What to do in the summer?

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Blaz

Discussion Starter · May 18, 2008

Well, now that where safe and stuff. Who do you want to keep, buy etc. Will we keep Villa, Silva, Joaquin? etc. Will Banega go? etc. All the crap for this vital summer can go here.

You can merge this shit with other thread if you want.

Now that are Real Zaragoza relegated, i want to raid there team even though where cheap fcuks.

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Nabz

· #81 · May 20, 2008

I don't want to sign anyone to replace him, he's our above average utility player

vcf-rules

· #82 · May 20, 2008

good answer

Nabz

· #83 · May 20, 2008

NiCe WaY tO INcReaSe yOuR PoST coUnT

Los Che Forever

· #84 · May 20, 2008

Dear god, leave Silva alone.

He's a good player!!!

Blaz

Discussion Starter · #85 · May 21, 2008

Correct and his a better player then Joaquin...

Mestalla

· #86 · May 21, 2008 (Edited)

del Horno will not continue at Athletic, even the Basques don't want his ass :dielaugh:

I'd call him back because there is no way a team would buy del Horny for 3 Million Euros (his buyout clause). He can't possibly be worse that Caneira, no one is (what the fcuk was Quique thinking :wth: :howler

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Nabz

· #87 · May 26, 2008 (Edited)

--------------------------------Timo/Asenjo
Zabaleta/Pedro Lopez-Albiol/Alexis-New CB/Marchena-Monreal/Moretti

------------Zapater/Maduro------------Banega/Baraja
---------------------------Manelele/Silva

Joaquin/Pablo--------------------------------------Mata/Vicente
----------------------Villa/Morientes

Note: I would sign Sergio Garcia if we get a good offer for Joaquin (20m euros) or if he's available for cheap (less than 10m euros), then I'd sell el Moro.
Keep on the subs Edu in case he agrees to take a paycut.

Silva can cover more than 4 positions so he's a keeper (Mestalla, keeper as in keep him not GK

p).

In:
Asenjo - 3m euros with a player
Zabaleta - 8m euros
Pedro Lopez - 3 m euros
Monreal - 10m euros
Zapater - 10m euros

34 m euros

Out:
Sunny - Loan
Aaron - Loan
Albelda - 0
Angulo - 0
Canizares - 0
Caneira - 3m euros
Helguera - 2m euros
Zigic - 9m euros
Arizmendi - 4m euros
Miguel - 13m euros
Del horno - 3m euros
Regueiro - 2m euros
Sisi - 4m euros
Pallardo - Player exchange
Gavilan - 5 m euros

Out - 45m euros

And if we consider selling Joaquin for Sergio Garcia...

In - 34m euros + 12m euros = 46m euros
Out - 45m euros + 18m euros = 63m euros

That leaves about 15m euros for a CB signing, in case our objective is to stay close to 0 in terms of losses.
Coloccini?

:thumbsup:

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Los Che Forever

· #88 · May 27, 2008

I like it, but who's Pedro Lopez?! Not that reject from years back?

Overall nice depth there and stuff like that, but worried about the lack of strikers though, only 2, could be troublesome.

Blaz

Discussion Starter · #89 · May 27, 2008

Yeah, good post. Manelele can't play that role though. I'd love van der Vaart there, in that role that Silva has been playing which is almost a striker on occasions. God i wish we where financially stable.

Los Che Forever

· #90 · May 27, 2008

I actually hope we play 4-2-3-1, i don't like the 4-3-3, we just don't have the right players in the right places.

Nabz

· #91 · May 27, 2008

If you're worried about strikers then we should either let go of Morientes and sign someone who's not injured 10 months a year, or sell Joaquin to make room for Sergio Garcia (you'd suicide yourself if that happens though).

Manelele is useless, I can't see him fit into any of those positions

How about selling him for 15m euros and Silva for 25, then signing VdV for like 20m euros and keep some random guy like Hugo Vagina

?

We'll have even more money then for a CB signing...

Blaz

Discussion Starter · #92 · May 27, 2008

LCF said:
I actually hope we play 4-2-3-1, i don't like the 4-3-3, we just don't have the right players in the right places.

I don't know, what's the difference between that and a 4-3-3? It's even more defensive and would leave Villa even more stranded...

VCF said:
Manelele is useless, I can't see him fit into any of those positions

How about selling him for 15m euros and Silva for 25, then signing VdV for like 20m euros and keep some random guy like Hugo Vagina?

We'll have even more money then for a CB signing...

I'd be happy with that, if it means getting van der Vaart..But still, it hurts letting go of a Valencianista like Silva, that ALWAYS gives 100%

Nabz

· #93 · May 27, 2008

You really are a weird fcuker

Silva our wonderkid?
That must be a joke

And he rarely gives 100%, both you and I know he can do so much better.

vcf-rules

· #94 · May 27, 2008

Blaž said:
I don't know, what's the difference between that and a 4-3-3? It's even more defensive and would leave Villa even more stranded...

I'd be happy with that, if it means getting van der Vaart..But still, it hurts letting go of a Valencianista like Silva, that ALWAYS gives 100%

But villa wont be here next year mate. Hes gotta be sold

Blaz

Discussion Starter · #95 · May 27, 2008

ValenciaCdeF said:
You really are a weird fcuker

Silva our wonderkid?
That must be a joke
And he rarely gives 100%, both you and I know he can do so much better.

Well, bar Juan Mata i would think so. Well, Barca are willing to offer 20-25m euros for him, they must see 'great potential' in him, right? He will be a star mate, yes his inconsistent but there are not many his age that aren't.

It's abit harsh to be questioning a players heart, whether he gives 100% or not. You could question so many players this season whether they give 100%, the whole team has looked down bar Villa.

Blaz

Discussion Starter · #96 · May 27, 2008

vcf-rules said:
But villa wont be here next year mate. Hes gotta be sold

Well if we can get 25m euros for Silva and more, which is possible, you never know. We don't know the exact finances of the club.

PR316

· #97 · May 27, 2008 (Edited)

vcf-rules said:
But villa wont be here next year mate. Hes gotta be sold

We don't know that for sure. Apparentley, no concrete offers have arrived for him and nobody has made any serious moves. Add to that Villa hasn't exactly PUSHED for a move either. And Valencia have been very clear about his price tag. 40 million euros for Villa, and I believe between 30-35 million euros for Silva.

There are no guarantees here. There are younger strikers on the market that teams would pay less than half that 40 million price tag for. If we want to get our precious 40 million euros for his value, then either Drogba or Eto'o would have to march from their respective clubs and even then, nobody might make a move for him. And we sure as well are not going to sell him to just anybody. It'll have to be a big club.

Nabz

· #98 · May 27, 2008

Blaž;6375972 said:
Well, bar Juan Mata i would think so. Well, Barca are willing to offer 20-25m euros for him, they must see 'great potential' in him, right? He will be a star mate, yes his inconsistent but there are not many his age that aren't.

It's abit harsh to be questioning a players heart, whether he gives 100% or not. You could question so many players this season whether they give 100%, the whole team has looked down bar Villa.

so this season is the season you found out Silva will be a star?

Last season was his rise to fame season, not this one.

He will be a star?
So will Mata/Banega/Sunny/Aaron etc. I won't cry if he leaves, neither should you, cause we're at least getting some decent cash (I would be pissed though if he joins cuntelona for under 25m euros)

No it's not harsh to question a players heart. Some players even if they have a shit game you can notice how hard they're trying. There's not once Albiol gave less than 100%, he might not be the best but he always tries his hardest.
Same case with Vicente in the very few games he's played.
Baraja as well.
Marchena might look out of order at times, due to lack of consistency, but when he's in the game he's almost always our best player bar someone named David Villa.

How is it that Silva only shows up for big games? Are you saying he gives 100% vs small teams? I really doubt so, it's much easier to play vs shit teams than against hard ones, in Silva's 'new' position.

Silva playing like shit vs small teams for god knows how many games in a row then showing up vs a big team is not a consistency issue.

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Blaz

Discussion Starter · #99 · May 28, 2008

VCF said:
so this season is the season you found out Silva will be a star?

Last season was his rise to fame season, not this one.

Obviously, last season. In my opinion, watching most of his 100 matches that he has played for our club, it's obvious he will become a super player in the future.

So will Mata/Banega/Sunny/Aaron etc. I won't cry if he leaves, neither should you, cause we're at least getting some decent cash (I would be pissed though if he joins cuntelona for under 25m euros)

I'm not going to cry, i was exaggerating that comment, it's never good to sell home grown products and he is one of the best we have, it's only cause where financially insecure otherwise i don't think we would be selling him for along time. It's players like him Mata/Aaron/Sunny that are the future of our club.

No it's not harsh to question a players heart. Some players even if they have a shit game you can notice how hard they're trying. There's not once Albiol gave less than 100%, he might not be the best but he always tries his hardest.
Same case with Vicente in the very few games he's played.
Baraja as well.
Marchena might look out of order at times, due to lack of consistency, but when he's in the game he's almost always our best player bar someone named David Villa.

Either i'm the clueless or you are, to me Silva gives asmuch as he can. As i said before, just cause he doesn't have the best game doesn't mean he isn't giving it his all.

How is it that Silva only shows up for big games? Are you saying he gives 100% vs small teams? I really doubt so, it's much easier to play vs shit teams than against hard ones, in Silva's 'new' position.

Silva playing like shit vs small teams for god knows how many games in a row then showing up vs a big team is not a consistency issue.

Bro, it's consistency. The whole team has been horrible this season against the small teams and you pin point, Silva. Silva is not a player yet to lift the team when the going gets tough (Only Villa), when Silva plays well, most of the team do too...

MaLki14

· #100 · May 29, 2008

what to do in summer? watch euros?

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