This is my proposition, let's all sign this document and make this the biggest thread ever...let's make something for the best of football itself...
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Ricardo Ferreira
I'll Start
Ricardo Ferreira
Kick Blatter out of Football
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What a complete ********, seriously. So basically a club makes all the effort to sign a player, nurture said player, protect them from press criticism etc. But as soon as a player wants to leave, the club should have no say in things whatsoever? Screw that. It'd be hilairious if Ronaldo was left in stands for a season.
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whta are you talking about man!!!!
Manchester UTD is gonna get paid big money just like Inter got paid when we ve got the Real Ronaldo.
They have done great since, whats the big deal.
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Sure but in doing so they'll be setting a rather worrying precedent for the future. United would rather not look weak and let Ronaldo and Real Madrid get whatever they want.
As I said, nothing would please me greater come deadline day and Ronaldo was still at United. He deserves the lynching he's going to get.
As I said, nothing would please me greater come deadline day and Ronaldo was still at United. He deserves the lynching he's going to get.
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It's ridiculous. These guys have no loyalty. Ronaldo signed a new contract with Man Utd a year or so ago & got a big pay rise IIRC. Now he wants to leave & is apparently a "slave".
:howler: what a gimp Ronaldo is...
The difference between you and him is that he signed a contract which says he plays for them for a number of years. It is the same thing when you join the military, you sign a contract that you serve for a number of years. Comparing it to slavery is idiotic because he CHOSE to sign, no one forced him.
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They won't though, if he's still there, he'll be in the starting line up because they know he's their best bet at winning trophies. But on the principle of things, it'd be great.
Great use of the word "slave", specially considering the lousy payment he gets, and the total mistreatment he receives at Man U, talk about laboral exploitation :rollani:.
It won't happen, but it would really set a nice precedent for the rest of players that act like him (even if it would only happen for the first few games).
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Sure, quite common in certain positions, like involving trade secrets or narrow competition. However, your guy, 1. knew before it when he signed teh contract and 2. was probabbly heavily compensate for it. In football, try similar thing , ala, you can't play for a year after you leave teh club, and NOBODY would sign a deal.
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That's no different than Cristiano Ronaldo's situation.
The manager I mentioned freely and without coercion signed a contract in the full knowledge that it would place serious limits on his ability to secure employment elsewhere in the industry. Cristiano Ronaldo freely and without coercion signed a contract in the full knowledge that it would place serious limits on his ability to secure employment elsewhere in the industry.
Just as that manager is free to quit whenever he wants to work for anyone who'll hire him outside the industry in question, Ronaldo is free to quit United and go sailing around the world in his yacht with a group of supermodels. Conversely, Ronaldo could decide to become a plumber's apprentice in Kabul, and United would have no right whatsoever to demand 100 million euros from the plumber in exchange for Ronaldo's services.
Ronaldo is free to do whatever he wants, and the few limits that constrain him are in place with his full knowledge and acceptance, as demonstrated by his signing of his contract.
The situation bears no comparison whatsoever to slavery. Slaves don't get paid anything, let alone millions of pounds. Slaves don't choose to enter into their situation of their own free will. Slaves don't have the capacity to quit and do something else whenever they want. Slaves don't get free world-class medical treatment. Slaves don't gain worldwide fame, which they can then parlay into lucrative endorsement deals. Slaves don't have kids lining up to ask for their autograph and tell them they're great. The list of differences goes on and on, and I can't understand how anyone could make the comparison with a straight face.
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Best explanation I have read of this farce. Brilliant post.
Sorry pal you are way off target here.
Is it not personal freedom to choose to sign a long term contract??? Nobody forced ronaldo to sign a 4 year contract. Who protects the clubs if players can just choose to walk away from contracts? In business there is a thing called gardening period where top executives cant work in other top positions for a certain period. But they get compensated for it. Top players get the best compensation for giving up their "freedom" but the most important thing to remember is that THEY DECIDE TO SIGN UP TO LONG TERM CONTRACTS.
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When you put club's intrest ahead of person's free will, then it's slavery. Period.
Xavinho, seriously, give me a break. Yes, he gets all this and his situation in material world is better than uncle Tom 200 years ago but you can't bend teh principle. I despise CR motivation, to get more money or whatever, but it does not mean, that he does not have the same basic right like we all.
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Football situations don't compare to the average joe in work. Most get stupid money, and are greedy sob to backstab their clubs who stood by them when they were in need to go to another club, esp one who use every underhanded method to disrupt the player and his club.
It's not slavery, and is in no way comparable to it.
It's not slavery, and is in no way comparable to it.
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This is not a complicated situation.
Only two things can happen here, either the player stays at the club, or he leaves the club. In order for him to go, the club would have to sell him or release him by mutual consent. Those are the rules and everybody is familiar with them.
There is no wider issue here with regards to slavery. It's just something Blatter said, either to express himself (badly) or to gain a little publicity as usual.
Only two things can happen here, either the player stays at the club, or he leaves the club. In order for him to go, the club would have to sell him or release him by mutual consent. Those are the rules and everybody is familiar with them.
There is no wider issue here with regards to slavery. It's just something Blatter said, either to express himself (badly) or to gain a little publicity as usual.
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Yes. But what about LEAVING the contract? The very same free will applies.
what about marrage and divorce? Once you are married, you can not divorce?
And, what about, when a club wants to SELL a player? If ManU wants to sell CR but CR does not want to leave? What happens? ManU sells him anyway and nobody would even think about it.
tony, so you think that money compensates everything? Everything is allowed there because of money?
As I said they are anything but slaves they get paid millions to perform a few seal tricks, and sign a multi-million contract, then decide they want to leave a year later. Money doesn't compensate everything, but it makes it alot easier, and it shows the clear greed of footballers today. Sure it's important that the player performs otherwise he can be sold, same for club, if they don't perform they don't win. But that's quality of work, not slavery.
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