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· Rei Brasileiro
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This is a good video of a player who does this, and a player who does not do this...


Any other players who have such great balance and are masters of Anti-diving?



I konw of other examples such as R9 who would go through anything in his prime..
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I can count about 7 times when Neymar/Buskets/Cristiano would have dove in this play in particular
 
brilliant comparison video :D

but yeah, you got to admire Messi for playing the game like a footballer and staying/getting back on his feet when possible and trying to play the situation through without waiting for referee favours. I wish other players would do this...and yet some people still call him a diver.
 
Zanetti tries to stay on his feet as well. It's annoying as **** since it means that he gets awarded less freekicks than he should. But scolding him for opting to not be a diving **** seems wrong somehow.
 
So then he only does it sometimes. Thank you.
I think I've seen him exaggerate a contact a few times...not sure if I've ever see him properly diving out of thin air like Neymar does. Has Messi ever even been yellow carded for diving in his career?

Those videos you posted are really bad though...in the first one he is grabbed by the sleeve and goes down. In the second one the two occasions he might be "diving" don't show good camera angles but there seems to be a contact both times. Seems like the guy who made the vid was really desperate for something at least...he could get better examples from Di Maria or CR7 every match.
 
So then he only does it sometimes. Thank you.
By today's standards, his exaggerated falls are a complete non-issue. It's occasional, half-hearted and kinda crap and not fooling many.

Another player that I initially admired for not going to ground easily was Kaka. Then something turned in him and he just started to fall at every opportunity he got. Very weird.
 
brilliant comparison video :D

but yeah, you got to admire Messi for playing the game like a footballer and staying/getting back on his feet when possible and trying to play the situation through without waiting for referee favours. I wish other players would do this...and yet some people still call him a diver.
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Gotta love and admire Messi even more for his stance against the easier option to dive.
 
Zlatan is pretty good and staying on his feet and instead yelliing at whoever tackled him. Of course he is big and really strong, so that helps. Pato in his last two seasons for us really fell down at the slighest touch.
 
Moussa Dembele

Mother****er is like a freight train. You need to cut his legs to make him fall.
 
So then he only does it sometimes. Thank you.
Well Messi does dive at times but that does not make him a diver(name me one player who has not, especially someone from Argentina and Spainish League I will give you a free go at cules without deleting your post!), and he is the worst diver I have seen, and when he tries to playact, he is absolutely horrible hence he almost everytime gets a yellow when he tries.

But the difference is most of the times, especially near the penalty when he has ample chances to dive but he does not. And you see very few players doing that and Messi is one of those who will take diving as the last option and if you cannot see that, than you are being blind. And I think this is thread is about that isnt it?


And about the Messi does not dive video, well it is not OP's fault that the video presenting the thread theme is named "he does not dive", ofcourse he does but the difference is almost 95% of the time he opts to stay on his feet even when a simple dive or play act can get his team a freekick. And that is what this thread is about.

An occassional fluke header from Xavi will not make a danger in corner situations, similarly an occassional dive from Messi will not make him a diver or playactor. Considering most of the time he rides the tackles.
 
Raul, Redondo..

If you dive sometimes, you're a diver. The players above are players with integrity.
Redondo, I wont comment since I rarely saw him play, although elbowing around is not about being a person with integrity. And Raul? You dont need to go further just google Raul's dive vs Bilbao in google. Ofcourse that does not mean Raul is a diver or playactor, but he dove and since for you anyone who has dive is a diver, so yes Raul is a diver.
 
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