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i would like to know the player that you suggest as the best young talent in brazil because i have heard so many names who are said to be great that i'm beginning to loose focus.
 

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I guess Robinho and Dagoberto are no more talents but stars. So i would vote Jadson of Atletico Paranaense...the discovery of the 2004 Brasileirao.
 

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What type of player is he? (For those not lucky enough to watch.)
 

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From Bordon is gone´s
eminent and funny description of
Top 10 Brasileiro 2004 playmakers:

JADSON (Atletico Paranaense): A free kick specialist, with a very
direct and simple game, JADSON is perhaps the best revelation of this
Brasileiro, as the organizer of Atletico Paranaense's high scoring
attack. For the simplicity of game, body type and effectiveness, the
boy reminds me of Zico, and yes, I have already covered myself with
eggs, so I will shut up.
 

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Kahe was great,what happaned to him?
Kahe was a 9 day wonder. He couldn't keep his consistency. Ricardinho took over and was also a hit but there are question marks of his consistency in fron of goal.
Conclusion:If Palmeiras is serious about the Copa libertadores, they would need at least a quality striker up-front.

In the case of Jadson,I think Dribble&Trix answered that part. Another star at the just ended Brasileirao is Grafite(after the arrival of Emerson Leao).It is hard to believe how great he improved in Sao Paulo...i guess the shadow of Luis Fabigol had haunted him for a long time.

The most useless striker(2004) was William(santos Fc).u cannot trust him to score even if he is alone infront of an empty post.
 

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I vote for Jadson. he is just wonderful player , at least IMHO

I had the pleasure to see him a couple of time when ESPN gave the game, it was delightful to se Ath. Pr and especially him
 

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Yes i think Jadson, Robinho and Dagoberto are our best young talents!!!!
 

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But of course, we must remember that the most promising players don't always become all they can be... some stars flicker brightly for a while and then fade (I hope it doesn't happen with any of the players mentioned, but sadly it does happen). What makes a player like Juninho keep growing and shining even brighter, while players like Ramon and Arilson stop at a certain stage of quality and stay there? In some cases physical problems get in the way and stop the player from reaching his full potential... sometimes the player just has sh!t for brains and screws his own career (Valber being the most extreme case of this in the past twenty years). Potential is good but not enough. So maybe our margin of error would be smaller if we included other talented youngsters in the list of 'best young talents'.

So there are Jadson, Robinho and Dagoberto, of course... but there's also Adriano from Coritiba, a very interesting leftback (although he'd probably be a winger for European standards). And Claudio Pitbull from Gremio, why not? He's not a 100% confirmed talent yet, but the potential is obviously there. And there are also Rodrigo Tabata, Fernandinho... it's very hard to predict which players will reach their full potential, and which ones won't.
 

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What Garrincha said its true. Ramon played great for Bahia and later for Vitoria when he was young. I thought he was going to become one of the best players in Brasil. He become a very good player, but could not make the transition into greatness.
 

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And what about the sub 20 NT ? Are there any real talents or some of them was not liberated by their teams and the others stayed to act in the Copinha?

It is strange that both tournaments interfere with each other, or it is just another Argie trick to take another South american title as they can not take a world one?
 

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Yes, it's another trick of big, bad Argentina!! That is why we won 3 out of the last 5 Sub-20 WORLD CUPS!! :rolleyes:

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And what about the sub 20 NT ? Are there any real talents or some of them was not liberated by their teams and the others stayed to act in the Copinha?

It is strange that both tournaments interfere with each other, or it is just another Argie trick to take another South american title as they can not take a world one?
 

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LUZ13 said:
And what about the sub 20 NT ? Are there any real talents or some of them was not liberated by their teams and the others stayed to act in the Copinha?

It is strange that both tournaments interfere with each other, or it is just another Argie trick to take another South american title as they can not take a world one?
Bwahahaha!

And you say 'ignorance' is your middle name?
 

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LUZ darling your obssession with us is becoming hillarious...anyway this Cup has become some sort of an scout camp for Euro big boys to catch the new big thing, so I guess every club in SA will allow their players to go...
 

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Fangio said:
...anyway this Cup has become some sort of an scout camp for Euro big boys to catch the new big thing, so I guess every club in SA will allow their players to go...
Am I the only one who finds this a depressing thought?
 

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South American Youth Championship 2005

which brazilian player do you think will set this tournament on fire.
 

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In Brasileiro this year I would say( a bit catagorized in groups)
Robinho
Jadson and Dagoberto
Fernandinho,Renato (both in U20)
Pitbul,Obina

Among the really young one´s I would mention
Jo and Marcelinho

And of course there´s loads of more talents in Brasil
 

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Am I the only one who finds this a depressing thought?
Nope, specially when there still big differences in the style of playing, because mostly are negociaods, and if a Kaka, Aimar appears well better, and maily because I want them to have their careers here, and then when mature, to go and if they want make a money dif in Europe, the path of glory for few, is made with the bodies of many really talented SA players just wasted miles away from their homeland, at their adolescense, and many never recovered from such experiences...
 
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