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Given that Shaxtar Donets'k and Dynamo Kyiv will be representing YKPAIHA in the ECL next season the seeding arrangement dooms Dynamo Kyiv after lackluster performances in previous seasons.

Dynamo Kyiv's coefficient of 34.932 is not good enough to give them a seeded position in the 3rd Qualifying Round (if they make it that far.)

Of the known seeded 3rd Qualifying contenders thus far includes -
Liverpool, Arsenal, Juventus, Barcelona also the 3rd team in the Bundesliga

But also teams like Olympiakos, Panathaniakos, Fenerbache, Steaua Bucharest and prbly Celtic.

There is a good possibility that Dynamo could draw these teams and they would be underdogs to advance to the ECL Group Stage.

That might be a good thing for this club.
 

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Well the only chance for Dinamo to qualify for the cl is to draw with Basel or Anderlecht if they pass the second qualifying round.:rollani:

But wth will dinamo do in the cl?better not to qualify...uefa cup is better.:thumbsup:
 

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The previous campaigns for Dynamo in the ECL have yielded an embarrassing 2 draws and 10 LOSSES. They undoubtedly were worst team to qualify for the group stage in the last 2 seasons.

Hence, a major reassessment is needed by the club in what the strategy should be for the long term - not just for this upcoming season.

My recommendation should be to exit gracefully into the UEFA cup at the 3rd Qualifying round and get some valuable coefficents so that in the future the club is seeded going into ECL play.

In the last 2 seasons Dynamo hasn't even looked like making the UEFA cup by finishing 3rd in the Group Stage - So why waste your time and effort giving a false sense of accomplishment?

As to Shaxtar and the continual promises that Akhmetov spews out after each YKPAIHIAH season it is about time he realizes that his foreigners that he purchases never last a complete season after they also get bundled out of Europe. Although they will be seeded for the 3rd Qualifying Round, their continual choking in ECL Group competitions of going on further into the spring games (they did exit 2 seasons ago into the UEFA Cup and did show some pride) that the team core players need to be molded and play together more than just 1/2 a season. Turnover has to be stopped.
 

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Fedya the Cl format will change in 09/10....if Ukraine can at least be in 12th place in uefa rankings,ukrainian champion will qualify directly for the cl....the second place will find it very hard to qualify.
 

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Fedya the Cl format will change in 09/10....if Ukraine can at least be in 12th place in uefa rankings,ukrainian champion will qualify directly for the cl....the second place will find it very hard to qualify.
:confused: what happens to them?

btw I like the spelling of the thread title Fedya, lol, good one
 

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Let them wait until Aug.1 to find out the opponents, then go find necessary players in the next 6 days.

But Dynamo will need a squad ready for the UEFA Cup by that time. Without it, they won't see any UEFA Cup rounds and Ukraine's '08-09 coefficients will be all Shakhtar, divided by four.
 

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CHQ3 - I know what that is. But what is NCQ2? Is there 5 qualifying rounds now?
NCQ2 is 2nd placed in National Competition. For countries seeded 13-15 both the Champion and the 2nd place team will commence their European campaigns in the 2nd Qualifying Round.

There seems to be an additional qualifying round "Q0" known as Preliminary qualification for countries seeded 47-53.
 

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From '09-10 on, there will be 5 places reserved for champions of countries ranked 13-53 in the CL Group League - via qualifying rounds, of course.
There will be 22 places reserved for 15 teams from top 6 countries and champions from countries ranked 7-12.
The remaining 5 places in the CL Group League will be filled by two qualifying rounds. N3 of a country ranked 6 (currently Russia) and N2's of countries ranked 7-15 to meet first. The winning 5 teams will meet N4's of rank 1-3 (say, Liverpool/Atletico/Milan) and N3's of rank 4-5 (say, Marseille/Schalke). The 5 winners will be in GL.

Difference between the champions and the runners-up for rank 7-12 countries will become immense.

YKPAIHA might have seen two teams in GL for the last time.
 

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From '09-10 on, there will be 5 places reserved for champions of countries ranked 13-53 in the CL Group League - via qualifying rounds, of course.
There will be 22 places reserved for 15 teams from top 6 countries and champions from countries ranked 7-12.
The remaining 5 places in the CL Group League will be filled by two qualifying rounds. N3 of a country ranked 6 (currently Russia) and N2's of countries ranked 7-15 to meet first. The winning 5 teams will meet N4's of rank 1-3 (say, Liverpool/Atletico/Milan) and N3's of rank 4-5 (say, Marseille/Schalke). The 5 winners will be in GL.

Difference between the champions and the runners-up for rank 7-12 countries will become immense.

YKPAIHA might have seen two teams in GL for the last time.
Ok now it makes perfect sense to me, thanks. I like the current way much better...damn!
 

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Although they will be seeded for the 3rd Qualifying Round, their continual choking in ECL Group competitions of going on further into the spring games (they did exit 2 seasons ago into the UEFA Cup and did show some pride) that the team core players need to be molded and play together more than just 1/2 a season. Turnover has to be stopped.
True. :smileani: At least, good news are that the moment when it became clear that Benfica is thrown out of Champions League for the coming season guaranteed Shaxtar seeding in the last qualifying rould. :howler:
 

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Tiraspol or bust for Tavriya

'Crimean Wayne Rooney' Volodymyr Gomenyuk says UEFA Intertoto Cup success is vital for "our club and our city" in SC Tavriya Simferopol's 50th anniversary year.

Back in Europe
The first Ukrainian champions after independence in 1992, and the only side other than FC Shakhtar Donetsk and FC Dynamo Kyiv ever to take the Premier League title, Crimean titans Tavriya have not been a significant presence in Europe in recent years. But a fifth-placed finish last season put them back into the fray via the UEFA Intertoto Cup for the first time since losing to Paris Saint-Germain in 2001, and as they kick off their second round tie at Moldova's FC Tiraspol on Saturday, they are determined to make their chance count.
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Ukraine stars
Formed in 1958 as FC Avanhard Simferopol, Tavriya have nurtured a number of top Ukrainian players, and their current crop includes two internationals, midfielder Denis Golaydo and Gomenyuk, whose 14 goals last season led to him being compared to Rooney. The 25-year-old is ready for European action, saying: "We understand how important is to prove ourselves at this level. It's a completely different experience, a different level of motivation, so we will try to show our worth. We understand how important it is for our club and our city."

Fomenko challenge
In order to reach their goal, the second qualifying round of the UEFA Cup, Tavriya must overcome first Tiraspol and then France's Stade Rennais FC, something which will demand a tremendous performance. Coach Mykhailo Fomenko, a defender for FC Dynamo Kyiv as they won the 1975 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and the UEFA Super Cup, has overseen a major boost in the club's form but knows the next step is a huge one. "Tavriya must improve and try to reach the next level," he said. "We are trying to make our guys play every match to their maximum, regardless of the opponent, otherwise it's easy to slip up."

Encouraging results
Tavriya will be hoping the same attack-minded game that served them so well in Ukraine last season will prove equally effective in Europe. Not the sturdiest side in defence, they boast a great attacking line with Gomenyuk lining up alongside Nigerian Lucky Idahor, who played in the UEFA Champions League with Dynamo. Recent friendly wins against Slovenia's NK IB Ljubljana (1-0), Russia's FC Krylya Sovetov Samara (3-1), Austrian giants FC Salzburg (3-2) and Romania's AFC Unirea Valahorum Urziceni (2-1) promise much, but competitive results are what matters for Fomenko. "Our coach is a totally goal-oriented person," said Gomenyuk.

"Crimean Wayne Rooney".:dielaugh:
 

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Did they just call him Crimean Wayne Rooney in a uefa.com article? :howler: How about Denis Golaido aka Crimean Wesley Sneijder
 

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Fc Tiraspol-Tavria 0-0

Well the Rooney and Snejder ukes didn't do too much today.....tirsapol is moldova fourth best team.
 

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Fc Tiraspol-Tavria 0-0

Well the Rooney and Snejder ukes didn't do too much today.....tirsapol is moldova fourth best team.
I would hardly consider Tavrija in the upper echolon of YKPAIHIAH football.

Last season they had more goals scored against them than they scored themselves and they were 12 points behind Dnipro for their 5th place final position in the standings.

Given that it was their first game of the season, I reckon they will pass thru into the next round now that they return back home for the second leg.
 

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Yeah,Tavria should beat Tiraspol at home.
 
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