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OFFICIAL: Real Madrid signs Newcastle United CB Jonathan Woodgate
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You hit the point!Liternit said:
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To be honest it not going tp be the first half of the season that concerns me, We have shown even with Guti & Beckham we can put a formidable team on the field.
my concern is that he he is healthy and fully functional in the squad come crunch time. We can absorb his lost in the short term but to make and serious pushes on all 3 trophies his health is vital!
my concern is that he he is healthy and fully functional in the squad come crunch time. We can absorb his lost in the short term but to make and serious pushes on all 3 trophies his health is vital!
Slightly worried about his fitness, but other than that Woodgate is one of the most talented players around.
Madrid should be happy, they've signed two quality CB's in Samuel and Woodgate and all we now need is a world-class defensive mid.
At least now we won't have to put up with Raul Bravo and Pavon. Well, not regularly anyway!
Madrid should be happy, they've signed two quality CB's in Samuel and Woodgate and all we now need is a world-class defensive mid.
At least now we won't have to put up with Raul Bravo and Pavon. Well, not regularly anyway!
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still think perez is a good business man? :dielaugh:
woodgate is a good defender, but give me a break.
who the fu(k pays that kind of money for a defender that hardly plays?
not to mention his high salary.
perez just dont know how to conduct football business.
no way in the world camacho told him he want woodgate.
it is perez who pushed the name to camacho to silence him (just before he quits the team...).
perez just wanted more english company to his english puppets...
and to think we could had Milito by now after one season with us,
have cannavaro as backup with around 3M and colo another backup for around 5M.
now that is what i call management. (not to mention, if perez would started looking for a defender 2 months ago, he would probably got a good price like 20M for a lot of well proven defenders).
woodgate is a good defender, but give me a break.
who the fu(k pays that kind of money for a defender that hardly plays?
not to mention his high salary.
perez just dont know how to conduct football business.
no way in the world camacho told him he want woodgate.
it is perez who pushed the name to camacho to silence him (just before he quits the team...).
perez just wanted more english company to his english puppets...
and to think we could had Milito by now after one season with us,
have cannavaro as backup with around 3M and colo another backup for around 5M.
now that is what i call management. (not to mention, if perez would started looking for a defender 2 months ago, he would probably got a good price like 20M for a lot of well proven defenders).
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If i remember correctly, and i do 
, Milito wasnt bough not because he was not fit, but cause of heart problem. Irregular heart beat, i think, and with that you can never be sure. Also that came just when Foe disaster was fresh, so no risk was taken. Forget about it already !!
I dont like Perez either, but WTF? We ALL wanted him to start spendind on defensive players, havent we? Well, he sure did, he bought two world-class defenders. World-class doesnt come cheap you know..
, Milito wasnt bough not because he was not fit, but cause of heart problem. Irregular heart beat, i think, and with that you can never be sure. Also that came just when Foe disaster was fresh, so no risk was taken. Forget about it already !!I dont like Perez either, but WTF? We ALL wanted him to start spendind on defensive players, havent we? Well, he sure did, he bought two world-class defenders. World-class doesnt come cheap you know..
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i think lista and Mills are right, he brought us 2 classy defenders this summer and were still moarning about... lets put any doubts away and welcome him to the team.
furthermore, like Helguera says we can play Helguera on his native position in the defensive midfield where he can do much better than in the defense. Thats what Camacho actually wanted and lately was calling for another central defender.
we didnt have too much choise... as he should be available for a reasonable price, should be class, with a reputation already, young and should be on eu-status. I meaan its damn hard to find classy defenders at all and with these demands its really hard. On the other side we took much too looong...as i guess we relied too much on Vieira. So he had to transfer a defender quickly after critisizm came up on his Owen move. The market is almost empty, Cannavaro is too old, though a reportedly asked price was ONLY 3m €, what should have been a no brainer. Colochini? is he on an eu-status? not a big reputation yet, though his price was good and hes young...maybe were still going for him, although i doubt about that. Also he needed to convince Newcastle about agreeing to the transfer in this late phase of summer... and thats only with an attractive price. Still i think it was too high considering hes injured. Anyway, he hits all the demands, still his injuries worry me. but when del Corral says its ok... well have to take it.
furthermore, like Helguera says we can play Helguera on his native position in the defensive midfield where he can do much better than in the defense. Thats what Camacho actually wanted and lately was calling for another central defender.
we didnt have too much choise... as he should be available for a reasonable price, should be class, with a reputation already, young and should be on eu-status. I meaan its damn hard to find classy defenders at all and with these demands its really hard. On the other side we took much too looong...as i guess we relied too much on Vieira. So he had to transfer a defender quickly after critisizm came up on his Owen move. The market is almost empty, Cannavaro is too old, though a reportedly asked price was ONLY 3m €, what should have been a no brainer. Colochini? is he on an eu-status? not a big reputation yet, though his price was good and hes young...maybe were still going for him, although i doubt about that. Also he needed to convince Newcastle about agreeing to the transfer in this late phase of summer... and thats only with an attractive price. Still i think it was too high considering hes injured. Anyway, he hits all the demands, still his injuries worry me. but when del Corral says its ok... well have to take it.
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yeah I guess, they found that and said to the press it was because of his knee to avoid any trouble for the player to find another club... although its not a favour to him id say.Lista said:If i remember correctly, and i do
Woodgate is a very good defender.
That out of the way, I can't see what Madrid want with an overpriced, injury-prone, dim witted, student bashing racist!
With all the money and effort Real have put into their image and marketing strategy, especially in asia, this is surely a step backwards.
That out of the way, I can't see what Madrid want with an overpriced, injury-prone, dim witted, student bashing racist!
With all the money and effort Real have put into their image and marketing strategy, especially in asia, this is surely a step backwards.
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WHy not we give Woody a season first, then pass the judgement. I see more EPL than La Liga, I feel that Woody is a reliable defender. His long balls out of defence has started many Newcastle attacks. maybe he can do that here, sth that we've lost since Hierro left. Besides, we've got Samuel, Helguera and Salgado to cover for him, so he'll fit in just fine. maybe with this move, we can finally see him get serious with his footie, and show his real talent to the world. If he messes up, I think there are still many teams back in England who would want him.
Would've prefered if we had gotten someone like Rio Ferdinand instead to complement Samuel, but Woody is Rio's direct replacement in the England NT, so that's not too far.
Would've prefered if we had gotten someone like Rio Ferdinand instead to complement Samuel, but Woody is Rio's direct replacement in the England NT, so that's not too far.
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Blah, blah, blah...
Camacho said he wanted Woodgate, so now you're saying that Perez planted it in his head? If Camacho was about to quit the team, as you say, how could Perez plant anything in his head? Surely if Camacho were that mad to quit, he wouldn't be listening to Perez anymore.
Then you actually think that Canna would be had for 3M and Colo for 5M? Didn't it occur to you that the price would go up during negotiations?
Fact is, you just don't like Perez. I suppose it irks you that he actually signed defenders this transfer season. It takes away your bread and butter complaint now that defense is actually coming to the Bernabeu. Notice how no one even mentions Samuel? Surely that was a move worth unequivocal approval. But no, detractors never take into consideration the positives when criticizing the object of their ire.
What I think is closer to the truth is that even if Perez signed Vieira, Canna and Colo (highly optimistic scenario) you'd still have moaned about something or other. Also, I'm pretty sure that those names you mentioned would be the only suitable players for transfer, anyone else would be rubbish. That's about as realistic as your demands.
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Welcome Woodgate, I was out of country and I came back opened AS's page and read Woodgates presentation is tomorrow, this guy is amazing! believe me guys when you see him playing you will love him. I never thought we would sign him, Samuel-Woodgate is just too good
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i wrote this before, perez caught camacho in a good position, another time he will quit and he will be marked as the "quiter", so i believe he told camacho that this is his defender.MAD Fan said:
well, i'm sure perez is as good as you in business so the prices will go up for just another 1M for each player - which is still a bargain.MAD Fan said:
you damn right i dont like him, and i hate what he is turning real madrid into.MAD Fan said:
only time will tell, but if we finish this season with no trophy, perez will be marked as the new gaspart and will get the boot by the socios.
Wrong here. those signing (even if i think will the money on vieira was too much), will be smart one and will create a well balanced real madrid.MAD Fan said:
there is nothing i want more then to real madrid to win every trophy possible this season.
there are more names, if he would have started looking at them earlier this summer.MAD Fan said:
i had enough of this discussion about perez, i will stop my criticism towards him and wait until the season ends then we will talk.
(i have no problem saying that my wish is that i will be wrong and perez's signing will be successful and bring back 10th UCL cup to real madrid)
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I really surprised to see Woodgate signed for Madrid. Wow, really a surprising news.
Anyway, Woodgate is good player. He is not a world class, but still an above average player. With Woodgate playing alongside Samuel, Helguera can back to his best position as DM.
However, I think 13 millions is too much. Perez really made mistake in his transfer strategy this season. If his objective is really to strengthen the defensive midfield area, I'd say he should have saved the money from selling Eto'o to sign Carvalho instead of wasting it on Owen. I realize that the failure of signing Vieira ruined his entire plan, but it's his fault he was over-confident and didn't come up with back-up plan. I don't even have idea that Real Madrid still have that much money to spend. If Perez willingly to make it up to Arsenal's fee and Vieira's salary demand. It would have gone with nice ending for Real.
Once again, 13 millions is too much. With that money, I prefer Coloccini or Milito. Perez is too brand-minded.
Anyway, Woodgate is good player. He is not a world class, but still an above average player. With Woodgate playing alongside Samuel, Helguera can back to his best position as DM.
However, I think 13 millions is too much. Perez really made mistake in his transfer strategy this season. If his objective is really to strengthen the defensive midfield area, I'd say he should have saved the money from selling Eto'o to sign Carvalho instead of wasting it on Owen. I realize that the failure of signing Vieira ruined his entire plan, but it's his fault he was over-confident and didn't come up with back-up plan. I don't even have idea that Real Madrid still have that much money to spend. If Perez willingly to make it up to Arsenal's fee and Vieira's salary demand. It would have gone with nice ending for Real.
Once again, 13 millions is too much. With that money, I prefer Coloccini or Milito. Perez is too brand-minded.
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