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Do you think this small chaos has setlled in now that Valdano has come to our house? I know that there are some players that wont accept not being in the starting 11 but iam thinking about the others....For example Macca and Guti and dont forget about Savio..

I dont think anyone is transfer listed but if a good offer came up :eek:

I also hope Hierros return has strenghtened us, he is after all the TRUE captain of this club (Redondo included) and will surely bring up morale.

I would have to rate our morale (from our point of view we cant possibly see whats going on :) ) as "OK"....
And for you truing to understand that one better i'll say that for example Barcas morale should be "Very good but unstable".

I hope that we wont crawk around on the floor as we did under Toshack last year :(. Lets just get a good start and we wont need any miracle form in the seasons ending.

And dont forget, less then a monthaway to THE MATCH!
 
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Personally, I think morale, when it comes to professional football players, is overrated. In fact, I don't even think it matters much. Honestly, so what if morale is low (if it is that)?

I mean sure, if you're a school football team, or even a small second division side, then maybe not getting along with each other is a real problem.

But when you're a pro playing for Real Madrid, you have too much a stake to allow problems off the field to affect your play on it.

The only thing it means is that the player wants to leave the club (if he can). But on the field, it will not affect their play. After all, if you want to leave your team, what better way than playing well?
 
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R&Bfan said:
I hope that we wont crawk around on the floor as we did under Toshack last year :(. Lets just get a good start and we wont need any miracle form in the seasons ending.

And dont forget, less then a monthaway to THE MATCH!
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Don't worry, Were off to a great start! Undefeated in the first 7 games!:happy: (chl matches included)
And what did you mean By "THE MATCH"??:confused:
 
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I agree w/ Labas and the problem w/ seedorf. As long as we can keep on improving from match to match and getting all the points we can than we can rule out frustration which can be a fuse to looker room explosives
 
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Can somebody please tell the guy what match iam talking about on 22nd October :rolleyes:

And Morale being not important thats just complete bullshjt!
Why do you think Man U are as good as they are? Cause they have Beckham???Cause they have the overrated Giggs or that "brilliant" center midfield with Scholes and Keane??
The reason is that they know eachother well and get along!Thats why England SUCK when these players dont play in ManU!

Another example is the way the CLub world cup lifted our spirits. We didnt win but didnt have much pressure either. and then we started gaining on people when we were at a position as 12th in the table!
 
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R&Bfan said:
Can somebody please tell the guy what match iam talking about on 22nd October :rolleyes:



Which one of us dosent know what 22/10 means?? Real & Figo return to the Nou Camp.

this will be a very memorable game, I wouldnt be surprised
if Figo didnt make the squad, for his health. :(

This is rightup there with X-mas!
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I partially agree with MAD Fan. It's one thing the team morale with a school football team and a completely different one with teams like Real Madrid. It's very hard (if not impossible) for 'multinational' teams filled with stars for the locker rooms to have the unanimity that small teams share. They cannot all be friends, or have a 'team spirit' in such degree as we have all experienced playing in teams ourselves. Still, they are exceptionally skilled and higly professional to 'do their job' when it comes to their performance.

Of course the example that you have stated here is an extreme one! If players are not even on speaking terms with one another or even worse, are 'enemies' then something is wrong, very wrong and it reflects on the team's performance all right. The same goes when the players' relation is bad with the coach (see the Barca - van Gaal example).

The example of Manchester United is also a mystery for me. I've read some statements of former ManU players that are describing Sir Alex no less than a tyrant. I don't believe that they share the locker room unanimity that you're describing here. In between the resentment for Roy Keane's exaggerated pay raise and David Beckham latest scandals, the nagging of 'underpaid' stars like Ryan Giggs and the nagging of the british press, I really think they play well because they have Beckham and co, who are too good for the British isles. I don't think they are any different from any other European mega-team, except for the fact that the vast majority of them are English speaking.
 
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Hala, you are correc, but then again, who expects these guys to all love each other??? There are obviously small groups in the squad, of guys who like each other more and less. For instance Spaniards keep topgether, while last season a lot of the Frenchies held together too(Anelka, Karembeu, Geremi, Baljic, McManaman - all of them are almost gone!:(). The thing is for the team not to fight, like Barca, like Seedorf. As long as we win, the atmosphere will be good, the problems with mltinational teams is, when you start losing, the spirit drops, blaming starts and so on...BUT if Valdano can have honest talks, a lt of this will be eliminated.
 
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I guess I have to qualify my answer a little:

Morale should not be important. It's just that some players choose to let how they feel affect how they play.

Seedorf is a good example. When he was fighting with Mija and Hierro, he allowed it to ruin his game when it didn't have to. Did it affect Hierro? Not at all, he went on to be Defender of the the Year. If it affected Pedja, we can't really tell, but I like to think not.

Hala is correct. There is no toplevel team where everyone gets along. When I said that morale doesn't affect top teams the same way as a school side, that works both ways. A top team will never have that same unity as say, my high school side where we all felt we were brothers, we did everything together, and that certainly elevated our play on the pitch.

Ultimately, I guess, it's when a player decides to be a whining "primadonna" that morale becomes an issue. But with the possible exception of the Spanish national team, I think that most players can (and should) get past individual problems and play well on the field.
 
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well with the players now getting it on in the field and valdano also saying that his peime attention will go to the atmosphere in the dressing room and players behaviour.i think this is an area less to br worried of.
 
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Not necessarily Anelka. Morale will be importan, when we start losing(God forbid!). Then the team will be tested, the stronger the feel of unity and friendship, the quicker we'll be back on good form. But this topic is indeed quite strange in such a time of peace and prosperity:D Explain yourself R&B!:D
 
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Well the answer is easy :)
I was wondering how the team wqs doing on the team spirit department after we had a certain Pirri revealing dicuments and players being not wanted here :)

But most are you seem to be without worries, thats good but isnt a little concern good for a team :happy:
 
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Well, that still hasn't been resolved, now has it?:( I mean if I had to list players, who look unsafe to me still now, this is it:
McManaman - no explanation needed
Salgado - so far he's playing, because Geremi isn't here, but he's been uninspired, and I am far from certain
Savio - trust no one:mad:
Guti - almost home and dry, but what if DB gets fired?:eek:
 
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NO WAY!!!! I COULDN'T STAND ANOTHER COACH FIRED!!!!:mad::mad: Although I don't agree with the players that DB is playing(macca should be in the starting line-up) But how many coaches have we fired in the last few years now? At least 5 if i'm correct!:eek:

[Edited by raulG on 25-09-2000 at 20:11]
 
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Not any more, it seems that people are getting fired for sneezing at the wrong time. It is sad but true and let us not forget that Del Bosque is only on a short term contract at the moment.

As for the team morale I think that matters little as I think that a good morale is becoming a thing of the past as players swap leagues a lot.
 
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