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He is the most prolific young striker in Seria A together with Adriano and Cassano (he is undeperforming this year and has a gigantic ego) and he is only in his first season in the league, he came to Juventus on the last day of transfer line, so he had litlle time to acllimate to the new squad and he is already our best passer and striker in the league.He is also undoubtly the best dribller in the league.
And for the end, look at his goal against Breda.
http://www.ibkornar.se/zlatan/Zlatan.wmv


What do you think of him?



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Born
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Malmö (Sweden)

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Forward

Height
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Weight
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Season Team Cat Championship
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1998/99 Malmö FF A 6 1

1999/00 Malmö FF A 26 12

2000/01 Malmö FF A 8 3

2001/02 Ajax A 27 6

2002/03 Ajax A 25 13

2003/04 Ajax A 22 13

2004/05 Ajax A 3 3
 

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whahahahahaha, don't get me wrong i like Zlatan a lot but he is nowhere near van Basten. Let's see him score more that 13 goals a season for a couple of years in a row first.
 

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Not yet, but if he's not too hardheaded to learn, he will become one of the best.
 

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Come on dude, i am not big follower of Juventus .But, Camoranesi is way better technically and more skillful than Zaltan.
 

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Soccer Band said:
Come on dude, i am not big follower of Juventus .But, Camoranesi is way better technically and more skillful than Zaltan.
Yeah and it shows that you dont follow juve. Zlatan is the best dribbler in juve in a long time.
 

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Soccer Band said:
Come on dude, i am not big follower of Juventus .But, Camoranesi is way better technically and more skillful than Zaltan.
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Zlatan is a great player. Certainly has the potential to be in Van basten class. But have to score more goals and perform more in the big games.
The attached goal in the first post reminds me of the close control Van Basten had. Once saw Van basten dribble 3 players in a very tight area inside the penalty box with his superb close control. Zlatan certainly have that kind of close control.

At least he is not as bad as the other pretender to be the next Van basten. I mean Ruud Van Nistelrooy. They compare him with Van basten, but he only can score loads of tap in goals. Zlatan otherwise always have the capability of scoring Van BAsten type of goals....
 

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Van Basten had the game outside, Speed and also Inside he was deadly with both feet and brilliant with his head

Zlatan is great outside but he is more a long version of a second striker maybe, Because he hasn't got anywhere near the killer instinct that you would think he has when you first see him.


So no Van Basten but still a class talent that will do well under Capello
 

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Faisal said:
Van Basten had the game outside, Speed and also Inside he was deadly with both feet and brilliant with his head

Zlatan is great outside but he is more a long version of a second striker maybe, Because he hasn't got anywhere near the killer instinct that you would think he has when you first see him.


So no Van Basten but still a class talent that will do well under Capello
Yes Faisal, i agree their overall game maybe different. But what i want to point out is Zlatan have great technical ability to be like Van Basten. I mean Van Basten can score volleys from difficult angle, score with bicycle kick annd etc which requires a very high technical skills. I mean Zlatan have that kind of technical skills to score that kind of goals.
 

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Zlatan is great but I think Lucho Gonzalez fits the description more than him and Torres as the media always compare those 2 to Marco. People talk about how great Tevez, Mascherano etc are in Argentina but the classiest guy I've seen in that country in a while is Lucho, he is a 'in the area' phenom.
 

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What a loss for the Bosnian National Team. In 1999, the Bosnian Football Federation rejected him!
 

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DJ Bungi said:
What a loss for the Bosnian National Team. In 1999, the Bosnian Football Federation rejected him!
I thought he was of Croatian heratige?

Zlatan is pretty much a complete player he has the strength, vision, and dribbling skills to match the worlds best but I think he lacks on the speed. Zlatan is not a prolific goal scorer by any means but he can score he is more of a 'team player' or a better way it put it he is basically a target player because of his strength where as for example Valeri Bojinov relies more on his speed and dribbling skills. Was Zlatan Ibrahimovic actually called the new 'Van Basten' or are you in fact implying that he has the potential to become the new 'Van Basten' A lot of players a called the new 'Zidane' , the new 'Maradona' but actually never are.
 

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I thought he was of Croatian heratige?
I have heard this many times but he is 100% Bosnian. Both of his parents are from Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Info on him: http://www.playerhistory.com/soccerplayer_statistics.asp?PLAYID=1083

Here's an interview from last year for the most popular Bosnian sports magazine:

http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=4513&z=15&isasp=

Iako Vas Hrvati uporno svojataju, a Švedska čuva kao najveće nacionalno blago, koliko je realno da jednog dana zaigrate za BiH?

Even though Croats are constantly saying you are one of them and Sweden is treating you like national treasure, how realistic is it that one day you will play for the Bosnian national team?

- Čuo sam da se Hrvati zanimaju za mene. Ja imam švedski pasoš. Bosansku krv. Svjestan sam da me iz Švedske ne bi pustili, ali ako bih mogao birati, sigurno bih zaigrao za BiH.

- I have heard that Croats are interested in me. I have Swedish passport. Bosnian blood. I realize that Sweden will never let me go, but if I could choose, I am sure I would play for Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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Bosnian National Team has lost so many great players due to war/ethnic divisions:

Sweden:

01. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus)

02. Bojan Djordjic (Manchester United)

Serbia-Montenegro:

03. Savo Milosevic (Osasuna)

04. Mladen Krstajic (Bremen)

05. Miroslav Stevic (Bochum)

06. Goran Tvrtkovic (Not sure where he plays now, played for Zeljeznicar 02-03)

Croatia:

07. Mario Stanic (Chelsea) - retired this summer

08. Drazen Ladic (played in WC 1998) - retired

09. Davor Suker (played in WC 1998) - retired

10. Vladimir Vasilj (Varteks)

11. Ivan Klasnic (Bremen)

12. Igor Biscan (Liverpool)

13. Niko Kovac (Hertha Berlin)

14. Robert Kovac (Bayern Munich)

15. Dario Simic (AC Milan)

16. Stjepan Tomas (Fenerbahce)

17. Dado Prso (Rangers)

18. Bosko Balaban (Club Brugge)

19. Filip Tapalovic (Bochum)

20. Mato Neretljak (Hajduk Split)

Slovenia:

21. Ermin Siljak (Servette Genève)

22. Amir Karic (Torpedo Moscow)

23. Muamer Vugdalic (Shakhtar)

Austria:

24. Alen Orman (Hibernian Edinburgh)

25. Bozo Kovacevic (SV Pasching)


and we are in danger of losing these players:

Germany:

01. Mustafa Kucukovic (Hamburg SV)

02. Anel Dzaka (Leverkusen)

Slovenia:

03. Sandro Bloudek (AC Milan)

Holland:

04. Admir Haznadar (PSV)

Croatia:

05. Asim Sehic (Pula)

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We are probably the most under-rated footballing nation in the world, but it's okay, our time will come.
 

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Dj Bungi, I can't believe the list that you just made up. I'm only going to comment on the Croatian players:
Dario Simic - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Davor Suker - birth place:Osijek (Croatia)
Dado Prso - birth place:Zadar (Croatia)
Igor Biscan - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Bosko Balaban -birth place:Rijeka (Croatia)
Drazen Ladic - birth place:Cakovec (Croatia)
Vladimir Vasilj - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Ivan Klasnic - birth place:Hamburg (Germany)
Rober Kovac - birth place:Berlin (Germany)
Niko Kovac - birth place:Berlin (Germany)
Filip Tapalovic - birth place:Gelsenkirchen (Germany)

Last 4 players were born in Germany, but their parents are Croatian and they chose to play for Croatia. I'm not going to explain the history of the 2 former Yugoslavia's (not counting the last which was just Serbia and Montenegro, as it is called now), or even go further in history to explain that Croats lived and still live in the region which is Bosnia and Hercegovina now. It's a fact that in 1991. there were 755.890 Croats in BiH which was 17,3% of the total population.
Some of the players which were born in Croatia or Germany had parents that were born or lived in BiH but they were still Croatian and it's completely logical that these players play for Croatia.
Three players that are not in this list and they are in yours are:Mario Stanic, Stjepan Tomas and Mato Neretljak. They were born in BiH, but they're parents were Croatian, so that's that.
People please don't listen to this guy, he will probably start a lecture about nationality and religion of people in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I think it's obvious why these players play for Croatia.
I think this guy would claim that Ronaldinho and Henry should play in the BiH team because they ate a burek while they were passing through Sarajevo once.
And btw Ibrahimovic's mother is Croatian, but I'm not claiming that he should play for Croatia.
Now I see the most stupid part of your post:

"Bosnian National Team has lost so many great players due to war/ethnic divisions"

If there wasn't an ethnic division, all of the player would be playing for Yugoslavia, because the BiH or The Croatian NT wouldn't exist. I'm not going to talk about the war because this is not the place for it, but the war also played a part in the players choice of the NT - these players were Croatian and they wanted to play for their country to prove their patriotism.
 

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inzinjerac said:
Dj Bungi, I can't believe the list that you just made up. I'm only going to comment on the Croatian players:
Dario Simic - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Davor Suker - birth place:Osijek (Croatia)
Dado Prso - birth place:Zadar (Croatia)
Igor Biscan - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Bosko Balaban -birth place:Rijeka (Croatia)
Drazen Ladic - birth place:Cakovec (Croatia)
Vladimir Vasilj - birth place:Zagreb (Croatia)
Ivan Klasnic - birth place:Hamburg (Germany)
Rober Kovac - birth place:Berlin (Germany)
Niko Kovac - birth place:Berlin (Germany)
Filip Tapalovic - birth place:Gelsenkirchen (Germany)

Last 4 players were born in Germany, but their parents are Croatian and they chose to play for Croatia. I'm not going to explain the history of the 2 former Yugoslavia's (not counting the last which was just Serbia and Montenegro, as it is called now), or even go further in history to explain that Croats lived and still live in the region which is Bosnia and Hercegovina now. It's a fact that in 1991. there were 755.890 Croats in BiH which was 17,3% of the total population.
Some of the players which were born in Croatia or Germany had parents that were born or lived in BiH but they were still Croatian and it's completely logical that these players play for Croatia.
Three players that are not in this list and they are in yours are:Mario Stanic, Stjepan Tomas and Mato Neretljak. They were born in BiH, but they're parents were Croatian, so that's that.
People please don't listen to this guy, he will probably start a lecture about nationality and religion of people in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and I think it's obvious why these players play for Croatia.
I think this guy would claim that Ronaldinho and Henry should play in the BiH team because they ate a burek while they were passing through Sarajevo once.
And btw Ibrahimovic's mother is Croatian, but I'm not claiming that he should play for Croatia.
Now I see the most stupid part of your post:

"Bosnian National Team has lost so many great players due to war/ethnic divisions"

If there wasn't an ethnic division, all of the player would be playing for Yugoslavia, because the BiH or The Croatian NT wouldn't exist. I'm not going to talk about the war because this is not the place for it, but the war also played a part in the players choice of the NT - these players were Croatian and they wanted to play for their country to prove their patriotism.
The birth places of the players are correct except one:

Vladimir Vasilj - Birth Place: Mostar (Bosnia-Herzegovina)

http://www.equipe.fr/Football/FootballFicheJoueur4931.html

So I guess they need to do a little more than eat a burek to be included in the list; what I am trying to tell you is I did not post the list without proof to my claims.

Prove yours that he was born in Zagreb?

Anyway, enough about birth places....what about their roots? The world knows that majority of your players are Bosnian (Catholics).

By your theory, Marko Anthony Viduka is Australian, not Croatian.

The guy responsible for all these Bosnians playing for the Croatian national team is Vlatko Marković, the president of Croatian Football Federation, who is Bosnian himself.

Miroslav "Ciro" Blazevic, Croatian coach during WC 1998, was Bosnian as well.

It's good to have us as your neighbors, isn't it?

Anyway, chill out dude. I am not trying to discredit Croatia when it comes to football talent. Croatia had plenty talented players long before these.

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And btw Ibrahimovic's mother is Croatian, but I'm not claiming that he should play for Croatia.
He absolutely has no Croatian heritage; he even said this himself. I do not understand how this rumour began.

His answer to this:

Iako Vas Hrvati uporno svojataju, a Švedska čuva kao najveće nacionalno blago, koliko je realno da jednog dana zaigrate za BiH?

Even though Croats are constantly saying you are one of them and Sweden is treating you like national treasure, how realistic is it that one day you will play for the Bosnian national team?

- Čuo sam da se Hrvati zanimaju za mene. Ja imam švedski pasoš. Bosansku krv. Svjestan sam da me iz Švedske ne bi pustili, ali ako bih mogao birati, sigurno bih zaigrao za BiH.

- I have heard that Croats are interested in me. I have Swedish passport. Bosnian blood. I realize that Sweden will never let me go, but if I could choose, I am sure I would play for Bosnia-Herzegovina.


Mother Julka is a Bosnian Catholic - from Bijeljina, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Father Šerif is a Bosnian Muslim - from Bijeljina, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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With your logic half of your national team should play for Turkey because there weren't any muslims in this region until the Turks occupied it, and they held it til 1875.
As for Vasilj I admit I made a mistake.
Marko Viduka is Croatian, his parents were from Croatia, but he was born in Australia and he chose to play for the Australian NT and you don't see me weeping about it.
What roots are you talking about?All these people declare themselves as Croats, even the ones that were born in BiH.
The Bosnians don't exists:you have Serbs, Croats and Muslims. Croatian players that were born in BiH could choose which team they wanted to play for: Croatian or the BiH NT. The Serb players that were born in BiH could choose between the Serbian and BIH NT. As for the muslims, they didn't have a choice.
If a man and a women who are Croatian, no matter where they're born, have a kid, the kid is Croatian even if he's born on Mars.
 
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