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NFSBiH, entity savez (FSRS) and clubs (Sarajevo, Borac) now discussing a PL with 10-12 clubs. Don't think we've ever been this close to an agreement but we will see in the next couple of months.
 
Opet prazne price, if you ask me. But we shall see.
 
I would honestly be disappointed if they went with 12 instead of 10, which is what I'm worried will happen. HNL has 10 and that's plenty for it, and HNL is far ahead of us in terms of investment, infrastructure, etc. Borac, Celik, Olimpic, Sarajevo, Sloboda, Siroki, Velez, Zrinjski, Zeljo, and then one more for relegation fodder. Then a unified 2nd division with another 10 clubs, and then two entity-based 3rd divisions with another 10. It'd be miles better for our football, and honestly for the entity FAs too.
 
A unified 2nd division with 10 clubs would be an awesome idea but we both know that won't happen. Not in a million years. Croatia has many advantages over us, for one it's not an ethnically divided country. Croatia has a unified FA, unified leaders, we don't. Whatever we chose to do, we have to have the approval of the FA from RS and the Croats from Hercegovina.
 
I know this is almost certainly a minority opinion here, but the reduction of the BiH top flight to 10-12 clubs is not something that I think is healthy. Similar moves have all but killed premier league football in Croatia and Scotland (which is why the HNL was re-expanded to 16 teams, though it has since contracted again).

Teams playing each other a minimum of four times a season is dull beyond imagination, both for the fans and the television companies. It also reduces the number of players with exposure to top-level soccer. There are so many other things which could be done to improve Bosnia's standing in the game.
 
Monte, I don't think that cutting down the league was what killed the Croatian and Scottish leagues. Truthfully, how many Croatian clubs think they even have a chance at winning the title while the league is so one-sided; I think Dinamo is close to winning its 10th consecutive title.
 
The argument that playing a minimum of 4 times against a club in a single season is boring and bad for the fans and tv revenues is very accurate. That is one of the downsides with reducing the number of clubs. The league is very boring as it is, it could get even more boring if you reduce the number of clubs. I'm not even sure the quality of the football would increase.
 
The quality of football would definitely increase because the talent would be less diluted and the best players would be playing in the BiHPL rather than in the lower divisions.

Serbia is introducing a reform whereby the top flight division would feature 10 clubs, with the second division having 10 clubs and the third division having 12 clubs. Below that there would be lower regional leagues. The entire reform is based on the Swiss system and is basically a copy of that system.

Romania is also decreasing its number of clubs from 18 to 14 next season.

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But you guys can afford a reduction of the number of clubs, that's the thing.
 
I'm surprised to hear that the Croatian league has suffered. It's been incredibly one-sided for a long time, but that's because Dinamo has dwarfed everyone else in terms of money and influence in their FA. Now Rijeka is threatening to challenge that chokehold and I wouldn't be surprised to see them nick a title from the Purgeri in the coming season or two, mostly because they seem to be set up far more professionally as a club. Hajduk has been the big loser in all this, but they still have the name, history, and fan base, so that makes three "top" clubs in a league of ten.

I don't think a reduced BiH league would be any more boring either. With 10 clubs you'd have a season of 36 games. We currently have 30, along with one of the longest winter breaks in Europe. You'd basically just be adding a game or two on each side while switching fixtures with Travnik and Vitez for ones with Zeljo and Celik. Sounds good to me.

It means you have the ressources to do that and, more importantly, the backing of a unified state. We don't.
Jesi dosadan u pm :palm:
 
Like it or not it's a proven fact that we are disadvantaged compared to our neighbours when it comes to football decisions and reforms being voted. It's not an excuse, it's a fact. How can i be "dosadan" for pointing that out??
 
It's a decision that would benefit clubs from both entities, so there is no reason for either of them to block the decision.
Perhaps but do you really think that clubs from RS will want to participate in a unified 2nd division like Monte suggested? A first division with 10 or 12 clubs is foreseable but you can expect a lot of average clubs to vote against it because ultimately the goal of some of those clubs is to be able to qualify for European competitions, not to play in a seperate 2nd division. Also the argument that it would be boring becuase you would face an opponent several times in a season is accurate. Imagine 4 Sarajevo derbies with the quality of football that's being presented year after year in those games. If I was a football figure in BIH I might say thanks but no thanks to that idea.
 
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