But that's exactly the problem. It's YOU and other Argentines that come into OUR forum to blame US for Argentine failures. It's NOT ON. People will defend their clubs, since clubs are infinitely more important that single players. You guys are simply making too much out of the Saviola situation, just like most other Argentines. Sorin wasn't a failure at Barca by ANY means, and he was both loved by the fans and appreciated by the coach. It was an EU rule change that forced him out, NOTHING else. There is nothing to blame us on in that situation, yet people try to. Saviola isn't unwanted or crap like that, we want him back. Didn't Morientes go on a year old to Monaco to get more games? Didn't he go back to Madrid a better player? Doesn't the coach there now want him in the team? Didn't everybody benefit in the end?
What's the problem? If it's all our fault, someone explain why Brazilians never flood into our forum to complain when a Brazilian leaves? Geovanni was shifted when the EU rule changed, as was Rochemback. But no-one from the Brazil forum came in to cry about it. Why? What's the difference?
If someone can give REAL reasons regardless their attitude towards Barcelona, and give facts, then I and every other Barca fan will listen. But until then, no-one will respond kindly to blind insults and remarks.
But Visca in this case is the argentinian forum, anyway I told my opinion about Saviola's case, which BTW as spAd said more than correctly Bielsa many times used him badly...when he didn't use him, and el pibe can be pretty mad, but in thecase of Saviola you can't expect after three seasons of being alwyas under test, when he already made 16 goals in his first season, and gave his blood everytime, to be always "there", after all what is his big mistake to not want him to cut his salary?, he is a Gaspart NEGOCIADO, no doubt, but in the middle we have a real class player, about Geovanni and Rochemback is like argies complaining for mistreating to Piojo Lopez, we as them care the less for those type of players (though in the case of Geovanni he was just shy dude, who again was involve in a negociado), the thing is that as spAd said too many disapiontments because of Bielsa's stubborness with Roman and Saviola, and then you making everything Master Yoda of Bielsa, read Van Gaal, made to two of the one more love players from the last years in Argentina, and from the two major clubs.
About Morientes: don't you agree was PURE shit the treatment to such a real class player and hardworking player like him?, that is the issue, as Morientes, Saviola doesn't deserve to be treat it always like in a test, same for finally getting recognition one of my fav players in la Liga, who gave me so much pleasure with his duo with Ibagaza..:ETOO!, hopefully he would gain World Recognition in Barca, anyway again on why the reaction about el Pibe and Roman, is that also are beloved from China to Mexico, while Sorin being recognize and all is not exactly in that level, so people didn't make such big deal for him.
And just to spice it up a bit,if Saviola is "unappreciated" once in Barcelona,he is TEN times more unaprreaceated in his own country
Not by the people, BUT sure by Bielsa (he has lots of complains about that here, he just is gainoing respect more not of winning, because of the way, this gold medal was great not only for obtaining it , because we obatained in awesome form, great pleasure to watch this argie team), and I pointed MY nonsense with him too, the thing is that being such a big club like yours many times you get players beloved fom their respective countries, and many times are pretty bad used, in terms of cahnging their positions, in not playing at all, in being received "yo a este no lo pedi", the "mancha" after a bad experience in Barca (add Madrid too) is more than significative one that only Maradonas can get over it primarly, and just one or two Morientes...
It's better for him to play as a support striker
totally agree, he is that, that was his best role in River, is just we must not be naif all this media chasing him for extra foootball stuff is just to throw some dirt on him to make it easier his loan...this shit happens everywhere, same happens with Roman in Boca, but here argie fans care less for suppose finnancial issues and are more heart, than brain whenit comes to defend our fauvorite players against even successfull Dirigentes as Macri, (same happens with Bianchi), and there relies also a reason in a whole picture why you have a real STATE, and we are a bunch of disorganized "indians", all wanting to be CACIQUES.
To make you understand better, imagine this (Boca=BArca, Argentina a market like Europe), your Pep (one of my fav players EVER), come to River, and is the sub of Husain (read Gabri, Motta) because he doesn't mark enough, disn't Boca know what were they buying?...Bianchi in the media says Yo a este no lo quiero, etc..etc.. or imagine yoiu have a youngster with the achieves of saviola and here is receive no matter how many goals with constant tests, and bench for three seasons, and then wanting to cut his salary, etc..etc..; also let the argies put in soo many Latin American belove players that comes to Argentina to earn a spot and never get a real chance of show themselve...the final issue is that at least me, that every day I pass I'm more a players fan, than a club one, break my nerves with injustice towards any class player by the Dirigentes and Coaches from everywhere, so I talk only for me in this one, so lest all get calm and forget this issue, and as I always joke about, something is wrong since Milonguita Heredia with Barca and argies.
PD: Solari's treatment in MAdrid is even worse than Saviola and Roman together, he is always one of their best players in the best and worse seasons, and alwyas in transfers list, but as el indiecito isn't as belove as the two involve here, there is not much big deal with fans.
