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#21 ·
Koeman4 said:
Let me read again... mmm, it says "Catalan", not "barcelonista"... I see what you mean. :rollani:





Maybe, he's German. Probably his father killed some jews... or wait, isn't that an argument based on the fact that he's German and I'm putting them all under the same umbrella?
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So your comparing supporting Barcelona to ethnic genocide? Christ, some people are beyond help.

And nice response regarding his father, real classy.

Really if you thought you had the moral highground you just fell off it and died.
 
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#22 ·
He is a La Liga ref, of course he was bad. :D

And Koeman isn't ACTUALLY calling Schuster a nazi, jesus people, learn to read. He is saying the guy is criticising the ref BECAUSE he is Catalan.
 
#23 ·
Koeman4 said:
doesn't anyone see discrimination based on nationality?
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Nope
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
DougCoglan said:
Why did the journalist ask about the referee? Was he bad? I see a lot were booked and Ramos went.
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Real Madrid complain about the red card for Ramos, which was too harsh (the 2nd yellow card, I mean), and a supposed penalty on Raul, which wasn't penalty, IMO.

They forget to say that they were already losing 2-0 and also that, before these actions, "the Catalan" didn't want to see a penalty of Diarra on Navas nor the elbow of Diarra on Crespo's face... minor details, I guess.
 
#25 ·
LOL. :howler:

He would have said the same thing if for example we were playing against Almeria, fighting with Seville for the title and a referee from Seville was appointed for our match.

He didn't insult CATALONIA. He isn't racist and that wasn't a racist comment. :wallbang: He said CATALONIA because of its relation with Barcelona.

ufff.. some people just want their nation to be insulted :howler:

I fail to see whats racist about that. If we played against Milan and the referee appointed was Italian, and he said "The referee is Italian, that says it all" Does that mean he insulted Italy? No. Now go drink some milk and grow up will you.
 
#26 ·
Koeman4 said:
It's not out of context. The context is clear, he lost the game and Madrid looked bad. Instead of making some self-criticism (since I think we all agree that Madrid played bad), he comes out and says that they lost because... the referee is a Catalan.

His intentions? I have no idea and I'm just guessing, but I think he pretends to start a fire so the smoke can hide his responsability in the defeat. He lived in Spain since the early 80s and he's not a rookie that doesn't know what he's talking about. The consequence: Marca don't talk about how bad Madrid played, but about a Catalan referee. He did it!

If he wanted to attack Barça (btw, he's a Barça soci yet), he failed. First of all, he talked about the Catalans. And, secondly, what does Barça have to do with Madrid failing in Sevilla?

I can understand that he's pissed. In fact, this is something that talks well about him, since it shows that he cares and he has a high degree of self-exgience about his work. On the other hand, he fails when it comes to look at the guilties of this defeat. It wasn't Barcelona... and it wasn't the referee. He's already old enough to accept defeat as part of the game. And all this, with Madrid being the leaders. I don't want to imagine how things would be if, suddenly, Madrid collapse for any reason.


And it's only him who wants to heat the atmosphere, because noone in Barcelona said a word about Madrid during the whole year.
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Well that whole post was basically telling me nothing. You are just making assumptions and talking about how he failed to take a swipe at the Barca which is totally contradictory to your first claim that he was racist.

Once again, put the pieces together. If 'Catalan' is mentioned, you don't think of Catalunya, you think of Barca (in football terms)who are Real Madrid's eternal rivals. I don't understand why you keep bringing up the fact that he won't admit his own defeats.. Which has nothing to do with racism.

You of all people should know of the heat between the two clubs.. Taking it to racism is way too far.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Quetzalcoatl said:
So your comparing supporting Barcelona to ethnic genocide? Christ, some people are beyond help.

And nice response regarding his father, real classy.

Really if you thought you had the moral highground you just fell off it and died.
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Who's comparing? Tell me where did I compare it with the ethnical genocide.
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
Real_Madrid said:
LOL. :howler:

He would have said the same thing if for example we were playing against Almeria, fighting with Seville for the title and a referee from Seville was appointed for our match.

He didn't insult CATALONIA. He isn't racist and that wasn't a racist comment. :wallbang: He said CATALONIA because of its relation with Barcelona.

ufff.. some people just want their nation to be insulted :howler:

I fail to see whats racist about that. If we played against Milan and the referee appointed was Italian, and he said "The referee is Italian, that says it all" Does that mean he insulted Italy? No. Now go drink some milk and grow up will you.
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Imagine if I reply to you with something like:

"Which is your religion? Muslim?... I won't even reply to you, that says it all".


How would it look like? ;)
 
#29 ·
Real_Madrid said:
LOL. :howler:

He would have said the same thing if for example we were playing against Almeria, fighting with Seville for the title and a referee from Seville was appointed for our match.

He didn't insult CATALONIA. He isn't racist and that wasn't a racist comment. :wallbang: He said CATALONIA because of its relation with Barcelona.

ufff.. some people just want their nation to be insulted :howler:

I fail to see whats racist about that. If we played against Milan and the referee appointed was Italian, and he said "The referee is Italian, that says it all" Does that mean he insulted Italy? No. Now go drink some milk and grow up will you.
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This made no sense.
 
#31 ·
Schuster was stupid saying that because he is incapable of admiting his errors and prefers to look for excuses but that's the style of a lot of crap managers. An example that pops immediately to my mind is K4's beloved Ronald Koeman who is an absolute master of shitty excuses.

Still, I think when he said Catalan he was obviously implying that the ref was helping Barca and only a people with identity crisis would see in that a racist or xenophobic attack.
 
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Filipe Reis said:
Schuster was stupid saying that because he is incapable of admiting his errors and prefers to look for excuses but that's the style of a lot of crap managers. An example that pops immediately to my mind is K4's beloved Ronald Koeman who is an absolute master of shitty excuses.

Still, I think when he said Catalan he was obviously implying that the ref was helping Barca and only a people with identity crisis would see in that a racist or xenophobic attack.
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Exactly, he's obviously implying that the fact of being Catalan makes you a bad professional that started the game with the idea of helping Barcelona, damaging Real Madrid. If that's not a prejudice against the professionality of the Catalans, can you tell me what's this?
 
#33 ·
Koeman4 said:
Exactly, he's obviously implying that the fact of being Catalan makes you a bad professional that started the game with the idea of helping Barcelona, damaging Real Madrid. If that's not a prejudice against the professionality of the Catalans, can you tell me what's this?
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It's good not to forget the context in which we are discussing. Schuster is a football coach, he was commenting on a football game about a football referee. Why do you see there a need to bring in the socio-political complexity of the relationship between Catalonia and Madrid? Don't you think you are overreacting a tiny bit?
 
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#34 ·
He's only implying it in your head.
 
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Filipe Reis said:
It's good not to forget the context in which we are discussing. Schuster is a football coach, he was commenting on a football game about a football referee. Why do you see there a need to bring in the socio-political complexity of the relationship between Catalonia and Madrid? Don't you think you are overreacting a tiny bit?
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Am I bringing in this political problem? I think it was Schuster who did it and I am offended because he doubted about the professionality of a coach because he was born in Catalonia. And I wonder what's the limit of all this?

As I said, Schuster isn't new in Spain, so he knows what he's talking about. Schuster implies that there is a referee that has acted with the clear intention of damaging Real Madrid and he supports his argument in one reason: the referee is Catalan.

Of course, the political problem is behind his words, but it's not me, but Schuster who is talking about this political complot to finish with Real Madrid.
 
#36 ·
Are you trying to tell me that never in the history of Barcelona's coaches there was one that said the same about a referee from Madrid? Are you that perfect?
 
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#37 ·
I'm sorry K4. But you are overreacting, and it's unfortunate that you have to interpret his words in this way. When really, there is no politics or racism involved at all, and your repetitive posts from your point of view have done nothing to prove otherwise.
 
#39 ·
Real_Madrid said:
LOL. :howler:

He would have said the same thing if for example we were playing against Almeria, fighting with Seville for the title and a referee from Seville was appointed for our match.

He didn't insult CATALONIA. He isn't racist and that wasn't a racist comment. :wallbang: He said CATALONIA because of its relation with Barcelona.

ufff.. some people just want their nation to be insulted :howler:

I fail to see whats racist about that. If we played against Milan and the referee appointed was Italian, and he said "The referee is Italian, that says it all" Does that mean he insulted Italy? No. Now go drink some milk and grow up will you.
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wow just wow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
 
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