Which country produces the best players?

nasty nick said:

What country produces the best players? This is not in 2002, this is of all time.

In Europe it's either France or Italy i think but in the whole world i would go for Brazil/Argentina. There are almost Argies and Brazilians in Every european league and they have been producing some of the best players for decades. Even in the 30's there were Argies in Italy.

Even some players who didn't make the first league in the 2 countries are playing in Europe. So they are really great producers of good players

1. Brazil / Argentina

I just can't chose one of them....

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jrzi said:

Were you born yesterday, or are you striving to convince! In both cases, u better back up your conjecture of the Brazilians superiority. Oh, how I’m sick of this pointless dispute. I’ll make some effort and I’ll make it short.

You were asking where were the Argentineans back in the 50s, 60s. I tell u buddy they were all over Europe, wining titles with their clubs, making history. Now where were the Brazilians, Did they make the same impact in Europe. What about Di Stefano, was there a brazilian player who had the same impact in Europe. How about Omar Sivori, who in Argentina formed with Maschio and Angelillo(Intermilan) the “Trio de la Muerte” played few games with national team, won Copa America before emigrating to Europe to became one of the best players in Juventus history. The trio mentioned never played a world cup with Argentina. Now, how much impact in European football the Brazilians made then.

What about the 30s, Argentina made it to the Olympic and world cup final in1928 & 1930 respectively, send their amateur team (you can’t rate them, since the professionals were left in Argentina) to the next world cup. At the same moment in time Italy (the champion) played with four Argentineans: Orsi, Monti, Guaita, and Demaria.

40s & 50s were the golden age of Argentinean football, not the 90s, not now. Sadly & unfortunately they never had the opportunity to showcase their talents & skills in the World Cups, for different reasons.

If this thread is about Bra VS Arg. the question then, next to the world Cup titles what did Brazil accomplish more than Argentina in Football? Whether at club or national team level?!! Argentinean clubs won more Libertadores cup titles, especially at the time when the best Argentinean players migrate to Europe while the best Brazilians played with their local clubs. Argentina won more Copa America (at times when its matters).
Vs. Brazil, Argentina won 33 times in most cases when their best players had left to Europe, while Brazil won 31. Argentina had the better record when it comes to winning in the rivals territory as well….now who is really better? A tournament team (teams) or a team (teams) that won more international titles!

I would like to finish this argument with a note: History credit Argentina and Uruguay for teaching the world the style of football most teams are playing right now, more ball control skills and possession. After the dazzling show of football both countries illustrate to the Europeans in 1928 Olympic final, the correspondent of the English Daily Express wrote “There is no team in my country that could put on a show as great as the one Uruguay and Argentina have” . Few years later, Italy; among other countries acknowledging the technical superiority of the players from the former mentioned South American nations, include in their team neutralize players from both countries to win their first world Cup….where were the Brazilians?

There you have it my friend; a nation of 35 million inhabitants beat the one with 5 times their population. Argentineans made more impact, won more titles, not only in 50s & 60s but also 30s, 40s, 70s, 80s…. where were the Brazilians?

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