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Dearman

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An actively Swedish superstar versus legendary danish forward. The two are balanced forward and are successful in Italian Series A. Ibrahimovic's career has been the lately period. He just won the third Italian Series A footballer of the year. Even so, he never get a very top place in Ballon'Dor partly due to performance with Sweden national team and He reached world-class just around 1 - 1.5 season at Inter Milan in overall club career.

Elkjaer was in his prime during the career at Hellas Verona for four seasons. Guerin Sportivo rate him 6.2, 6.38, 6.33 during 2.5 seasons 1984 - 1986 (I have no evidence of rating of him between 1987 -1988). However, he had got a smooth career profile with Lokeren in Belgian league. Elkjaer was an extraordinary player with Denmark national team and even reached 2nd and 3rd place in Ballon'Dor once of each.

Rating base on level of competition

Club Career : Ibrahimovic 8.3, Elkjaer 8
NT Career : Ibrahimovic 7.5, Elkajer 8

Comparison of Skill

Positional Play : Elkjaer 9, Ibrahimovic 8.75
Strength-Stamina : Elkjaer 8.75, Ibrahimovic
Speed : Elkjaer 8.5, Ibrahimovic 8
Dribbling : Elkjaer 8.5, Ibrahimovic 9
Assisting : Elkjaer 7.5, Ibrahimovic 8
Basic Shooting : Elkjaer 8.75, Ibrahimovic 8.75
Aerial Scoring : Elkjaer 8.5, Ibrahimovic 7.5
Technique : Elkjaer 8.5, Ibrahimovic 9.25
 
Registered just to answer. Two things: His name is Larsen, not Larsson. And you claim they were of equal speed, 8,5?? Get real! Ibra is slow and immobile, Elkjaer was lightning fast. I'll take Elkjaer in my team over Ibra any day of the week.
 
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Registered just to answer. Two things: His name is Larsen, not Larsson. And you claim they were of equal speed, 8,5?? Get real! Ibra is slow and immobile, Elkjaer was lightning fast. I'll take Elkjaer in my team over Ibra any day of the week.
You are right on speed comparison and I just get used to Henrik Larsson name :howler:

Anyway, Welcome to history forum.
 
Dearman, not sure if strength and stamina should be lumped in one category.

For example, Ibrahimovic has a lot of strength but doesn't have the greatest stamina.
 
WTF I voted for Elkjaer while I wanted to vote for Zlatan. :palm:

These two players pretty much belong to two different classes. I understand that Elkjaer played in a pretty brilliant Danish NT while Zlatan is a player of a rather dull Swedish NT but unless someone proves me that the Danish NT relied heavily on Elkjaer (which isn't true, I already know it, and in the end they choked nevertheless anyway), I can't see how the curriculum of Elkjaer at club level is nearly comparable to the one of Zlatan. Elkjaer played for Lokeren and Hellas Verona mainly and, again, someone should prove Hellas Verona relied heavily on him, but won't be easy since I followed that season and the success of Hellas Verona was the typical success of a real team.
It's a no brainer. Really.
 
concerning dribbling and assists I suppose Elkjaer > Ibra, but at aerial socring, I am not sure its that far for the danish
Anyway, mz vote is for Preben Elkjaer Larsen, an important piece of that superbe danish team between 1986 and 1992
 
I do think Verona in 84/85 relied heavily on Elkjær's contribution, as did Lokeren and especially the Danish NT. However, I must agree with Toni that Zlatan, ballon d'or or not, is greater, for consistency, though, not for being a big-game player (Elkjær the contrary. If we think back of the most memorable matches the Danish NT has ever played (for example Belgium 84, USSR 85, Uruguay 86) Elkjær was always the protagonist. Against Uruguay, for instance, he scored a hattrick and assisted two goals).
 
I think Zlatan's quality is 8.9123 while Elkjaer's was 8.8764. This is decided.

For the Verona Scudetto team Elkjaer scored eight goals. And I believe that was his highest-scoring season in Italy. A good player who had a couple of great tournaments, but come on, he's not even close to Zlatan's level...
 
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Dearman, not sure if strength and stamina should be lumped in one category.

For example, Ibrahimovic has a lot of strength but doesn't have the greatest stamina.
Yes, it is different ability but I combine it due to level of ability importance.
 
IMO Larsen is 2,54% better than Ibrahimovic (after VAT).
 
More seriously I've never seen Larsen play (I wasn't even born when he was at the top) so I just can't vote, sorry :(
 
Preben Elkjaer had only one season in Italy that might be considered very good/great - it was the year when Verona won the championship.

Before that he spend his career playing for Lokeren in the Belgian league from 78-84.
Finished 4th once ('79) in Golden Shoe voting (only time in Top5), far from impressive.

Classic case of a player getting overrated because of strong Ballon D'or votings.

It's Zlatan and at the end of his career I doubt it'll be close.


Awesome
one falling out with the legendary coach Hennes Weisweiler earned a legendary status in Denmark: Weisweiler approached Elkjær and said that he had been informed that the player had spent the night at a nightclub in the company of a bottle of whiskey and a lady, and wanted to know if that was true. Elkjær replied that it was a lie, in fact it was a bottle of vodka and TWO ladies.
 
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I do think Verona in 84/85 relied heavily on Elkjær's contribution, as did Lokeren and especially the Danish NT. However, I must agree with Toni that Zlatan, ballon d'or or not, is greater, for consistency, though, not for being a big-game player (Elkjær the contrary. If we think back of the most memorable matches the Danish NT has ever played (for example Belgium 84, USSR 85, Uruguay 86) Elkjær was always the protagonist. Against Uruguay, for instance, he scored a hattrick and assisted two goals).
If Guerin Sportivo had reliabilty of its own standard between seasons, Elkjaer was not the best in 1984 - 1985 that Hellas Verona won the trophy. As I indicate in the topic, he was rated 6.2 in the 1984 - 1985 season, 6.38 in the 1985 - 1986 and 6.33 in the half 1986 - 1987.
 
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Preben Elkjaer had only one season in Italy that might be considered very good/great - it was the year when Verona won the championship.

Before that he spend his career playing for Lokeren in the Belgian league from 78-84.
Finished 4th once ('79) in Golden Shoe voting (only time in Top5), far from impressive.

Classic case of a player getting overrated because of strong Ballon D'or votings.

It's Zlatan and at the end of his career I doubt it'll be close.
But Ibrahimovic's individual performance is not a lot inferior to Elkjaer in NT career ? Ibrahimovic with Sweden has no highlight in the career while Elkjaer did a great result not only for World Cup but overall goalscoring stats can show his effectiveness of his main duty.
 
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