer on the road if I well recall, ergo 9 points :frustrat:

 

*jinx thread alert*

 

*jinx thread alert*

Not really I'm afraid dear nEEbz
If you take a glimpse at the table of our group, logics spare us little hope :notlist: Furthermore, the second last time we won the WC back in 1982, even then we failed qualification.
Oh well!

 

You are second and France is third. Tables don't lie.

History can't do shit on the pitch

 

You are second and France is third. Tables don't lie.

History can't do shit on the pitch

True, however, indeed unfortunately, whilst us Italians will be playing in Glasgow, France will be facing Far Oer. :frustrat:

 

one team cannot upset two top guns in a row. So Scotland have minimal chance to turn the tables on Italians again.

It's seems Italy name is already written on Euro 2008 trophy. It's all too inevitable. Everything points toward it. It's a lost battle for the other. It's all over. :depress:

p

 

one team cannot upset two top guns in a row. So Scotland have minimal chance to turn the tables on Italians again.

It's seems Italy name is already written on Euro 2008 trophy. It's all too inevitable. Everything points toward it. It's a lost battle for the other. It's all over. :depress:

p

Though we're still kind of daydreaming as current World Champions roud: down to scratch Scotland just needs a draw against us, no need for an upset:

13 ottobre 2007
Scozia-Ucraina 1
Italia-Georgia 1
Far Oer-Francia 2
17 ottobre 2007
Georgia-Scozia 2
Ucraina-Far Oer (pointless game)
Francia-Lituania 1
17 novembre 2007
Lituania-Ucraina (pointless game)
Scozia-Italia x
21 novembre 2007
Italia-Far Oer 1
Georgia-Lituania (pointless game)
Ucraina-Francia 2 (pointless game for Ukraine)

Oh well!

 

Not really I'm afraid, they face Lithuania and Ukraine at home and Far Oer on the road if I well recall, ergo 9 points :frustrat:

Don't they play in Ukraine?

 

well if ukraine vs france is pointless for ukraine then so is italy vs georgia italy vs faroe
france vs lithuania

 

Don't they play in Ukraine?

I just added the full schedule a post above yours. Indeed France will play a unmotivated Ukraine on the road.

 

well if ukraine vs france is pointless for ukraine then so is italy vs georgia italy vs faroe
france vs lithuania

Very true unfortunately. The only game with high motivation for both teams is Scotland vs Italy. Scotland will only need to draw that game.

 

donadoni has to play the strongest XI in scotland, he has been coach over year and the game in scotland is in novembre, so by then he should clearly know what is the best lineup.

But he doesnt...

 

donadoni has to play the strongest XI in scotland, he has been coach over year and the game in scotland is in novembre, so by then he should clearly know what is the best lineup.

But he doesnt...

In all fairness, some were suggesting exactly the same things about Lippi.

Anyway, France has virtually qualification in it's pocket, Italy need to make history in Scotland :stress:

 

I just added the full schedule a post above yours. Indeed France will play a unmotivated Ukraine on the road.

but the smaller teams would still like to cause some upsets.

(or play for honour) :hopeful:

so if france and italy are neck and neck before last round, ukraine (or faroe, least likely though :howler would want to be part of this upset. a ka ukraine push the wc finalist out of europe, or italy so so faroe away

 

If you cannot win Scotland it's better not to qualify for the next Euro...

 

but the smaller teams would still like to cause some upsets.

(or play for honour) :hopeful:

so if france and italy are neck and neck before last round, ukraine (or faroe, least likely though :howler would want to be part of this upset. a ka ukraine push the wc finalist out of europe, or italy so so faroe away

Unfortunately logics suggest otherwise I'm afraid :groan:

 

If you cannot win Scotland it's better not to qualify for the next Euro...

Not really, Denmark won a Euro Cup after failing qualification :neutral:

 

In all fairness, some were suggesting exactly the same things about Lippi.

Anyway, France has virtually qualification in it's pocket, Italy need to make history in Scotland :stress:

but the team put together (on the night) still played football, donadonis azzurri is more of a teaser to the supporters nerves.

 

but the team put together (on the night) still played football, donadonis azzurri is more of a teaser to the supporters nerves.

Do you remember Slovenia vs Italy or Iceland vs Italy?
Anyway, the past is the past, may logics be proved wrong :hopeful:

 

Not really, Denmark won a Euro Cup after failing qualification :neutral:

You know what i mean.If the world champions cannot win a team that hasn't been in a major tournament for ages it's better to be 3rd.I don't say all this to underestimate Scotland though.

 

You know what i mean.If the world champions cannot win a team that hasn't been in a major tournament for ages it's better to be 3rd.I don't say all this to underestimate Scotland though.

Might well be true, however, since France will certainly qualify, since they lost both ties to Scotland, would you rule them out as possible winners next summer?

 

Might well be true, however, since France will certainly qualify, since they lost both ties to Scotland, would you rule them out as possible winners next summer?

That's different.You can't compare the qualifying rounds with Euro finals next year.My team Greece won the last Euro but who could imagined that?Everything can happen next summer.

Btw can you post the groups table and remaining games for Italy,France and Scotland?

 

That's different.You can't compare the qualifying rounds with Euro finals next year.My team Greece won the last Euro but who could imagined that?Everything can happen next summer.

Btw can you post the groups table and remaining games for Italy,France and Scotland?

Qualificazioni Europei 2008 - Gruppo B

LA CLASSIFICA PT G V N P GF GS DR
Scozia 21 9 7 0 2 17 7 10
Italia 20 9 6 2 1 15 7 8
Francia 19 9 6 1 2 15 3 12
Ucraina 13 8 4 1 3 10 9 1
Lituania 10 9 3 1 5 6 11 -5
Georgia 7 9 2 1 6 14 15 -1
Far Oer 0 9 0 0 9 3 29 -26

DATA PARTITA RISULTATO
16 agosto 2006 Far Oer-Georgia 0-6
2 settembre 2006 Georgia-Francia
Italia-Lituania
Scozia-Far Oer 0-3
1-1
6-0
6 settembre 2006 Ucraina-Georgia
Lituania-Scozia
Francia-Italia 3-2
1-2
3-1
7 ottobre 2006 Italia-Ucraina
Far Oer-Lituania
Scozia-Francia 2-0
0-1
1-0
11 ottobre 2006 Ucraina-Scozia
Georgia-Italia
Francia-Far Oer 2-0
1-3
5-0
24 marzo 2007 Scozia-Georgia
Far Oer-Ucraina
Lituania-Francia 2-1
0-2
0-1
28 marzo 2007 Ucraina-Lituania
Georgia-Far Oer
Italia-Scozia 1-0
3-1
2-0
2 giugno 2007 Far Oer-Italia
Lituania-Georgia
Francia-Ucraina 1-2
1-0
2-0
6 giugno 2007 Francia-Georgia
Lituania-Italia
Far Oer-Scozia 1-0
0-2
0-2
8 settembre 2007 Georgia-Ucraina
Scozia-Lituania
Italia-Francia 1-1
3-1
0-0
12 settembre 2007 Ucraina-Italia
Francia-Scozia
Lituania-Far Oer 1-2
0-1
2-1
13 ottobre 2007 Scozia-Ucraina
Italia-Georgia
Far Oer-Francia
17 ottobre 2007 Georgia-Scozia
Ucraina-Far Oer
Francia-Lituania
17 novembre 2007 Lituania-Ucraina
Scozia-Italia
21 novembre 2007 Italia-Far Oer
Georgia-Lituania
Ucraina-Francia

 

Iceland vs Italy?
Anyway, the past is the past, may logics be proved wrong :hopeful:

:howler:
that was a friendly in 2005 march (more then a year before wc)