[Josué]

Fernando Torres means far, far too much to Athletic for them to sell him. To the best of my recollection, they've turned down three huge offers for him in the last two seasons.

Everybody knows Torres is an absolutely phenomenal striker, but what separates him from alot of players is his leadership. He is a cornerstone for Athletic Madrid, and the players rely heavily on him to lead the club both on the pitch and off of it. Torres hates to lose, as you can tell by his cheeks turning rosey-red and the grimace on his face when things are going poorly.

Hell of a competitor, hell of a talent, hell of a leader... any team that could have the opportunity to get Torres would be huge winners. Unfortunately, Torres himself has cut up several big clubs(including Real Madrid, Inter Milan and Bayern Munich), and has declared his admiration and love for Athletic Madrid.

 

[Josué]

Yet, Atletico have not yet sold him because he is just like Adriano to Inter. Without him they would be out of the Primera. And yes, probably the best Spaniard out there with Reyes.

Vicente and Xavi blow both of Reyes and Torres out of the water, completely. They blow Xabi Alonso and Joaquin out of the water, too, but not so much Joaquin.

Xavi and Vicente are in another class altogether.

When you look on paper, Spain should have one of the best midfields in the world with Vicente, Xavi, Alonso, Luque, Albelda, Baraja, Iniesta, etc.

 

[Josué]

I tend to disagree Figolover.
I have seen the players you talk about and I agree that Xabi is a great player, yet I was talking more about the attacking players. Yes Xabi is good, but I think that Reyes is a bit better since he proved himself not only in Spain with Sevilla but also in England with Arsenal. Torres, I saw him play and I can say that he is class, yet Jose Mari and Javi Moreno were great in Spain too and look how they did when they moved to another championship (Italy), total flukes.

Vicente is good, but I do not regard him as world class personally. Same with Joaquin and Luque. They seem to be the typical Spaniards who when going into another champ. would totally suck. Take Farinos, Mendieta, etc. as an example.

I won't attack your post, as it's your opinion and you're rightfully allowed to voice it.

However, saying that Vicente is not world-class is wrong.

I challenge you to find any better left-winger in the world right now.