[Blaz]

Your benching Joaquín

LB - We could get Navarro/Felipe/Mané (Be expensive but)
CB - I don't have a clue.
CM - Carlos Martins would be a good option since where cheap fcuks.

 

[Nabz]

I never said Joaquin is the best player in the world
He's been better than no show Silva.

Not Carlos Martins. Watch our stupid board think Silva is good enough for that position while they're wanking on his goal vs Chelsea.

 

[Blaz]

Can't be fcuked getting into Joaquín vs Silva. But i am stumped, why you can't see that Silva > Joaquín.

 

[Nabz]

maybe cause it's bullshit

 

[vcf-rules]

lol, thats a good answer

 

[Blaz]

Fair enough.

 

[vcf-rules]

joaquin is a legend as well, so it matters little in my book. The only thing i would say is that siva is still very young and can improve, i dont believe that weve seen the best of him yet

 

[Nabz]

And we've also not seen the best of Joaquin yet.

I'd hate to sell him now, just give him one more season...

btw, Joaquin is no legend. There's only 1 legend, Vicenteroud:.

 

[vcf-rules]

vicente is a valencia legend, but joaquin is also a legend

 

[Blaz]

True, well, it's obvious we aren't playing to Joaquín's strength's at all... Güiza/Diego Milito would be prefect for him to have something to work with etc...

 

[vcf-rules]

i would really like guiza to come, but it depends if barca are serious about him, which they may not be

 

[Blaz]

Do Barça really need Güiza?

As good as Pichichi Güiza has been this season, it would be a risk by Guardiola to put all the focus on him (assuming they buy him for a starter). Let's face it, his no Eto'o and if they don't want to go trophy-less again this season, they need to buy top-top quality to challenge an already very good Real Madrid, who will only get stronger in the summer.

 

[vcf-rules]

well i doubt we would be the onlt interested party to be honest. Our lack of funds could be the problem, although they may want to keep narrvo, which could put us in the driving seat

 

[Blaz]

He will leave Mallorca, 100%, while his hot (Plus no Europe for them).

I don't think he will go aboard.

Real Madrid - No.
Barcelona - Possibly, if they really want him, they will probably get him.
Villarreal - Nope.
Atlético Madrid - Nah.

 

[vcf-rules]

he's a good player but their fee is way to high for us to buy him. Like i said using other players in the deal might be the way forward

 

[Mestalla]

The funny thing is, ValenciaCdef voted for Silva as the best midfielder in La Liga last season and was literally kissing his butt all last season long p

http://www.xtratime.org/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=5906

Tell me man, at 21 or whatever his age is, don't you think he can come back to his best? :wth: It's been one season where the whole team sucked but why pick only on him? Joaquin had a massive dip in form but would you contemplate selling him? No because you know what he is capable of, as you know what Silva is capable of.

We need to be patient he's done very well under anyone but Koeman. We've seen what he did under Quique, Aragones and Voro, so have some faith. It's ok to critisize from time to time but bashing and hating on one of our own players will make you go nuts (not that you aren't already) p

And fcuk yeah Joaquin is a legend, enough with this Silva vs Ximo thing, as Valencianistas we need to love them bastards all equally roud:

 

[Nabz]

He was good last season though

And in case you didn't notice, check my post.
The first thing I wrote was: 'Where is Joaquin?'
Take this:finger:

And basically I'd vote for any Valencia player. Like Juanma Mata/Banega etc.

Maybe it's cause he tries the least^^, I'm not sure but that might actually be the reason

It pisses off seeing him still get rated. I mean Albiol has had a bad season and practically all of you think he's just ok, but Silva is still the best player in the world.

Wake up.

PS: Really nice of you to dig up old shit. Like vcf-rules once wrote, we overrated our team big time last season.
At least I'm not doing so anymore until the performances prove so...

 

[Mestalla]

PS: Really nice of you to dig up old shit.

Well you did it with that Guiza quote so this was payback

I don't think everyone in here is overating Silva this season, we all know this is not the best he can give and despite everything he has very good stats this season considering the season we had and is only inferior to Villa and Mata in that department.

He deserves critizism as do all the rest of the team, and I'm sure we have all critizised Albiol, Alexis and co, but bashing any of our players is a bit too much. It's when these muppets are down they need our support, not root for them when they play well and then say fcuk 'em when they lose form p

Overated or not, we need all off Silva, Joaquin, Miguel, Albiol, Villa and co. to be back where we once were and I have a feeling we won't understand the talent we have until the well runs dry :depress:

 

[Nabz]

Huh?

You didn't say anything wrong bout Guiza, you just wrote we're after him for 4 m euros.

I don't think everyone in here is overating Silva this season, we all know this is not the best he can give and despite everything he has very good stats this season considering the season we had and is only inferior to Villa and Mata in that department.

Very good stats:howler:?
He practically takes every corner (Villa used to), and plays every ****ing game. He's bound to get numbers.

And football isn't about numbers, cause if so then Eto'o would be considered a better striker than Villa (take that Osman, I know you're reading).

I'm sure we have all critizised Albiol, Alexis and co, but bashing any of our players is a bit too much.

SILVA NEVER GETS CRITICIZED.

 

[Mestalla]

You didn't say anything wrong bout Guiza, you just wrote we're after him for 4 m euros.

Yes I did, I said I preferred Nerry Castillo who was coming off an incredible Copa America or some Latin cup to Guiza, which was quite bad in hindsight, but to be fair a lot of people agreed back then.

Very good stats?
He practically takes every corner (Villa used to), and plays every ****ing game. He's bound to get numbers.

He has made at least 8 or 9 assists and scored 8 goals. Not bad for a midfielder who is said to be having his worst season ever. And tell me how many of those assists came from corners? On top of my head, I can only remember that Alexis goal in the Copa final.

He doesn't take the corners alone too as Mata and Joaquin also share the responsibility.

And football isn't about numbers, cause if so then Eto'o would be considered a better striker than Villa (take that Osman, I know you're reading).

I read somewhere (can't remember if it was Las Pro or Superdeporte) that after his Levante hattrick, David Villa is the best striker in La Liga if you combine his stats for the last three seasons, so stats prove David is better when the last three season's stats are concerned. Check 'em out for yourself

SILVA NEVER GETS CRITICIZED.

Yes he does, I personally have said a million times he's not having the best of seasons. Maybe what you mean is he NEVER GETS CONSTANTLY BASHED and he doesn't deserve to either, no player does as it doesn't help anything. If you're going to do it, you should at least be fair and do the same to Joaquin who is having a worse season, but that would be just wrong.