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Despite having reached the semis, a lot of people have said that Italy were lucky, they haven't played serious opposition. This is to put any doubts to rest once and for all.

Italy topped their group beating Ghana and the Czechs and drew with the US. Topping the group certainly was not luck and it was a tough group too compared to what teams like England, Germany and Portugal got. They beat Australia in the second round. It was not a lucky win. Italy were the best team despite being down to 10 men. Then they went on to steamroll Ukraine. People might argue that they were easier to what say France got in the knockouts, but then by topping the group, Italy made their own luck which France did not by finishing second. If Italy had indeed finished second, they would have run into Brazil and then France. So if you do your job, you have nothing to worry about. You might say the penalty against Australia was lucky. Well, it wasn't. Grosso made a great run through the Australian defense and went down. It wasn't a dive, bt he wasn't brought down either. That's how you "win" a penalty.

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All people who think Italy are lucky to be there (if that includes you, then you too).
 
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Gerraaaaaaaard said:
Despite having reached the semis, a lot of people have said that Italy were lucky, they haven't played serious opposition. This is to put any doubts to rest once and for all.

Italy topped their group beating Ghana and the Czechs and drew with the US. Topping the group certainly was not luck and it was a tough group too compared to what teams like England, Germany and Portugal got. They beat Australia in the second round. It was not a lucky win. Italy were the best team despite being down to 10 men. Then they went on to steamroll Ukraine. People might argue that they were easier to what say France got in the knockouts, but then by topping the group, Italy made their own luck which France did not by finishing second. If Italy had indeed finished second, they would have run into Brazil and then France. So if you do your job, you have nothing to worry about. You might say the penalty against Australia was lucky. Well, it wasn't. Grosso made a great run through the Australian defense and went down. It wasn't a dive, bt he wasn't brought down either. That's how you "win" a penalty.

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Why bring back the debate of Grosso? Its simple - it was a dive (He could have stayed up), but the pen was deserved through Neill's stupidity in the situation.
 
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A.Murray said:
Why bring back the debate of De Grosso? Its simple - it was a dive (He could have stayed up), but the pen was deserved through Neill's stupidity in the situation.
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That's called winning a penalty. If the defender's stupid enough you should go for it.
 
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A.Murray said:
That's called: exactly my point, therefore - Grosso dived.
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He induced the penatlty. lets put it that way. ;)
 
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Italy was unlucky in the group stage draw, getting into one of the most difficult groups. But that test was passed well, it wasn't easy but the group was won. In the playoffs Italy has had the luckiest draw yet, first Australia and then a total jackpot in the QF's - Ukraine, by far the weakest team who made it past the Second Round.

About the ref decisions - favourable and unfavourable decsions have balanced each other out so far, anybody who says Italy has made it so far thanks to biased refereeing needs their head checked.
 
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A.Murray said:
Its simple - it was a dive (He could have stayed up)
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Just because he could have stayed up means it was a dive? Ridiculous. It's part and parcel of modern footballers to make the most of contact, legal or illegal.

A dive is simulation of contact. Blatant divers go down without any hint of contact and that's what FIFA is attempting to clamp down.

If "making the most of contact" means "dive", then every single footballer on the pitch in every World Cup match will be booked before the referee blows for half-time.
 
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Italy had God on their side as the headquarters are in Rome

but the current pope is German.... this will produce an interesting game.

the question is: where does Gods loyalty lie? with his home or his first man?....lol
 
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Great Outdoors said:
Just because he could have stayed up means it was a dive? Ridiculous. It's part and parcel of modern footballers to make the most of contact, legal or illegal.

A dive is simulation of contact. Blatant divers go down without any hint of contact and that's what FIFA is attempting to clamp down.

If "making the most of contact" means "dive", then every single footballer on the pitch in every World Cup match will be booked before the referee blows for half-time.
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Football is a contact sport - not a non-contact sport, if all players in the preimership made the most of all contact - all games would be boring with the referees whistle constantly blowing!
 
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I think you were right you did have a very hard group I rember after the ghana match alan hansen and that lot saying well ghana had chances aswell but now we no that they had chances agenst every team they play look at brazil they had more shots on goal and better full chances agenst them than italy and well agenst usa you had a bad match but every team in the world cup has had a bad match germany have theres coming up hopefully and agenst the czechs well i think italy would of won it even if it was 11 v 11 so there are my thoughts.
 
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Italy deserves to be in the semi's as much as anybody else. Why is it that the Portuguese and Italian's are criticized while the German's and French have played no better? The latter are just as lucky that everyone else was crap.
 
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