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Torino

I would like to know how many people here support Il Grande Torino?

I know two die-hard Torino fans and if we can get more people here, maybe we can suggest for a Torino forum.

So all the Granata in here, make yourselves heard!!!

Obviously i'm in!!!:)

FORZA TORO!!!!
 
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Yep, I too stand to be counted!
Those are hard times for those in Claret colours, but nonetheless we don't keep heads down!

I hope many others answer to the call, to join and discuss, and who knows, to construct.

FORZA TORO SEMPRE!
Lorena -stands for Yuumei in Japanese
 
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It's maybe not the best of times, as I said, but nevertheless Clarets is the kind of people 'che si piega, ma non si spezza'
 
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Hello everybody.
I'm from Torino, and naturally I'm a TORO Fans.

The team now is not good, we have many society problems, a patron who won't spend money for buy players, and many others things that I wont write because I risk to break the forum rules at the first post.

Ciao,
Rick
 
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ciao Rick! :) tanto tempo eh :)
Toro's passing through a dark spot, so we have to say that, however it's the way of saying it, not the fact itself the rulebreaking matter!

I gotta get back to post at rec.sport.soccer, almeno per far sapere altri di questo sito qua e fare una community. Non avevo osato farlo in newsgroup, cmq. penso che serve inviare un referral in lista.

Cari saluti e benvenuto -peró sei neo quanto me! :)
Lorena
 
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Benvenuti Rick e Lorena!:happy:
Speriamo che anche gli altri verrano fra poco!:)

Welcome to both of you and it's a great pleasure to have you here. We do need badly knowledgeable and passionate people and few people can challenge Lorena on that issue, as far as your VAST football knowledge is concerned.

As to Torino, do not worry!!!!They will sooner or later resurface as an Italian and European giant, so be patient and watch out....;)

FORZA TORO!:)
 
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As Toro is concerned, my knowledge is fairly poor... I say that nobody can challenge Rick, who is an in-site supporter and also knows Piedmontese! :howler:

Let us hope, Payman, thank you... anyway current facts force us to let in a 'maybe'...

FTS!
Lorena
 
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Dear San_Siro_1, whoever is in full possession of his/her mental capabilities, uses to think with his/her mind, is honest, has guts and plays fair MUST be a fan of Toro.
As I am, present (bad) situation notwithstanding :groan:
We like winning - quite naturally - but we don't care that much: the only thing we ask - actually we DEMAND - to our players is to fight until the end, never give up, never surrender, like real Bulls. Unlike the sorry lot of players we happen to have now.
Nice meeting you guys.

Pietro Micca
 
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Welcome Pietro :) as you say, we value heart and courage, and this season we've seen less and less of both. Not a matter of players, since they're pretty much the same of... let me think... 3 seasons to this day? 'tis a matter from ABOVE...

I hope more sincere-hearted Granata will keep on coming in in the following days (seventh greater supporter structure in Italy, at least in the records) even if current events discourage many...

FTS!
Lorena
 
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I'm not a Torino fan, but I want to ask this: how do you people feel about Camolese leaving and Ulivieri joining?

I must say that I considered Camolese a very good coach who would eventually turn things around... But Mazzola and la societa' let him down in the transfer market... There was no point bringing in players like Conticchio and Magallanes while loaning out PINGA again! :rolleyes: Moreover, you needed a new striker... Ferrante is getting old and Lucarelli hasn't been on fire for a good while now... Franco has dissapeared and I don't think either Magallanes or Osmanovski are reliable solutions... Mazzola surely could see the situation but he did nothing in the mercato... Camolese was not to blame for the mess.
 
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Greetings Amoroso :)
Your question is complex. As far as I know -I'm not Italian- Granata fans are still quite divided over the subject, but there was a sense in the air that cimminelli was going to cut Camolese -he was brave enough to field last year a couple of players the patron hates- at the first avaliable occasion. ciminelli has less to spend that what he bragged about when he took posession of Toro, sadly no one with better financial situation wants to get involved.

I believe the less guilty in this disaster is Mazzola, for the simple reason he's trying to make a market with practically no euros -anyway he's faulty at this too... how come chievo last season or modena this one make better line-ups with equal economic restrictions?- As for Pinga, I find he's quite variable: one day a champ, other a tramp... we need people with heart, not only talent. Ok, Cristiano and Marco are old, we all see that! but what can you do if you've got to pick players at zero parameter? (and if you haven't got a network of collaborators that works, 'cos that's the truth, Mazzola works, not only but 99%, with Inter)

Again, that's my view of the problem. As I'm a fan from a distant country, I might have sensed humours wrong.

FORZA TORO SEMPRE!
Lorena
 
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Lucarelli is not old, just out of form. And he needs a partner to feed him, not another goalscorer next to him like Ferrante. Mazzola realised that but he just opted to bring in the ineffective Magallanes... I mean, Pinga might not be the most consistent player but he is better than Magallanes... And let's not go into the moronic mess with Asta and Maspero which is purely Mazzola's fault. First they do not renew Asta's contract (by far your best player last season) because he asked to be top earner of the club, then when Maspero asks for new contract they tell him to sod off only to sign him three months of no-training later...

It is just that, Mazzola brought in average players and lost Asta. Conticchio and Magallanes wont help much and Balzaretti, while talented, is just not as good as Asta... yet. And not as influential either.
 
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Welcome guys :).

Being a Juve fan from outside Italy I'm only in for rivalry and not the hatred with regards to Toro. Further- serie A needs the grandeur you bring historically and Turin needs the derby.

That sad- that banner was out of line- way out of line. Shame on those morons :fero: .

Ciao.
 
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Glen said:
Really?

Try this then:

"Due anni fa' tocco' ad Eduardo,
ora tocca a te' ,vecchio bastardo"

Ciao.
Click to expand...
By the precision was "only"

"Due anni fa Edoardo, ora tocca al vecchio bastardo".

But after the Juve's banner "juventus augusta taOurinorum", in Curva Maratona we had exposed "I Gobbi e il latino: la vostra ignoranza è la nostra forza"...

Ciao,
Rick
 
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Been talking about that in a newsgroup, Glen... I completely agree, there's always the disgraceful one that writes this out-of-mind messages... but then, some still get off with Superga...

And Rick is right... I've got a pic in which, late 1950's, in a Juve training camp, a welcoming banner reads FORSA JUVE...

Amoroso, I didn't say Mazzola was aloft of any guilt. I said he appears to me as the less guilty. Anyway his path has been somewhat erratic -said that when he first came - He's been twice with Inter in a complessive 12 year round, at Genoa he didn't last a year, at Cagliari months. He lacks the experience of a sports manager for low-budget clubs.

I'm worried that in another team Lucarelli would play at the top of his efforts. I fear it! he's maybe not so old, but it seems to me a life since he came -sigh- But again, the mess is too big to even get the nose in it. Asta is at Palermo, I believe he might return (after seeing so many returns...) and you are right, Amoroso, about the market. When Maspero came, I wasn't so sure he'd be useful as he's been since. Magallanes is a good striker, seen him with Uruguay a lot, but if you've got a demoralised team, even an average player plays crap. If you don't have products of the youth ranks, things worsen. How much it is that the same players have been around? Add that to the erratic market policy and you've got crisis. The crisis in the field just mirrors the crisis within the club.

FTS!
Lorena
 
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Yuumei,
As per number of fans in Italy Toro is not 7th but 6th (after XXXXntus, Milan, Inter, Roma and Lazio).
It has been estimated that Toro has some 1,000,000 fans. And Toro's fans are by no means 'lukewarm' supporters: they're all HARDCORE fans.
On Camolese, I think that at least 75/80% of Granata fans are still with him. He is a real Granata, he's been in the Club since his childhood, even though he never played in the first team because (his words) he wasn't good enough. Anyway, he has breathed the Filadelfia air, and knows what it means to be part of Toro.
Something that our present players, who were organizing their evening in Milan's more renowned Night Clubs after havig lost 6-0, have no idea of.
A Toro player must be hungry, strong and brave on the verge of wildness.
We have a bunch of sissies, well fed (especially Lucarelli), well paid and with no guts.
We should search in Africa, South America, or even Asia, Australia, Venus or Mars...but we must find hungry players, worthy of Toro's character and history.
Let' hope that, at least, Franco Ramalla recovers ASAP.
Tot siens.

Pietro Micca
 
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