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I apologise if I have asked these questions before, but I would like some answers and dates.

1. When is our flag and anthem changing? I heard July 2, still nothing.

2. Has FSSCG had any discussions on what our strip will look like and who will provide it? I heard a rumour that we are going back to adidas.
 
1. Well our flag was supposed to change all with the anthem soon but now the retared montenegrin politicians are sabotaging it all over again. I swear the only thing they do in the federal parliament is sabotage...urgh.

2. No clue.
 
Fleka said:
2. Has FSSCG had any discussions on what our strip will look like and who will provide it? I heard a rumour that we are going back to adidas.
I really do hope we go back to Adidas, I loved those jerseys...
 
1) I hope our anthem and flag actually don't change..Did you see some of their propositions? Our flag would have two crests, a Serbian and Montenegrin (?) one.. Our anthem would also be actually split into two, one part would be "Boze Pravde" while the other to satisfy Montenegrins (?) would include "Oj svijetla majska zoro". To make matters worse, both anthems would be played at the same time.. :thmbdown: It's embarrasing..

2) I haven't heard anything about it, I don't mind Lotto.. With adidas we look just like any other team, at least we're original in our Lotto kits..
 
Yes I like the lotto shirts too now. The idea with 2 coats-of-arms was rejected. They were supposed to have a settled on a shade of blue but now I hear Marovic talking about two blue stripes (?). As for the anthems, the two tunes would be played one after the other (like the old Czechoslovak anthem which had 2 parts and also the old yugo royal anthem which had 3). If they are blended in well, I wouldn't mind...if you ask me I'd let them have a referendum tomorrow so they can leave or just shut up.
 
"Oj svijetla majska zoro" simply doesn't sound like an anthem to me. I'm not an expert but it simply doesn't.
 
It's a freakin' patriotic folk song. But Montenegro's real anthem, "Onamo namo" (not a bad tune IMO) is "too serbian" for the current neo-dukljani ensemble in power. :rollani:
I bet they'll scratch the "serbian" lines from "oj svijetla majska zoro" too. Idiots. Why is our country being pulled by the finger by a bunch of idiots? Ugh. :wallbang:
 
Serbia should let montenegro go, there just holding us back from going towards the future. We cant have a proper flag or a proper anthem with them, Serbia should just tell them to go if they wanna go, theyll be begging us in about 2 years time to come back anyway. They have nothing to live off in Montenegro anyway ... what are they going to eat ? fish .. drink sea water ? .. Montenegro is nothing without Serbia. :doh:
 
Savo said:
Serbia should let montenegro go, there just holding us back from going towards the future.
:rollani:

What about those that feel Serbian or want to remain with Serbia? Which BTW are larger in number than those brainwashed by Milo and his alike. If it ever comes to the day Montenegro separates, then it will be a terrible shame for all Serbs.
 
Srpska Sparta propanuti nece

There won't be changes in the SCG anthem and flag till the referendum which is a part of the Belgrade treaty ("Beogradski sporazum"). Moreover, neither Srbia nor Montenegro have official anthems yet, nor Serbia has new coat of arms (still has the ones of Soc. Rep. Serbia), nor Monenegro has her official flag (the one with sky-blue color is just temporary and was created only to differ from the Serbian flag). Recently, Montenegrin Parliament had a debate on the flag an anthem. The proposed flag - red flag with the white Montenegrin eagle (it looks like the Albanian flag with white eagle instead of black) - and the proposed anthem - "Oj svijetla..." were discussed but not addopted. Consequently, no changes in the SCG flag will occur. On the other hand, there is no debate in the Serbian Parliament about the state symbol and state anthem. Till Serbia has her new constitution, we will have what we have. So no need to blame Montenegro for all stupidities since the state of Serbia has her substantial share when it comes to stupidities.

Even the coat of arms that Savo displays in his avtar is irregular and is made to look like Serbian, but it really is not the Serbian Royal Eagle. So they should either bring back the real Srerbian white eagle, or remove this double-headed bird and put some republican symbol that symbolizes nation and the country (Pancicevu omoriku, gusle, sljivu, frulu, ili kombinaciju).

Finally, for Savo and all other Montenegring bashers. Mind your own business and leave Serbia and Montenegro coexist together. There are 50+% of people in Montenegro who declare themselves as Serbian, and they have done that often risking their jobs, safty and well being. So, who are you to suggest that those people should be cut off from Serbia? Moreover, if Montenegro ever leaves the common state, a great part of Serbian cultural and historical tradition will go away. And Serbian cultural heritage and tradition is not big enough to forfiet a part of it just because there is a group of Montenegrin mafia politicians who want to gain independence for tehir own profit. Future generations of Serbs without the tradition of Miljanov's "Cojstvo i junastvo", without Njegos' "Gorski vijenac", etc. will be different than the ones who were brought up on those traditions. And those were not only Montenegrin Serbs but Serbs everywhere where Serbian name is mentioned and honored.
 
Montenegro bashers ? ha ha ha

good one man.

I dunt bash montenegro, i state the facts, the fact is the a big number of Montengrins in Montenegro dont call themselves "Serbs", they refer to themselves as "Montenegrins". Which infact is a Serb ? or not a Serb ?

Why dont you tell me ben ?

:D
 
Parni Valjak said:
:rollani:

What about those that feel Serbian or want to remain with Serbia? Which BTW are larger in number than those brainwashed by Milo and his alike. If it ever comes to the day Montenegro separates, then it will be a terrible shame for all Serbs.
Thats what im saying, Milo is the person who is to blame for this, he has brainwashed the Montenegro people, one day he will be pro Serbia and Montenegro, and then the next day, he tells his people Montenegro deserves to be one country.

He is one day something else, and then the next day he totaly breaks his promises and lies.
 
We shouldn't "let them go"...but we should force them to a referendum. It's clear: in the official census 36% declared themselves Serbian 40% Montenegrin and 62% declared Serbian as the mother tongue. We can't lose. Then, once they lose this referendum, then the DPS-kamarila is gone. Argh.
 
Yeah, and I bet out of that 40%, at least 50% are siptari..
 
Savo said:
Montenegro bashers ? ha ha ha

good one man.

I dunt bash montenegro, i state the facts, the fact is the a big number of Montengrins in Montenegro dont call themselves "Serbs", they refer to themselves as "Montenegrins". Which infact is a Serb ? or not a Serb ?

Why dont you tell me ben ?

:D
Whatever you say, without going into too much detail, all I will say is my relatives claim to be Serbs living in Montenegro and as a result their municipality (Berane) has been the poorest (for a long time) of any in all of SCG. Why? Because Milo only gives money to those which say to be anything but Serbs, while those that claim otherwise are left with next to nothing...So you go on telling those people they are useless, not needed, a thorn in Serbia's back etc. and see for yourself the reactions you'll get.
 
....and see for yourself the reactions you'll get.
Oh, that one is easy to guess: pašče.

Srbija ne treba da prisiljava Crnu Goru na referendum. Iskustvo nas je valjda naucilo da nikoga ninasta ne treba da prisiljavamo, ma kako namere bile plemenite. Referendum je predvidjen Beogradskim sporazumom i kada se 3 godine od pocetka tog sporazuma navrsi, u Crnoj Gori ce biti raspisan referendum o samostalnosti. Do tada, Srbija treba da uradi da pokaze da zajednicka drzava pravi mnogo vise smisla ne go dve odvojene drzave i ekonomski, i sa stanovisat odbrane, i sa stanovista okruzenja, i kulturno, i istorijski. A za to je potrebno da se u Srbiji jednom i zauvek okoncaju seseljijade, arkanijade, dogadjanja naroda, nebesnjacke histerije, anti-zapadnjastvo, anti-modernizam i pravoslavni fundamentalizam koji su svi skupa ucinili da se ljudi klone Srbije i Srba, i da ako vec ne mogu da popbegnu iz zemlje, pobegnu od srpskog porekla i zagrljaja. Srbija je na dobrom putu da se to vise ne ponovi, a oni koji su se pokolebali pocece ponovo da blagonaklono gledaju na Srbiju i Srbe, pogotovo ako Srbija pocne ekonomski da prosperira, modernizuje se, okrene Zapadu i da bude tolerantna etnicki i politicki. U toj konkurenciji Milova politicka opcija gubi.
 
I just hope this problem can be resolved soon and peacefully of course.
We are all the same people, just living in a different land, so, what's the big deal.
Montenegrins are simply Serbs who escaped from the Turkish rule in Serbia and fled to the 'black mountains'. That is Montenegro, for people to be forgetting about their background because some idiot nowdays is telling them otherwise is very sad.
I think if Montenegro were to go, than it would be horrible, think about the future, soon Vojvodina would go too as they would claim to be 'Vojvodinians' :rolleyes:
This bullshit needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.
 
Reading some of those posts has been very interesting and I really respect Ben's and some other posters opinions here, but to make a point Vojvodina was never Serbia's before 1918(it was Croatian-Hungarian) but due to huge population changes(Serbs escaping Kosovo from Turkish onslaught and moving to Srijem-Backa-Banat) Serbs gained a majority and as soon as the union of Serbs-Croaians and Slovenians was established Serbs took control of "Vojvodina-named after Vojvoda Arsenije Crnojevic if I am correct? ) Just as Serbia took Boka Kotorska which had a 95% Croatian Catholic population back before the first juga and now has less than 5% Croatian population. Croatians and Crno Gorci have a lot of common history believe it or not but just as Vojvodina is now Serbia's and will stay that way Crna Gora will share the same fate because I believe today the majority(not all naturally) of Montenegrins are Serbians and will want to remain with Serbia, but there are a few who have remained what they were. Let the bashing begin :wallbang: ;) but I have stated what I think is true to the core.
 
Boka did not have a 95% Catholic, even less Croatian population. As for Vojvodina, Slavs actually settled there before Hungarians (in fact according to a growing shift among historians and archeologists the Danube basin is where Slavs began) and there were Serbs present in Srem since the middle ages. Arsenije Carnojevic was not a duke (vojvoda) but a patriarch of the Serbian church in the 17th century. Btw it's not "Crno Gorci" but "Crnogorci". The "common history" of Montenegro and Croatia you speak of is not great at all, as Montenegro always was a Serbian state and had very little to do with Croatia, bar some crazy Montenegrin Ustase (Sekula Drljevic) and their "Red Croatia" fairy tales.
 
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