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What kind of representation is this in CL of English and Italian football when Inter and Arsenal take the field. Fifa and Uefa should put their foot down on this one, Arsenal have more french players starting then English ones and its not like there amazing world class players anyway.

There are no morals anymore in football no more culture on club sides, CL has become a sick joke and all these big clubs have been blinded by the color of money.
 

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Actually, 3 is a ridiculously low number of domestic players to have among a club's starters. Don't complain later when your NTs are forced to either field 2nd-rate players or import foreigners. Pretending that it's not a problem by blaming the EU is nothing but denial.
 

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Actually, 3 is a ridiculously low number of domestic players to have among a club's starters. Don't complain later when your NTs are forced to either field 2nd-rate players or import foreigners. Pretending that it's not a problem by blaming the EU is nothing but denial.
Valid point only if the clubs cared about the NT.

Clubs are about making money and creating their own glory not NT glory. So while it is noble to think that clubs should be helping the NT's develop the players, it is also ridiculous to put it on them.
 

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Of course, Barça; I don't blame the clubs. But the national federations should really treat this issue as a priority.
 

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As said though, the legal minefields stop the authorities doing anything anyway, the formation of the EU ruined European football :D
 

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Yeah, there's nothing the national federations can do. It would breach EU employment law so it's a no go.
 

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Of course, Barça; I don't blame the clubs. But the national federations should really treat this issue as a priority.
Agreed, but rather than push rules against the clubs, how about working with the youth leagues, creating local developmental schools, training the coaches, etc. Most federations do so little when it comes to that.

Having a son that has played both youth football in Spain and the USA, I can at least attest that the Spanish federations does a heck of a lot more in terms of preparing the player than the USA.
 

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The EU employment law aren't necessarily an airtight straitjacket, Rob. If you can't forbid anyone within the EU from signing anyone from within the EU, it should be possible to incentive teams to use more domestic players. Fiscal bonuses could be offered for clubs that consistently field a minimum of domestic players, or they could offer easier signing restrictions and schedules for domestic players (the league's transfer-window for natural-born citizens could be longer than the transfer window for foreigners). If income taxes over the players' earnings (wages + other financial bonuses) were smaller for domestic-born players than for foreigners, they should definitely make it easier to retain the services of domestic players. If the clubs only care about the bottom line, the solution is to make it advantageous for a club to have a minimum of domestic players.
 

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The EU employment law aren't necessarily an airtight straitjacket, Rob. If you can't forbid anyone within the EU from signing anyone from within the EU, it should be possible to incentive teams to use more domestic players. Fiscal bonuses could be offered for clubs that consistently field a minimum of domestic players, or they could offer easier signing restrictions and schedules for domestic players (the league's transfer-window for natural-born citizens could be longer than the transfer window for foreigners). If income taxes over the players' earnings (wages + other financial bonuses) were smaller for domestic-born players than for foreigners, they should definitely make it easier to retain the services of domestic players. If the clubs only care about the bottom line, the solution is to make it advantageous for a club to have a minimum of domestic players.
All the things you are suggesting are dangerously close if not directly violating the EU labour laws and the whole idea of EU itself and one of its main principles - the united labour market in the whole of EU.

Though on the 5plus6 idea, there was a report that said it can be implemented with some changes.
 

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Idk how well any of that would hold up if a Bosman type took it to court. Actually I'm pretty confident any rules of that nature would be swiftly overturned.
 

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I mean if you look at it strictly from an employment point of view, the best paying league is the premiership. Why should EU workers have less right to work there when they would have in any other industry?
 

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Arsenal have more french players starting then English ones and its not like there amazing world class players anyway.

There are no morals anymore in football no more culture on club sides, CL has become a sick joke and all these big clubs have been blinded by the color of money.
wot does that have to do with anything anyway?
if they were would it make you feel better?

well done for realising footballs short comings, your point is?

Facts are the foreign players enhance the english game, if the english players were good enough, foreign players would not be bought in the first place.
Or would be sold due to talented youth players coming through....

Maybe you should vent your frustration against clubs spending more than they generate?
 
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